New DVC Contract for Wilderness Lodge?

[Popouri DVC]

I certainly wanted VGF.

I feel lucky to have gotten it toward the end of the resort's sales period. My purchase decision was more emotional than analytical. That being said, I think it's worth every penny. Others here would disagree with me, perhaps.

Now, over the last 18 months and having gotten our feet wet with DVC, we pretty much plan to only use our VGF points for VGF. We love being there and are now spoiled by a one bedroom, even though there are only two of us.

 

[Dean]

Many of us enjoy posting and debating here. Debating where Wilderness Lodge stands in terms of "premiere-ness" is certainly a perfectly valid debate.

However, I see it as a totally irrelevant debate with regard to how VWL2 will be priced. No, it is not as premier as VGF. But, will potential buyers be comparing its point charts to VGF? My guess is very few will.

They get the DVC sales pitch. They want to be "in the club". The will come up with an idea as to how many points they need for a typical week. Multiply that by the price per point. If they can do it, they will. The fact that they are paying the same number of points per night as the VGF will go unnoticed by the masses.

Most people really have no idea what they are buying when the buy direct from Disney. I was, to a degree, one of those. I wanted VGF when it went on sale. I did not look at point expensiveness. Even if I had, I do not know that it would have made a difference. And, if that was a mistake on my part, I am certainly not the only one who has made it!

Potential Buyer: "But it seems to me that the wilderness lodge is more expensive than the grand Floridian"
Guide: "yes but it is a newer resort, has a longer contract life"
PB: "Can I get the GF"
G: "No it is sold out"
PB: "Oh, ok"


It is all about what can be sold, and what the market will bear

Lots of points here. Yes we sometimes enjoy or hate discussing certain subjects. When one is discussing a "home away from home" there is less difference in the deluxe ranking discussion but I feel the ideas are still valid. Certainly most timeshares are "sold" not "bought". And many if not most retail buyers are relatively uninformed and act more on emotion than substance and that's likely true for most resale buyers to a degree as well. In reality if most people made good timeshare and financial choices, no timeshares would exist including DVC.

 

[jerseyduke]

I certainly wanted VGF.

I feel lucky to have gotten it toward the end of the resort's sales period. My purchase decision was more emotional than analytical. That being said, I think it's worth every penny. Others here would disagree with me, perhaps.

Now, over the last 18 months and having gotten our feet wet with DVC, we pretty much plan to only use our VGF points for VGF. We love being there and are now spoiled by a one bedroom, even though there are only two of us.

I can't blame you there! there are only 2 on my end, and I want to get more points to do the same (and avoid the chaos of trying to get a studio there)

 

[disneynutz]

I can't blame you there! there are only 2 on my end, and I want to get more points to do the same (and avoid the chaos of trying to get a studio there)

For us, 2 people equals a 1 bedroom, 3 people means we get a 2 bedroom.

Bill

 

[DenLo]

And I would assume there will be a $5 discount for current DVC owners at the start.

I wouldn't count on it. If DVD expects that the VWLII will sell well without an incentive they won't offer a discount.

Would you consider WLV2 as "premier" of a property as BLT or VGF though? Enough to demand the same cost pp?

I don't think it should qualify as premier as many of the rooms at WL are small for deluxe rooms, they didn't put in bunkbeds only because of the decor, there wasn't room for a second queen bed. The small rooms were of the reasons WL (and AK) both had problems with booking the resorts. The rooms didn't measure up to what guests now consider to be a deluxe resort. Whether DVD will think it is a premier resort could be different story because of profitability of charging higher prices.

 

[DisDadDVC]

I wouldn't count on it. If DVD expects that the VWLII will sell well without an incentive they won't offer a discount.

The discount is not usually offered because they expect sales to be bad. It is offered as an incentive for current owners to add on during the first month or so of sales. They have done it with all the recent DVC's. The current poly discount is likely due to poor sales. That is different from the initial discount.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

The discount is not usually offered because they expect sales to be bad. It is offered as an incentive for current owners to add on during the first month or so of sales. They have done it with all the recent DVC's. The current poly discount is likely due to poor sales. That is different from the initial discount.

It actually was a sales technique for many years with DVC. Set a price but always have a discount. Then they kept it interesting by changing the discount. Everyone loves a sale!

 

[disneynutz]

It actually was a sales technique for many years with DVC. Set a price but always have a discount. Then they kept it interesting by changing the discount. Everyone loves a sale!

IMO the management changes at DVD/DVCMC has changed many of the ways that DVD/DVC is doing business.

Bill