News Round Up 2018

[Roxyfire]

I know of absolutely no one who goes to Starbucks and reuses anything when they order coffee or a fancier drink. It simply is thrown away unless they have it at home and can recycle it should they choose to do so and I would imagine that the majority of people who purchase things from Starbucks are the same way. In order for it to be a more meaningful way you'd have to have a significant population of people who purchase items from Starbucks be exactly like you in that they actually wash the plastic cup and now the new plastic lid and reuse it. Otherwise it's just more plastic than before being thrown away. Most people I know are concerned about BPA and leaching of chemicals from the plastic though that is usually from multiple reuses.

I'm not talking about how easy it is to recycle, I live in a city that has for the last 4 years I believe had the most percentage of waste diverted from the landfill and instead recycled throughout our County and that's with recycling only picked up every other week as opposed to every week. I recycle quite a lot. But I'm being realistic about other people's personal habits at large not at an individual level and especially when away from home. At home I know I can easily put qualifying plastics in my recyling bin. Out and about I either need to keep the item to take home and recycle at home (which I do for water bottles, aluminum cans, etc when I feasibly can) or hope that they have a recycling bin handy wherever I'm at when I'm done drinking my beverage and that's def. not the case everywhere.

Anywho my initial point was about removing something in favor of something worse insomuch about the amount of plastic used but we'll get back to the News

I know you might not mean it but you come off incredibly hostile.

 

[Mome Rath]

The problem with straws isn't just that they are plastic; their shape makes them a hazard to wildlife, and also makes it hard to recycle them. A lid may contain more plastic, but it's shape isn't as dangerous, nor as hard to recycle. I'd like to see actual water bottle filling stations like the ones in Pandora go up all over the parks; filtered and built specifically for bottle refills.

I'm a bit skeptical about the reusable shopping bags, as people aren't going to reuse them down at the parks unless already carrying a backpack or such, and then they aren't really needed anyway.

 

[JETSDAD]

News

New Ears coming to Disney Parks

https://wdwnt.com/2018/07/first-loo...ickey-mouse-club-ears-coming-to-disney-parks/

Those DVC ears are so bad lol

 

[Firebird060]

Honestly the link to that article doesnt actually state any annouced Disney things except the straws. I know disney has been switching to room dispensers for Moderate down to value. Yet the Deluxes still give out the individual shampoo bottles and they started the transition years ago. The bags are still available at the park but not at store, I doubt that will change because they use that for resort delivery.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I know you might not mean it but you come off incredibly hostile.

Um okay.

That wasn't hostile nor incredibily hostile but perhaps you're reading into a tone that wasn't there . In the interest of moving on we'll just chalk it up to agree to disagree on the topic of Starbucks lids

 

[Roxyfire]

Um okay.

That wasn't hostile nor incredibily hostile but perhaps you're reading into a tone that wasn't there . In the interest of moving on we'll just chalk it up to agree to disagree on the topic of Starbucks lids

Yes I'd love to move on, but I think with it being in text I see it as a harsher reply when I'm merely just trying to share (not spare, typo) a different perspective. Starbucks posted more about the initiative on their website, and as a chronic reuser, I found it fascinating and saw positive implications for not only disney parks but our consumer society as a whole. You can probably google it to learn more, or not, up to you.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Yes I'd love to move on, but I think with it being in text I see it as a harsher reply when I'm merely just trying to share (not spare, typo) a different perspective. Starbucks posted more about the initiative on their website, and as a chronic reuser, I found it fascinating and saw positive implications for not only disney parks but our consumer society as a whole. You can probably google it to learn more, or not, up to you.

Roxy, I think you misinterpreted my comments to mean something about you personally but that was not what I actually said. I admire your approach but I am realistic in understanding that your approach is the outlier not the norm..at least yet. But anywho at this point let's just move on to some more News

 

[Phicinfan]

News

New Ears coming to Disney Parks

https://wdwnt.com/2018/07/first-loo...ickey-mouse-club-ears-coming-to-disney-parks/

LOVE the mickey mouse club hat. My youngest has the train conductor's hat with ears from DL, and I love that look with ears on the hat.

 

[Roxyfire]

Roxy, I think you misinterpreted my comments to mean something about you personally but that was not what I actually said. I admire your approach but I am realistic in understanding that your approach is the outlier not the norm..at least yet. But anywho at this point let's just move on to some more News

That's fine, I'm not worried about whether it's popular or common, it's just an option. Basically I just wanna see some refillable mugs in the park is that so much to ask? Geez.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

That's fine, I'm not worried about whether it's popular or common, it's just an option. Basically I just wanna see some refillable mugs in the park is that so much to ask? Geez.

I thought you and I were speaking about Starbucks not Disney parks in our particular conversation but yeah I totally get wanting more options in the Disney Parks as a whole.

 

[Fantasia79]

No chance Disney goes to refillable mugs in parks. Wish they did though

 

[UncleMike101]

At the same time if you're looking to do more for the environment ditching the straw but adding a lid that uses more plastic than the straw makes little sense (speaking about Starbucks).

I'm OK with paper straws because, as mentioned by jlundeen, I grew up with them.
Same for paper bags.
And we reuse Ziploc bags until they develop holes or the zip feature fails.
But to charge the customer exiting the store without a conveyance to carry their items, and then saying it's "for the environment" when it's actually for profit motives, is disingenuous to say the least.
At least the grocery stores in our part of the country who do this, Aldis & Save A Lot, are up front and state that they do it to save money and keep prices down for the customers.
I still have paper WDW bags from the mid 80's that I use to store memorabilia from trips back then and I wasn't charged extra for those bags.as their cost was factored into the price of merchandise, just as it is done today by every single retailer in the country.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

No chance Disney goes to refillable mugs in parks. Wish they did though

I wish they had a collapsible option in addition to the normal option.

We carried around a collapsible (well it folds into itself) BPA free water bottle that had a carabiner clip on it so we could attach it to our park bag. As much as those refillable mugs are a great idea they tend to be fairly bulky (thinking about it comes to being in the actual parks). I almost got a Hydaway collapsible water bottle but my husband got the one we used from a vendor at work.

 

[Roxyfire]

I thought you and I were speaking about Starbucks not Disney parks in our particular conversation but yeah I totally get wanting more options in the Disney Parks as a whole.

I was just using that as a model that things could change over time, as much as I rely on using straws in cold beverages there are other unique options out there that could create sustainable options. I'd be super happy with more of those bottle refill stations and some ice machines but I know people would probably try to fill up their cooler with ice or something like that.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I dont mind the refillable shampoo,etc., but its confusing that at the same time they initiate these things, they partner with Ziploc in Magic Kingdom.

Not to me. But I’ve already beaten that drum.

And perspective is healthy when thinking about impact.

https://www.statista.com/chart/12211/the-countries-polluting-the-oceans-the-most/

I buy them for home too, the bendy ones at that, for like $1 something at Target. If it came down to it we could certainly do that. I'd rather reduce the things I carry but I know a small baggy of them wouldn't take up that much space either.

Not a BAGGY!!!

 

[FoxC63]

My refillable conditioner ran out mid-shower on my last trip. At home I would just pick up the bottle and shake it until I got every drop out of it. That is not an option if it is secured to the wall!

So when you look at the dispenser it doesn't have a window to show how much product is in there?

 

[Tigger's ally]

As someone in the paper industry, I do find the plastic bag discussion quite interesting. Many will remember that when plastic bags were first used many moons ago, they originated not because of cost savings (even though that is why most places use them now) but to be more environmentally conscience to logging and cutting down trees. Since then, and billions of bags later, the fine people on this earth have been educated to the fact that paper is a natural and renewable resource and that paper in landfills breaks down over time as opposed to the plastic. For every tree that a paper company harvests, they plant something like 1.85 trees. And few will know that there are actually more trees in the world today than there were 50 years ago. While the "tree huggers" are generally ridiculed in my profession, I have often thought over a few beers that while they were mostly wrong with their beliefs at that time, their efforts did lead to a more sustainable future. I deal daily with programs like the Program for the Endorsement of Forest Certification (PEFC) and the Sustainable Forestry Initiative (SFI) and have no doubts they would probably not have originated were it not for those "tree huggers" many years ago. Together with learning and teaching, the world has been getting better each and every year with recycling paper products. In the case of paper vs. plastic, it seems we have come full circle in some ways all over a little plastic bag.

Just my 2 cents and the pirate in me wondered why Toilet paper was never changed to plastic? Also, I stopped using straws in fourth grade. Always seemed to get the one with the tiny hole in it somewhere that made me suck air. The fact that my drink of choice is beer now furthers my disdain for straws. And don't get me started about Starbucks. Will go to my grave never having a cup of coffee. Can't get past the smell. Ughhh. Aroma my petutie! Argggghhhh

 

[rteetz]

News

Last Chance to Celebrate Summer Nights at Busch Gardens Tampa Bay!

 

[Disneymom1126]

Ha Ha...I guess since I grew up using them, they don't matter at all to me... We have become so dependent on plastic, it's going to take a LOT of folks changing their mindsets to recover from it. Every time I see that huge garbage mat floating in the ocean, I just get re-charged to try to use less, but sometimes, there are no alternatives. I guess it will take time, but hopefully, the people who create all those plastic products can do more to make them more recyclable...

If they really wanted to encourage reuse and much less trash, they could allow resort refillable mugs to work in all the parks, too.

I think there is generally a movement right now to move away from straws/plastic...its causing all kinds of drama on the parent boards for my daughter's school district because the district is doing away with them this year. The amount of plastic waste that finds its way into our water systems is astounding and honestly, it's going to take big companies like Disney to take a stand about it to change culture around reliance on these products. They are for most people, a convenience and not necessary. For those who need them for medical purposes, there are more sustainable alternatives.

They can do away with lids too - they already do at Animal Kingdom and it works perfectly fine there...sure people complain, but people are going to complain regardless

Now having said that...if Disney wanted to really reduce usage of plastic/waste, they could allow guests to purchase re-usable drink containers that could be refilled at counter service locations...even if you had to pay a smaller fee each time you refilled it, it would be worth it. We also tend to waste a lot of drinks when we are there...the bucket of soda/lemonade you get at the counter service is way more than any one person really needs with a meal. At least with something re-usable, you could take the leftover with you.

 

[rteetz]

News

Partial Road Closure at Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort from July 25 to Aug. 2