New Monorail thoughts

[LILJAN59]

Do any of you think that with the two new parking garages,the bridge from SSR to DTD, AND taking out the last bus stop, that they may be making room for the monorail to run from TTC to DTD at long last. There was an easement on SSR property to extend the monorail. I bet if they charge to park in the garage they could pay for the monorail inno time!!!:


Ok, flame away!!!!h

 

[Paging Tom Morrow]

I'd love to see it, but put the chances of it happening are worse than my Mets winning the World Series this year.

 

[rteetz]

I would love to see an extension of the monorail any where. I have been waiting for the monorail line to be updated for so long now and it really hasn't for ever so this would be great. But I don't expect to see it happen there was no talk of it when they announced the expansion plans so i don't see it happening.

 

[Disworldluv]

There will be no extension of the Monorail. The overall cost will negate the
possibility of this happening. I would love to see this happening but.........

 

[Peter Pirate 2]

No chance in hell and anyone who thinks there is is drinking the kool aid. There is no financial incentive, therefore Disney isn't even considering it. The sooner you people (obviously) with imagination in your hearts realize this, the sooner you can hold this currently souless company's feet to the fire and attempt to force change.

 

[rteetz]

I agree that this will probably not happen even though I would like it to. But the guy above did bring up a good point that charging for parking could offset the overall cost eventually.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

Not going to happen. The monorails are starting to be money pits, with all of the safety features they've had to add, as well as the maintenance issues. They are moving less people per hour, which makes it less effective at getting people to places where they spend money.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I agree with all sentiments...


Though Pete is starting to give me that "disgruntled ex-employee who was fired from WOD for having a domestic with his estranged ex who works at Ragland road in the parking lot" kinda creepy vibe...
Nothing a little Prozac can't cure

If we are all EXTREMELY lucky...we'll see one more set if trains...and that I think might even be a longshot.

Disney has gotten comfortable cutting stuff out over the last 10+ years...because there is not one shrivel of backlash.

Everyone just goes with it. Get on the bus, baby!

 

[manning]

Only if it could be built cheaper. Maybe something like the one at Heathrow terminal 5 airport. Understand it is cheaper to build and much more flexible.

 

[Peter Pirate 2]

I agree with all sentiments...


Though Pete is starting to give me that "disgruntled ex-employee who was fired from WOD for having a domestic with his estranged ex who works at Ragland road in the parking lot" kinda creepy vibe...
Nothing a little Prozac can't cure

If we are all EXTREMELY lucky...we'll see one more set if trains...and that I think might even be a longshot.

Disney has gotten comfortable cutting stuff out over the last 10+ years...because there is not one shrivel of backlash.

Everyone just goes with it. Get on the bus, baby!

Wha??? I don't know whether to be insulted or flattered???. Geez, Locked, I'm just a simple islander living and dying in 3/4 time...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Wha??? I don't know whether to be insulted or flattered???. Geez, Locked, I'm just a simple islander living and dying in 3/4 time...

I'm worried about you...seem more sarcastic and disgruntled than normal.

Which don't get me wrong...I love it...but I'm trying to do my one good deed of the decade

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

No chance in hell and anyone who thinks there is is drinking the kool aid. There is no financial incentive, therefore Disney isn't even considering it. The sooner you people (obviously) with imagination in your hearts realize this, the sooner you can hold this currently souless company's feet to the fire and attempt to force change.

~I totally agree with this -- somebody please help me?!?

I agree with all sentiments...


Though Pete is starting to give me that "disgruntled ex-employee who was fired from WOD for having a domestic with his estranged ex who works at Ragland road in the parking lot" kinda creepy vibe...
Nothing a little Prozac can't cure

If we are all EXTREMELY lucky...we'll see one more set if trains...and that I think might even be a longshot.

Disney has gotten comfortable cutting stuff out over the last 10+ years...because there is not one shrivel of backlash.

Everyone just goes with it. Get on the bus, baby!

~LOL! This post is too funny -- but sadly, I agree with you. What's up with that?

Only if it could be built cheaper. Maybe something like the one at Heathrow terminal 5 airport. Understand it is cheaper to build and much more flexible.

~lockedoutlogic & Mr. Pirate are right, there is no incentive for Disney to lift a finger -- they won't even fix the current monorail -- Disney will resort to cutting hours or not running the monorails, at all!

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Only if it could be built cheaper. Maybe something like the one at Heathrow terminal 5 airport. Understand it is cheaper to build and much more flexible.

The problem with heathrow is that it was built using at least partial government funds or government authority...Disney is a public stock company. Even though Iger has more cash than he could conceivably burn if he did it 24 hours a day until the day he died...
...he's not interested in giving one cent that won't make money down the road.

Monorails don't...
Neither would John carter....but that must be different

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

Wha??? I don't know whether to be insulted or flattered???. Geez, Locked, I'm just a simple islander living and dying in 3/4 time...

~LOL. Pirate Warbucks, you should be flattered!

I'm worried about you...seem more sarcastic and disgruntled than normal.

Which don't get me wrong...I love it...but I'm trying to do my one good deed of the decade

~Don't worry, that's just his battle cry, lol. But, I've got nothin' because I agree with both of you. Bummer.

 

[Jimsig]

Wha??? I don't know whether to be insulted or flattered???. Geez, Locked, I'm just a simple islander living and dying in 3/4 time...

Sounds like someone is also a Jimmy Buffett fan

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Sounds like someone is also a Jimmy Buffett fan

All people who don't like Buffett are communists and should be deported and shamed by their families.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

All people who don't like Buffett are communists and should be deported and shamed by their families.

~QFT -- our major league baseball team hosts a Parrothead Night dedicated to Jimmy Buffet in July, I love it! It's nice to get a little slice of paradise.

 

[Rumors Rocks]

I'd love to see it, but put the chances of it happening are worse than my Mets winning the World Series this year.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

The costs for Monorails have come down over the last few years making them much more cost effective. A on line search has piles of systems and costs, some very expensive and others much more cost effective. Today a average system costs the same as a road (1 1/2 lanes in each direction).

I don't think you would see a monorail from DTD to TTC because it would just have guests parking at DTD to go to the MK. If it would happen, your more likely to see loops from resorts to the AK, HS and Epcot.

Now all that said, I really see a light rail or a pod system being built, covering the resorts and parks. This type of system is the coming thing, it consists for cars or pods of varying size to fit the capacity needs, and travels over a rail or rails or roadway, computer controlled. Since it will be on the ground for the most part, with some elevated areas, it would be more cost effective.

This system would be especially effective if combined with a station for guest arriving form outside the park/airports.


Time will tell.

AKK

 

[Lewisc]

I bet if they charge to park in the garage they could pay for the monorail inno time!!!:


Ok, flame away!!!!h

Not a flame, a good dream BUT if Disney decides to charge for parking it will be to pay the 85 million + cost of building the garage. To pay for the cost of running the garage. Revenue exceeds that. Right to the bottom line.

I'd love to see it, but put the chances of it happening are worse than my Mets winning the World Series this year.

The chances of the Mets winning is is 75 to 1. I'd almost go far as to say teleportion a reliable and inexpensive way of moving guests will be developed long before a monorail extension would be considered.

The costs for Monorails have come down over the last few years making them much more cost effective. A on line search has piles of systems and costs, some very expensive and others much more cost effective. Today a average system costs the same as a road (1 1/2 lanes in each direction).

Disney is on "swamp" land. The cost to put the support beams is high. The numbers improve if you build light rail, only elevating sections as necessary to avoid grade crossings.

I don't think you would see a monorail from DTD to TTC because it would just have guests parking at DTD to go to the MK. If it would happen, your more likely to see loops from resorts to the AK, HS and Epcot.

Rail works when you need to move a lot of people from one point to another point. Rail from DTD would make a lot of sense if Disney decided to build larger garages, charge for all day parking and make DTD as a second TTC. Get those offsite guests walking through DTD on their way back to their cars.

Now all that said, I really see a light rail or a pod system being built, covering the resorts and parks. This type of system is the coming thing, it consists for cars or pods of varying size to fit the capacity needs, and travels over a rail or rails or roadway, computer controlled. Since it will be on the ground for the most part, with some elevated areas, it would be more cost effective.

Do you really see this happening? or You'd like to see such a system. I predict Disney will be skipping intermediate steps and will go right to teleportation.

Time will tell.

AKK

Time has told. Disney never extended the monorail to the WL. Disney decided to go with boats instead of rail when they were designing the EPCOT resorts.

I think it's more likely Disney will discontinue monorail service to EPCOT (although unlikely) then Disney expanding the monorail.