New Zealand in October

Excuse the long-winded post that follows. I wrote it in 'Pages' so hopefully it transfers properly to the website.

I honestly think that it would be a shame to rush your drives each day and do very few stops in order to fit them within a nap time. I think it would be missing the point of a NZ road trip. If your DD is like my son was at that age, she will wake most times you stop for a photo, or will only nap for less than an hour anyway. In which case, it really doesn't matter when you drive as no drive is going to be under a few hours. With plenty of photo, meal, and walk stops, most drives will be closer to half a day.
We got around long stretches in the car with our son by stopping often, even if it was just for one minute to stretch our legs and take a photo. We'd point out things for him to look at along the way, and somehow we always managed to avoid any meltdowns.
However, only you know your daughter best, and will know what works best for her. Of course if it's raining hard and you don't plan on doing many stops, then driving through naps times probably would work well. I say raining hard though as we have done many bush walks in light rain. Bring raincoats as NZ forest smells lovely in the rain.

We started doing bush walks with our young one from about the age of 2, and a few things to be aware of is that they generally don't have fences or barriers along the outside of the paths. Some are mostly safe to let your young one run a little bit ahead (e.g Redwood Forests in Rotorua), but in general I recommend keeping your child within arms length. As you are using a carrier, that is that problem solved. But since our big boy was very heavy at that age, we bought one of those harness/leash things so he could walk next to us when DH got tired of carrying him on his shoulders.
Other than unfenced drop-offs and waterways, and the occasional challenging piece of track, the NZ bush is relatively safe for young ones with no dangerous animals or insects. Make sure you look up often and point out the native birds to your DD. Their birdsong is so beautiful and quite unique. There are, however, quite a few sand flies in many parts of NZ bush, particularly Fiordland and the West Coast. Spray your family with bug spray regularly to avoid getting bitten.
Lastly, make sure you carry valuables with you. I've never had a vehicle broken into, but like in all countries around the world, there is always that slight risk.

For the stretch of road between Wanaka and Fox Glacier, I recommend Roaring Billy, Thundercreek Falls, Fantail Falls, and The Blue Pools.
http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-re...otago/wanaka-makarora/haast-pass-short-walks/
The doc website tends to overestimate the length of walks. We are not a fit family, but usually do these walks in about 3/4 of the time stated. It pays to print off a bit of information on each walk so you at least roughly know where they are located and can keep an eye out as you approach. Sign posting is getting better, but it is still easy to drive past some pull offs where the walks are located.
The Blue Pools walk is beautiful if you are lucky to strike the pools at their most brilliant blue. They were greenish while we were there, and I've heard of others who have seen them at a less-than-appealing, brown. It is still worth the walk however for the swing bridge and the pebbled shoreline. My son loved stopping for 15minutes to make towers out of pebbles. Make sure you allow time for these unexpected activities. They always form my most precious memories and are what stop my son from seeing a NZ roadtrip as just a 'long drive'.

In Fox and Franz Josef Glaciers there are short walks at both (under 30 minutes each) which take you to views of the Glaciers. I just can't quite find links to these walks right now. I'll keep looking. I also recommend Peter's Pool walk (it's very easy, but take the bug spray) and Lake Matheson. If you can do the whole lap of the lake, it is very worth it. As previously mentioned walk early morning or late afternoon - whenever the weather is best and most settled. If you try on arrival day, get to the first jetty lookout and there is no reflection, turn around and try again the next morning. Another benefit to walking early is that you beat the noisy bus tourists who don't seem to appreciate the peacefulness of the bush.
http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/tracks-and-walks/west-coast/glaciers/peters-pool-walk/
http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/tracks-and-walks/west-coast/glaciers/lake-matheson-walk/

In Mt Cook I have done the Kea Point walk from the campground. The view of the glacier at the end is quite impressive (I'll try to dig out some pics), but the walk does have a few drop offs. Make sure you carry your DD on the hill parts of this walk. Also look out for Weta (native NZ insect) around and under rocks. DS found a whole family and was fascinated.
http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-re...ook/aoraki-mount-cook-village-walking-tracks/

Sadly, I have just discovered that the canal road I mentioned in the last post that goes past Lake Pukaki is closed (for how long, I'm not sure). I'm gutted as it is really beautiful. Perhaps keep an eye out just incase it has reopened.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.nz/ShowTo...Lake_Tekapo_Mackenzie_District_Canterbur.html

Between Greymouth and Arthur's Pass there aren't a huge number of interesting short walks. I tried one that isn't worth mentioning. However there are literally dozens of beautiful places to pull over and take photos. If it's a lovely day on the day you travel, consider the slightly longer route past Lake Brunner. Also, pull over for a break at Lake Pearson and you'll hopefully be able to get some nice reflection pictures.

Driving South from Aoraki/Mt Cook you will pass over Lindis Pass, which is beautiful, but has few places to stop. However, once in Central Otago, a stop in both Cromwell and Arrowtown is highly worthwhile. The old town part of Cromwell is lovely, with some really quaint shops and nice views of the river. Arrowtown is even lovelier and worthy of at least a lunch stop. You may even choose to pull over at Shotover River and watch the speed boats for a while. Or a bit closer to Queenstown, watch the bungy jumpers.

I hope this helps. :)
 
Unfortunately we can't take DD into the glow worm caves at Te Anau, but I'm hoping we'll be able to do them at Waitomo.

We were hoping to do the majority of our driving during DD's nap which usually starts at about 11am. So my plan was to do what we can when we arrive at our destination, and then catch up on what we missed out on the following morning before driving onto our next destination, around 11am. Is this too late? Should we be trying to get on the road first thing in the morning? This will probably create a grumpy toddler. :lmao:

I'm sure you will love the caves :)

As for driving and naps I would manipulate it a bit maybe every second day match her nap schedule? Mine need their nap when they need their nap but we found they will often adjust a bit when on holiday. It was finding places a 'nap distance' away that has lead to some of our lovely obscure finds though :thumbsup2
 
I agree with Wanderlust about the harness, we do the same, also are you taking a buggy or planning on hiring one?
http://www.babyonthemove.co.nz/Hire-Me/Hire-On-The-Move If you hire a mountain buggy it can often cope with the less hilly/root laden tracks. It's good in the redwoods for example.
Also are you bringing a carseat for your little one or planning on hiring one? Baby on the move also hires these out, I had major issues getting a carseat guaranteed through the campervan companies when we did our South Island tour with kids, also only two companies had places in the back to install them. Both buggies and carseats can usually be taken on the domestic planes free of charge - think the rules on this are still the same.
 

Another suggestion is to invest in a digital version of the Waikato and Bay of Plenty Entertainment Book. It's NZ$60 (or $45 if you already have an Australian membership) but you would get this money back from just two entrance fees.

Please double check before you take my word for it, but I'm pretty sure it includes, amongst many other things, savings for:
- Waitomo Caves
- Paradise Valley and Rainbow Springs (I prefer Paradise Valley for young ones).
- Huka Prawn Park - Quite a few of the thermal parks around Rotorua (e.g. Hells Gate)
- Some Auckland Attractions (I think both the zoo and Kelly Tarltons are included).
- Plenty of restaurants around Rotorua and Taupo.

http://www.entertainmentbook.co.nz/search-the-book.aspx?bookinit=waikato
 
Gosh Wanderlust and Tulips, all this awesome advice that you are give Bec makes me realise that, at some point soon, I really should spend some time travelling in my own country instead of going overseas!!
 
Gosh Wanderlust and Tulips, all this awesome advice that you are give Bec makes me realise that, at some point soon, I really should spend some time travelling in my own country instead of going overseas!!

Definitely! :thumbsup2 :goodvibes

I think it's so easy to take for granted what we have on our doorstep, when infact us kiwis and Aussies are so very very lucky. I pretty much count my NZ travels as being as equally rewarding as my overseas ones.
There are so many people in the Northern Hemisphere who spend years dreaming of coming to NZ (a recent British survey found NZ to be the place British people most wanted to visit in the world). I try to look at the NZ landscape the same way they might, and I found myself constantly in awe.

Bec, I just thought of this link
http://www.aatravel.co.nz/main/time-distance-calculator.php
I think it's a better travel calculator than google because it allows for the slow, windy roads, and the occasional snack and bathroom breaks.
 
Wow, thanks, this is so awesome! I have a fair bit of reading ahead of me!

Gosh Wanderlust and Tulips, all this awesome advice that you are give Bec makes me realise that, at some point soon, I really should spend some time travelling in my own country instead of going overseas!!

Don't worry, I've seen very little of Australia... :rolleyes: I always figured it's not going anywhere, so I'll get there eventually, but there might come a day when I don't want to do long haul flights any more, and that's when I'll see more of Australia :lmao:

Bec, I just thought of this link
http://www.aatravel.co.nz/main/time-distance-calculator.php
I think it's a better travel calculator than google because it allows for the slow, windy roads, and the occasional snack and bathroom breaks.

Thanks I have seen that link, but for some reason I don't like it telling me how long I'm going to want to stop anywhere :rotfl:
 
Gosh Wanderlust and Tulips, all this awesome advice that you are give Bec makes me realise that, at some point soon, I really should spend some time travelling in my own country instead of going overseas!!

I did tell you I love organising trips :)
 
I agree with Wanderlust about the harness, we do the same, also are you taking a buggy or planning on hiring one?
http://www.babyonthemove.co.nz/Hire-Me/Hire-On-The-Move If you hire a mountain buggy it can often cope with the less hilly/root laden tracks. It's good in the redwoods for example.
Also are you bringing a carseat for your little one or planning on hiring one? Baby on the move also hires these out, I had major issues getting a carseat guaranteed through the campervan companies when we did our South Island tour with kids, also only two companies had places in the back to install them. Both buggies and carseats can usually be taken on the domestic planes free of charge - think the rules on this are still the same.

We're bringing our stroller and renting car seats. We'll have the carrier for walks where the stroller isn't suitable, and we'll definitely have a leash :lmao:

Just remember stopping is making memories not losing time :)

Oh it's not that, I'm definitely OK with stopping, it's a website deciding how much I'm going to enjoy that stop and telling me how long in going to spend there :rotfl: I know it's pretty silly, but I'm a bit contrary like that. :rotfl2:
 
Oh it's not that, I'm definitely OK with stopping, it's a website deciding how much I'm going to enjoy that stop and telling me how long in going to spend there :rotfl: I know it's pretty silly, but I'm a bit contrary like that. :rotfl2:

No, it's not trying to do that. It just factors in the standard type of short breaks that the majority of people take such as petrol and bathroom breaks. From memory it adds roughly 10 minutes to every few hours (don't quote me on that though). If you also stop for walks, attractions, and long meal breaks you need to add a lot more time.

I used to be a destination expert for NZ on Trip Advisor and the reason we tended to recommend this travel calculator over the likes of google maps, is that it has been calculated with NZ roads in mind. It realises that the roads between Wanaka and Haast are narrow and windy and that you will spend quite a bit of time slowing down for sharp turns and one way bridges, so a calculation based on the length of road and primary speed limits is not always accurate.
Google Maps is generally fine for the North Island places you will be visiting, since you will be driving on highways where you can travel at a more consistent speed. But not as great for the Mountain passes and deep country of the South.
In saying that, to be fair I haven't tried using it for a South Island road for a few years. Perhaps it has got better??
 
I'm pretty sure Google maps now uses live information it gets from people currently driving on that road, which again would make it more accurate for busier roads, and not necessarily these ones.

Only adding 10 minutes per hour or so makes more sense than what I thought it was doing thigh l though :rotfl2: I thought it was using the average time someone stops at each destination...:rolleyes1
 
I'm pretty sure Google maps now uses live information it gets from people currently driving on that road, which again would make it more accurate for busier roads, and not necessarily these ones. Only adding 10 minutes per hour or so makes more sense than what I thought it was doing thigh l though :rotfl2: I thought it was using the average time someone stops at each destination...:rolleyes1

Our conversation made me curious, so I decided to do a quick comparison of Google and the AA Calculator to see if any changes have happened to their accuracy over the last few years. :rotfl:

AUCKLAND AIRPORT - TAUPO
264km
Follows motorways and main Highways (State Highway 1) the whole way.

Google: 3hr 6min
AA: 3hr 29min
Given that many people would stop for about 15-20min for a meal and bathroom break on the way to Taupo, I'd say that in this case, both are very accurate.

WANAKA - FOX GLACIER
263km
Follows narrow, winding roads and has some of the most beautiful scenery in the country (these are not roads you will want to rush on).

Google: 3hr 3min
AA: 4hr 26min

Even though these drives are pretty much exactly the same number of kms, there is NO way you could travel them in the same amount of time. The Haast road will definitely take closer to 4hrs than 3, particularly in a camper.

From memory, during our trip a few years back, we travelled from Lake Hawea (slightly north of Wanaka) up to Fox Glacier in roughly 6 hours. This included a lunch break, a bunch of bush walks, and some photo stops. 6 hours might sound like a lot, but I enjoyed every minute of it. The road travels alongside lakes, stunning braided rivers, through rainforest, and eventually along the coastline. It changes frequently and is never boring. There are very few towns, restaurants, or petrol stations on this route though; you will definitely feel like you are in the middle of nowhere. So make sure you leave Wanaka topped up with supplies. :)
 
Wow no wonder you have such good suggestions.

Cheers Tulips. :goodvibes You have made some pretty great suggestions yourself.

There are some really clued up experts on TripAdvisor, more so than me. I just really enjoyed helping families with young kids as that was the demographic I could most relate to. While the others would give advice on multi-day hikes through Milford, I would help those with young kids (or those who were considerably less fit) with walks that were under 30min :rotfl:
I resigned when I realised I was spending way too much time online, but I still love getting the chance to help people every now and then. If I'm not planning my own trip, the next best thing is helping others with theirs. :)
 
OK, I'm still trying to work out my North Island itinerary. We'll have a car, and will be staying in hotels. We will have milk on us at all times, it will be in an esky the whole time, but I don't want to do too much hotel hopping, as I don't like to keep it out of a fridge for too long.

So my question is this - should I change it to 3 nights in Rotorua, one night in Waitomo and 2 nights in Auckland?

Is there as much to see on the drives on the North Island? So in other words will we be stopping much?
 
OK, I'm still trying to work out my North Island itinerary. We'll have a car, and will be staying in hotels. We will have milk on us at all times, it will be in an esky the whole time, but I don't want to do too much hotel hopping, as I don't like to keep it out of a fridge for too long. So my question is this - should I change it to 3 nights in Rotorua, one night in Waitomo and 2 nights in Auckland? Is there as much to see on the drives on the North Island? So in other words will we be stopping much?

That split looks good.

No there isn't as much to see on the drives. The roads are considerably less interesting. You may stop in the occasional small town for a meal break, but that would probably be about it.

Are you flying from the Sth Island to Rotorua or Auckland? Rotorua saves time, Auckland is much cheaper. However, the main reason I ask, is should you fly into Auckland, there are multiple options for driving between the two cities.
This includes the quickest route via State Highway 1b and Cambridge, the route via Matamata (which could call for a stop at Hobbiton and the very cute visitor information centre) or perhaps you could even take the longest route via Hamilton and visit the zoo (which is really quite lovely).

Speaking of visitor information centres. Make sure you go inside the one at Aoraki/Mt Cook. It is stunning.
 










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