New Disney Ships: News, Rumors, Speculation.....and Names!

[asgur5]

DCL promoted the Treasure much more and it is basically the same as the Wish. Lounges are part and maybe those themes don't appeal as a big change but I would think things like the Lion King restaurant and Hercules stage show might be covered more. Or the new promised villain appearances. Heck I am curious about what the Grand Hall will look like- the concept art was pretty sparse. By the end of October we had actual photos of the Treasure atrium with a Maiden voyage over Xmas. This is really quiet if they are trying to sell it.

Not sure no media is a wise idea if they want people to board. As They cant board if they dont know the ship exists.

But the aesthetics so far seem really uninspired.

 

[LAX]

I am sure those of you that keep close track know it like the back of your hands. How many ships does DCL have in operation now? What many, if any, are being built?

LAX

 

[erionm]

I am sure those of you that keep close track know it like the back of your hands. How many ships does DCL have in operation now? What many, if any, are being built?

LAX

The upcoming Disney Destiny is number 7. The upcoming Disney Adventure (Singapore based) will be number 8. There will be TWO more Wish Class ships (one for DCL in 2027 and one for OLC (Japan) in 2029). And then THREE more in a totally new class between 2029 & 2031. Once all are sailing, there will be a total of 13.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_Cruise_Line_ships

 

[LAX]

The upcoming Disney Destiny is number 7. The upcoming Disney Adventure (Singapore based) will be number 8. There will be TWO more Wish Class ships (one for DCL in 2027 and one for OLC (Japan) in 2029). And then THREE more in a totally new class between 2029 & 2031. Once all are sailing, there will be a total of 13.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_Cruise_Line_ships

Thanks. It sounds like DCL has been in expansion mode lately. Has demand pretty much gone back to pre-pandemic level?

LAX

 

[dreamer17555]

Thanks. It sounds like DCL has been in expansion mode lately. Has demand pretty much gone back to pre-pandemic level?

LAX

During the covid revenge travel period (Once things started going back to normal) it seemed every cruise line (including DCL) was booming which caused all of them to knee jerk IMO and start rushing to order more and more ships. Many of these ships holding 4000 + guests (across the cruise industry not just DCL). So lots of beds to fill while more and more port cities are not as friendly to the cruise industry.

The cruise lines have also started to both out price their guests and cut back on offerings in the last year- from Carnival switching up their loyalty program, to NCL charging for extra entrees, to both Royal and DCL raising prices on their newest ships to eye watering levels. I personally suspect that the cruise industry is in for a rude awakening in the next few years in the US if there is any economic downturn (which always happens eventually). It will be interesting to see if DCL keeps their commitment to 13 ships. It would not be the first time Disney announced a project and walked it back (looking at you Tony's Town Square Theater and Mary Poppin's ride).

 

[LAX]

During the covid revenge travel period (Once things started going back to normal) it seemed every cruise line (including DCL) was booming which caused all of them to knee jerk IMO and start rushing to order more and more ships. Many of these ships holding 4000 + guests (across the cruise industry not just DCL). So lots of beds to fill while more and more port cities are not as friendly to the cruise industry.

The cruise lines have also started to both out price their guests but cut back on offerings in the last year- from Carnival switching up their loyalty program, to NCL charging for extra entrees, to both Royal and DCL raising prices on their newest ships to eye watering levels. I personally suspect that the cruise industry is in for a rude awakening in the next few years in the US if there is any economic downturn (which always happens eventually). It will be interesting to see if DCL keeps their commitment to 13 ships. It would not be the first time Disney announced a project and walked it back (looking at you Tony's Town Square Theater and Mary Poppin's ride).

Thanks for the info. I supposed there are clauses in place that would allow DCL to delay orders if things don't go according to plans.

LAX

 

[JM_97]

2025 Destiny
2026 Adventure (Delayed from 2025)
2027 Wish #4
2028 Wish #5 (OLC)
2029 New Class #1
2030 New Class #2
2031 New Class #3

Are the rumors true that the 2029-2031 ships are going to be smaller than the Wish class? To eventually phase out the Magic and Wonder?

 

[Flossbolna]

Are the rumors true that the 2029-2031 ships are going to be smaller than the Wish class? To eventually phase out the Magic and Wonder?

Thats not a rumor. That was in the official announcement.

It’s also on the Meyer Werft website: https://www.meyerwerft.de/en/ships/n._n._(2029).jsp

About 3000 passengers, 20% larger than Magic class.

 

[crazy4wdw]

The upcoming Disney Destiny is number 7. The upcoming Disney Adventure (Singapore based) will be number 8. There will be TWO more Wish Class ships (one for DCL in 2027 and one for OLC (Japan) in 2029). And then THREE more in a totally new class between 2029 & 2031. Once all are sailing, there will be a total of 13.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_Cruise_Line_ships

Isn't there going to be a 2nd Wish class that will be built for the Oriental Land Co.?

 

[dreamer17555]

Isn't there going to be a 2nd Wish class that will be built for the Oriental Land Co.?

I think they have the option for a 2nd Wish OLC but it is as of now not on the MW schedule of ships coming

https://wdwnt.com/2025/04/oriental-...or-a-second-disney-cruise-line-ship-in-japan/

 

[LAX]

Are the rumors true that the 2029-2031 ships are going to be smaller than the Wish class? To eventually phase out the Magic and Wonder?

Are they that old that would warrant replacement?

LAX

 

[dreamer17555]

Are they that old that would warrant replacement?

LAX

Yes. By the time the first one of the smaller ships launch it will be 2029 making the Magic 31 years old. Since DCL has mentioned multiple times having 13 ships in the fleet I think it is more likely that the Magic retires when she is 35 years old in 2033 giving a few years of 13 ships (if they stay committed to that number).

 

[LAX]

Yes. By the time the first one of the smaller ships launch it will be 2029 making the Magic 31 years old. Since DCL has mentioned multiple times having 13 ships in the fleet I think it is more likely that the Magic retires when she is 35 years old in 2033 giving a few years of 13 ships (if they stay committed to that number).

Is that typical lifespan for a cruise ship?

LAX

 

[dreamer17555]

Is that typical lifespan for a cruise ship?

LAX

LMGTFY-

"Initial service and sale

• Most cruise ships operate for their original owner for the first 15 to 20 years.
  
  
• After this period, they are often sold, typically when they are around 25 to 30 years old.
  
  
• Older ships may have their amenities and technology updated during their initial service to remain competitive.

Extended life and retirement

• When a ship is sold, it may be modernized for a niche market, which can extend its life for another 5 to 10 years.
  
  
• Eventually, it may be retired because it becomes outdated, inefficient, or too expensive to maintain.
  
  
• The ship's final years may involve being sold to different owners or repurposed for other uses, such as a residential or hospital ship.
  
  
• When a ship is no longer economically viable, it is typically sent to a shipbreaking yard to be dismantled and recycled. "
  

DCL is highly unlikely to allow another cruise line to repurpose a ship. Older ships require a lot in maintenance costs and are not as fuel efficient as newer ships (nor do they have the same draw). Having recently been on the Magic I do not see her making it to 40 but it is possible if DCL is willing to put in some serious money to her upkeep.