New "term" for pre-teen girls I heard yesterday...

[phorsenuf]

hehe..have you SEEN what these kids pull in the mall? the eyerolling, the huffing, the deep dramatic sighs, the "Mo-om...I'm not going to look right/fit in in that!"

Originally posted by gymnasticsmom68
That falls under the 'That's too bad' category in my house.

yep...my kids are NOT going to be telling me what to buy! They pull something like that and we're outa there!
Thankfully my boys are not like that. Then again I just buy most of the clothes without them.
Even if I had daughters and they pulled that it still wouldn't work.

That's the problem these days is parents who won't take charge!
Maybe the new tagline for parents should be "just say no!"

 

[Deb in IA]

Originally posted by stinkerbelle


either that or the mothers picking everything out for their daughters...living vicariously through them.

Methinks you are absolutely right about that one, stinkerbelle.

 

[disneychrista]

Originally posted by stinkerbelle
hehe..have you SEEN what these kids pull in the mall?

the eyerolling, the huffing, the deep dramatic sighs, the "Mo-om...I'm not going to look right/fit in in that!"

As the mother of a 13 & 11 YO I am the BOSS of what they wear. There are even clothes that their step-mom & father buy them that they WILL NOT wear when they are with me (the writing on the BUTT pants were one of them).

My response to the "Mo-om...I'm not going to look right/fit in in that!" is fine I won't buy it them but I also will not buy you "that one" either.

 

[kadaten]

Originally posted by JerseyJanice
This thread makes me glad I have only a boy.

You know, TEENS dressing suggestively to rebel against their parents goes back many generations. It's not just this one.

I am freaking out reading this thread because we are talking about such young girls.

Like someone else here said, if they're dressing like this (i.e., with their lower abdomens and undies showing) at 8, 10, and 12, what will they wear to rebel or get attention with at 15 and 16?

Have you been in the little kids department lately? And by little I mean age 4-6!! The stores make and sell this stuff for them, too!! (Sell is probably the scariest part of that because it implies there is someone out there buying that crap!!) My DD is 3.5 and just started wearing a size 4. That automatically cut our clothes choices in half in some stores, as I will NOT put her in that trampy-looking stuff...no matter how old she is or how popular the clothes are! You can be popular without looking like you're selling yourself on the street corner.

As to the OP....I think it's a perfect term Disgusting, yes, but so are the girls that dress that way and the parents who let them.

 

[Briar Rose 7457]

As to the OP....I think it's a perfect term Disgusting, yes, but so are the girls that dress that way and the parents who let them.

I repeat -- address the problem, don't add to it with demeaning, disgusting terms. you're talking about someone's daughter, you know.

 

[stinkerbelle]

Originally posted by kadaten
Have you been in the little kids department lately? And by little I mean age 4-6!! The stores make and sell this stuff for them, too!!

i have noticed that...especially when shopping for my friend's daughter who is 5 and likes "grown up 'sophisticated' clothes"

thankfully to her that just means tee-shirts and capris w/o "little girl" sayings on them (cutesy stuff - she likes everything plain)

I find old navy to be rather "age appropriate"...as is gymboree for the younger crowd.

however abercrombie kids and limited too are pushing it. Even abercrombie has had some bad press concerning their marketing ploys to this age bracket (the "tweens").

And I applaud all the mom's that let their daughters pick out thier clothes but ultimately have the final say! Gives them their sense of individuality but still reins them in.

I repeat -- address the problem, don't add to it with demeaning, disgusting terms. you're talking about someone's daughter, you know.

well maybe the parents should cover their daughters up - that would address the problem.

 

[Jeafl]

I took my 2nd grader shopping for a swimsuit last week and one of the stores we went to was Target. She grabbed a bunch to try on, and when I saw some of them I almost died. One in particular was a string bikini bottom that tied on the sides and the top had 2 little triangles. It looked absolutely ridiculous on an 8 yr. old! I was really surprised that Target carried those kind of swimsuits in that size range. It would have been cute on an older teenager, but definitely not my 8 year old.

 

[disneychrista]

Originally posted by kadaten
(Sell is probably the scariest part of that because it implies there is someone out there buying that crap!!)

I agree. If we as parents weren't buying this stuff then they woudn't be selling it.

I can remeber a few summers ago I spent HOURS looking for shorts that my DD's could wear that were appropriate and conformed to school dress code. It is darn near impossible to find shorts that are at least as long as the finger tips when the arms/hands are at their sides.

 

[DisneyJules]

A girl age 10- 14 does not have a job to be able to buy this clothing, mommy or daddy must be supporting it financially. I can't believe some of the things young girls are wearing today, why the need to want to grow up so fast?

 

[phorsenuf]

Originally posted by Briar Rose 7457
I repeat -- address the problem, don't add to it with demeaning, disgusting terms. you're talking about someone's daughter, you know.

well, maybe if the parents hear what people are calling these kids it will get them to stop and think of how they are presenting their children to the world!

Just curious tho, how does one address the problem? Taking on the clothing industries, magazines, TV, or the parents?
As long as this type of look is going to pushed in everyones face then the only people who really have control over the situation is the parents. Talking to parents aren't going to work so perhaps the only way is demeaning and disgusting terms.
Now I'm not saying go up to these parents and say their kid looks like a prostitot, but maybe if the term goes mainstream it will wake them up!
I know if I had a daughter and for some reason I went temporarily insane and let her dress that way and then heard how she was being referred to, I would be mortified and really rethink her manner of dress.
Sometimes you need a big ol' bucket of cold water thrown on you to wake you up!


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I remember one time when I was a teenager I came downstairs to say goodbye to my parents before going out. My dad asked what kind of perfume I was wearing. I told him and he said "you smell like a french prostitute!" cracked me right up, but you know what....I never wore that perfume again. If he thought that, then how many other people thought that I wondered.......

 

[snoopy]

I also think part of it is what the child is taught to value.

My nieces are cute little girls, very tiny and pretty. However, they have been involved in sports since they were about 5 or 6 years old. These girls are about playing soccer, not looking like little ho's. Yes, clothes are important to them, but not the end all be all. I think its our responsibility as a society to teach girls that there is more to life than the way they look.

 

[cruisnfamily]

Originally posted by disneychrista
I can remeber a few summers ago I spent HOURS looking for shorts that my DD's could wear that were appropriate and conformed to school dress code. It is darn near impossible to find shorts that are at least as long as the finger tips when the arms/hands are at their sides.

I have this problem too! Do most of the schools not have dress codes? How do these kids get away with wearing it to school....forget about the parents enforcing rules, don't the schools enforce them? It is very, very hard to find shorts of the appropriate length. We don't have uniforms but we do have a dress code and it's very tough with girls. For my son it's very easy.

I'm grateful that next year DD is going to a middle school that wears uniforms. School polo shirt and khaki or navy shorts...no denim. I know I'm going to go thru fits finding appropriate shorts though as none of the kids wear the actual "uniform" shorts. They must all have short legged girls because I can't find anything long enough.

 

[cruisnfamily]

Originally posted by phorsenuf
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I remember one time when I was a teenager I came downstairs to say goodbye to my parents before going out. My dad asked what kind of perfume I was wearing. I told him and he said "you smell like a french prostitute!" cracked me right up, but you know what....I never wore that perfume again. If he thought that, then how many other people thought that I wondered.......

I firmly believe the dads out there could have a very big impact if they would pay attention to what their daughters are wearing. A few weeks ago DD was dressed for school in clothing that meets our dress code(shorts past her thumbs, tank top at least 3 fingers wide, socks and sneakers) and dad made her go change after much argument. He told her he didn't care if it met the school dress code, it didn't meet his dress code and she wasn't wearing it to school. That one incident has changed some of her thoughts on what she wears....Dads have more power than they know.

 

[Beauty]

I asked my 12 year old about the girls that dress like this. He said that Sarah looked good, but then I realized that Sarah is a senior and has the body to look good.

I told him NO I mean the girls in your class.....He said OH they look stupid, they just want to be popular but the other girls talk about them behind their backs. I asked him what they said and he told me I would get mad if he said the word and I told him no I wouldn't and he said they called them "HOs". Now whether they are or not doesn't matter, its the fact that they are being called names.

At the awards ceremony last month there were a few girls dressed like this and the parents were talking about why on earth the parents of these girls would let them out of the house dressed like that. It just looks awful! I mean a 12-15 year old shouldn't worry about looking SEXY, there is plenty of time for that LATER in life not to mention the fact that THEY ARE KIDS!!!!!!

As far as popularity goes, I would much rather my child be popular by the way he acts and treats people then by what he wears. As the girls get older and wear clothing like that they are going to be "Popular" but behind their backs they are going to be called awful names.

Its just not worth it!

 

[skiwee1]

Originally posted by Briar Rose 7457
I repeat -- address the problem, don't add to it with demeaning, disgusting terms. you're talking about someone's daughter, you know.

Well if the parents don't care what their daughter looks like then why should we worry about what terms are used? Values start with the family. If the parents want their little girls looking like tramps then I see no harm in terming them just that. What is next? Thongs on a 12 year old? Now that would be even more disgusting then any term I could think of!

 

[disneychrista]

Originally posted by skiwee1
looking like tramps then I see no harm in terming them just that. What is next? Thongs on a 12 year old? Now that would be even more disgusting then any term I could think of!

Why are 12 YO's are suppose to have Visable Panty Lines?

Now a 12 YO in a thong swimming suit, I can agree is beyond any borders.

 

[phorsenuf]

Originally posted by disneychrista
Why are 12 YO's are suppose to have Visable Panty Lines?

I don't get why a 12 year old should care if she has panty lines. I sure as heck didn't when I was 12 and I still don't at 40! If my clothes fit properly than it is not a problem.
All we are doing is teaching these children to care about looks and image. There are far more important things to be teaching our young children!

 

[disneychrista]

Originally posted by phorsenuf

All we are doing is teaching these children to care about looks and image. There are far more important things to be teaching our young children!

If it takes a thong for my DD to feel comfortable in a pair of pants then by all means I am going to buy them for her. At 32 I could care less about my panty lines but my 13 yo is very conscience about it.

It is not like she is "showing off" her BUTT or anything. She wears very appropriate clothing, no super low rise pants, no belly shirts. She is simply making her self confortable in her clothes.

 

[TalkisCheap]

Ok, I'm 13 and I don't wear belly shirts and I were reasonably low jeans...nothing disgusting, and I definatly DON'T wear thongs. I however, do find nothing wrong with shorts with writing on the butt. I like them. I own two pairs, one from Villanova's campus store that says "Cross County" on the back and the other says "Track" with one of those winged shoes from Limited Too. My mom doesn't like a lot of clothes because she says they're too revealing, but if the shorts arn't wicked short...who cares if they have writing??!! But, that's just my opinion....

 

[phorsenuf]

Originally posted by disneychrista
If it takes a thong for my DD to feel comfortable in a pair of pants then by all means I am going to buy them for her. At 32 I could care less about my panty lines but my 13 yo is very conscience about it.

It is not like she is "showing off" her BUTT or anything. She wears very appropriate clothing, no super low rise pants, no belly shirts. She is simply making her self confortable in her clothes.

That's what I am saying, its too bad that girls these days (and I am not singling out your daughter) are so consious about how they look. Now, I'm not saying they shouldn't care, one should have some pride in their appearence, but If one has to wear certain underwear to be comfortable with how they look to others or how they percieve they look to others, then I still think that society is pushing that appearence and image is everything.

I think too that wearing a thong is more noticeable. I've seen lots of girls with thong panty lines and it looks a whole lot worse than good old granny panty lines!