News Round Up 2019

[AMusicLifeForMe]

Happy 1st Birthday to Toy Story Land at Disney’s Hollywood Studios!

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Well Disneyland is seeing it’s lowest summer crowds in some time.

And I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions just yet. Thus my statement that the Internet loves to get ahead of itself.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Random question is Bombardier when they build these trains doing all the operations in the U.S. or is it overseas or some of it overseas? I know they've not been known to get things done on time but I'm fuzzy on that aspect of knowledge.

 

[jknezek]

Random question is Bombardier when they build these trains doing all the operations in the U.S. or is it overseas or some of it overseas? I know they've not been known to get things done on time but I'm fuzzy on that aspect of knowledge.

Bombardier is a Canadian company if that is what you are asking. Something of a conglomerate. Kind of like a Canadian GE. Big industry stuff. They are notorious for missed deadlines and troubled first stage deliveries on transport projects. But there are only so many large transport companies around, so options are limited. Especially for Disney's monorail needs.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Bombardier is a Canadian company if that is what you are asking. Something of a conglomerate. Kind of like a Canadian GE. Big industry stuff. They are notorious for missed deadlines and troubled first stage deliveries on transport projects. But there are only so many large transport companies around, so options are limited. Especially for Disney's monorail needs.

Thanks for the information. I knew they weren't a U.S. company. I think I worded my prior question poorly.

I looked and their transportation division is headquartered in Berlin, Germany. So then I wondered where are they building the monorails (and other transportation vehicles they been commisioned to use for other places) and where are they getting their materials from.

I guess I was using information on how my husband's company gets parts for their power plants and trying to see if it related to Bombardier's reputation.

For my husband's company he was recently telling me of a seemingly simple part of a power plant that is something like $6,500 if purchased from their normal supplier in China (I believe that's the country) however the lead time is on average 16 weeks from order to delivery and includes the commission of the part and transportation of the part (via barge) and time spent in Customs, etc. On the flip side they could have a full U.S. based company that could make the part in a tiny fraction of that time (even if excluding transportation via barge and Customs time) but at a cost of $20,000 for the same part. If they plan things like they do they will go with a longer lead time most of the time for a lower cost. In this case they misplaced the part and were on the verge of having to spend $$$ to get a replacement part (they found the part like 5mins after hearing the cost for a replacement part because they don't have 16 weeks to get that part in).

But maybe from your information it sounds like as large of a company as they are they've got time management issues lol.

**And probably way more in-depth that I originally thought I would be **

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Happy 1st Birthday to Toy Story Land at Disney’s Hollywood Studios!

Also Happy 45th Anniversary to the Hoop Dee Doo Revue!

 

[IloveDisney77]

Annual Passholders can begin booking Candlelight Processional dining packages on July 2nd.

Also, as an fyi, it appears DVC Members are able to book on July 2nd as well.

 

[rteetz]

And I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions just yet. Thus my statement that the Internet loves to get ahead of itself.

Disney is surely jumping to conclusions. They wouldn’t have opened up CM block outs or added MSEP back unless they feel they need it.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Disney is surely jumping to conclusions. They wouldn’t have opened up CM block outs or added MSEP back unless they feel they need it.

there is no way to spin it other than that the opening of the land is having a negative impact on the rest of the park as far as crowds. now, who know long term but clearly people are staying away - why, most likely a variety of reasons.

Long term, I still think adding an amazing land will increase crowds and profits, but in the short term, whether it was the hype scaring people away, the black out of AP holders, or what, but the rest of the park is pretty darn empty by Disney standards

 

[TheMaxRebo]

NEWS

New merchandise celebrating the "live action" Lion King at Animal Kingdom (paging @AMusicLifeForMe)

https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...ys-the-lion-king-available-at-animal-kingdom/

 

[jknezek]

there is no way to spin it other than that the opening of the land is having a negative impact on the rest of the park as far as crowds. now, who know long term but clearly people are staying away - why, most likely a variety of reasons.

Long term, I still think adding an amazing land will increase crowds and profits, but in the short term, whether it was the hype scaring people away, the black out of AP holders, or what, but the rest of the park is pretty darn empty by Disney standards

I'll tell you what I've heard from people around me. The type of people who go to Disney every year or every other year. They all said they wouldn't go until both rides are open. The reason? It costs too much. Now these are WDW folks, not DLR, but I'm guessing a lot of the problem is the same reason. It costs so much to go to Disney that if you aren't AP holders, you wait until everything new is open that is promised to open shortly.

I think Disney's problem at DLR is exactly this. The people that would come and make 8-10 hour lines and make it look full and impressive are exactly the people who are blocked out. If you are doing your once a year or once every couple year trip, just wait a few more months and go when it is all open.

Disney is pricing themselves out of the repeat visitors except the local APs. If you restrict them as severely as DLR has done this summer, there just aren't enough people willing to pay the exorbitant costs to go twice. I expect WDW will have a similar issue, though it won't be as apparent. The lead time on a WDW trip is longer, there is so much more to do between the 4 parks that people aren't coming just for the newest thing, but I expect they won't get the massive double bump they were expecting from essentially 2 grand openings.

They miscalculated and now they are scrambling.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I'll tell you what I've heard from people around me. The type of people who go to Disney every year or every other year. They all said they wouldn't go until both rides are open. The reason? It costs too much. Now these are WDW folks, not DLR, but I'm guessing a lot of the problem is the same reason. It costs so much to go to Disney that if you aren't AP holders, you wait until everything new is open that is promised to open shortly.

I think Disney's problem at DLR is exactly this. The people that would come and make 8-10 hour lines and make it look full and impressive are exactly the people who are blocked out. If you are doing your once a year or once every couple year trip, just wait a few more months and go when it is all open.

Disney is pricing themselves out of the repeat visitors except the local APs. If you restrict them as severely as DLR has done this summer, there just aren't enough people willing to pay the exorbitant costs to go twice. I expect WDW will have a similar issue, though it won't be as apparent. The lead time on a WDW trip is longer, there is so much more to do between the 4 parks that people aren't coming just for the newest thing, but I expect they won't get the massive double bump they were expecting from essentially 2 grand openings.

They miscalculated and now they are scrambling.

I think that is a huge part of it. also, the people that would come for opening day for the land as is, I bet 90% of them figured out a way to be there for one of the reservation periods (I mean, if you will pay the $ for a trip to CA for the land, if you have to pay a bit more to get a HLR hotel room to get a reservation, I would think you would do that) - and if you did a reservation period or two, are you going nuts to be there for the regular opening of the land?

So you have your hard core fan base for the LAND that has already seen it

Then your Hard Core local DISNEY fan base that is largely blacked out

Then your families that go once every year or ever few years are likely to both a) wait for the land to be fully open at one of the coasts and b) avoid the "craziness" of opening day/week (the later holding true for people that aren't concerned with GE, but didn't make plans to go to DLR b/c they thought the crowds would be crazy)

So that is combined a huge group of people that *would* be there, that now aren't for various reasons

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

NEWS

New merchandise celebrating the "live action" Lion King at Animal Kingdom (paging @AMusicLifeForMe)

https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...ys-the-lion-king-available-at-animal-kingdom/

Why does everyone just assume I’m going to buy everything Lion King related? Oh wait...

 

[TheMaxRebo]

NEWS

https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...six-new-burgers-and-sandwiches-to-their-menu/


Some of them sound pretty good, and cute that they have Disney inspired names ... but are more burgers options really needed?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Happy Canada Day!!!

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

NEWS

https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...six-new-burgers-and-sandwiches-to-their-menu/


Some of them sound pretty good, and cute that they have Disney inspired names ... but are more burgers options really needed?

Not really since it is a short walk from there to D-Luxe Burger!

 

[dolewhipdreams]

Why does everyone just assume I’m going to buy everything Lion King related? Oh wait...

I assumed you already had it all

 

[rteetz]

News

https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories/walt-disney-world-pin-releases-for-july-2019/

 

[rteetz]

News

https://www.laughingplace.com/w/new...c-limited-series-out-there-with-jack-randall/

 

[hertamaniac]

Disney is pricing themselves out of the repeat visitors except the local APs.

The lead time on a WDW trip is longer, there is so much more to do between the 4 parks that people aren't coming just for the newest thing, but I expect they won't get the massive double bump they were expecting from essentially 2 grand openings.

They miscalculated and now they are scrambling.

I think you are 100% correct on the RotR delay and the double bump scenario.

As a local WDW AP (not current), we aren't just waiting for RotR, but want to put us on a calendar window when MMRR is online and other attractions before a renewal.