Never again

[Mags2002]

Sadly, both adults and children seem to forget their common sense and manners, especially on the European sailings. This is why the crew come back stressed and desperately in need of a vacation

 

[Bad Pink Tink 2.0]

Sadly, both adults and children seem to forget their common sense and manners, especially on the European sailings. This is why the crew come back stressed and desperately in need of a vacation

Some of us know and understand and make it known that we see the stress they are under and try to bring a bit of Disney magic to them

 

[DCLMP]

Sadly, both adults and children seem to forget their common sense and manners, especially on the European sailings. This is why the crew come back stressed and desperately in need of a vacation

I’ve been on a couple of Europeans sailings and didn’t notice anything different.Im not one to pay attention to other people. Why do think the European cruises are that way?

 

[asgur5]

I’m hoping by doing DCL cruise the first week of September there will be less kids to contend with This will be my first experience on DCL so we’ll see how it goes. (Usually do RCCL, have also been on Carnival and NCL)

I too wish Disney would on occasion have an Adults only cruise.

If disney does adult only cruises then surely there should also be cruises only for families with no childless adults allowed? It can be advertised as a cruise where families dont have to deal with the stress of childless adults and old people judging and complaining about their parenting and kids. As a parent it sounds like bliss...... But its wrong.

As soon as we go down the path of seperating out groups because they cant tolerate other groups then it puts us on the slippery path of intolerance.

Thankfully economics means disney cruises will never do adults only cruises. The rooms are built for families. Disney loses too much money if only 2 people are in each room. Plus it would be rather dystopian to have a ship full of cartoon characters and kids shows with no children.

We just all need to tolerate each other. And maybe even enjoy each others company.

 

[asgur5]

Sadly, both adults and children seem to forget their common sense and manners, especially on the European sailings. This is why the crew come back stressed and desperately in need of a vacation

i dont believe european sailings would be any worse then florida sailings. What would actually be the reason for it?

 

[asgur5]

If the worst thing that happens on a cruise of 3000 people is that a couple of teenagers swipe some booze from the free booze cabinet in the concierge lounge and some kids are being noisy in the hallways at midnight then it truly has been a safe and incident free cruise. These are the worst case incidents from a 1950s sitcom tv show. Real life is usually much much worse.

 

[dreamer17555]

If disney does adult only cruises then surely there should also be cruises only for families with no childless adults allowed? It can be advertised as a cruise where families dont have to deal with the stress of childless adults and old people judging and complaining about their parenting and kids. As a parent it sounds like bliss...... But its wrong.

As soon as we go down the path of seperating out groups because they cant tolerate other groups then it puts us on the slippery path of intolerance.

Thankfully economics means disney cruises will never do adults only cruises. The rooms are built for families. Disney loses too much money if only 2 people are in each room. Plus it would be rather dystopian to have a ship full of cartoon characters and kids shows with no children.

We just all need to tolerate each other. And maybe even enjoy each others company.

I would never say never to an adult only DCL Sailing (I could see a rare event and they could charge what they want and it would sell out before it hit gold). And no it would not by dystopian. Adults can love Disney too (I mean look at the forum you are on. Kids aren't posting here)

Also I find childless adults to be far less judgmental than other parents. I try to extend grace but even I am not immune to occasionally wanting a parent to remove a child that is screaming from a show or to corral a child that is running all over the dining room and getting in the path of the staff. I know how hard it is to be a parent but I also know we can remove a child from a situation so it doesn't ruin the experience for others and this is super easy on a cruise where you can easily get to your stateroom. I doubt you will find 'bliss' or less judgement on a sailing with only parents and families.

 

[DCLMP]

If the worst thing that happens on a cruise of 3000 people is that a couple of teenagers swipe some booze from the free booze cabinet in the concierge lounge and some kids are being noisy in the hallways at midnight then it truly has been a safe and incident free cruise. These are the worst case incidents from a 1950s sitcom tv show. Real life is usually much much worse.

I totally agree with you.

 

[DCLMP]

i dont believe european sailings would be any worse then florida sailings. What would actually be the reason for it?

I've done five DCL European cruises and numerous Florida cruises and not really seeing the difference. The drinking age is 18 in Europe I don't know if that makes a difference.

 

[DCLMP]

Not what I wanted to hear, we are on the 5 night to Spain Aug 27. We did the 7 night Northern Europe last year at the beginning of September and didn't experience any of that. Only booked the 5 night one as our 50th wedding anniversary falls within this cruise.
Michael

We cruised in August last year and the year before on the 11 night northern and didn't experience any of that either. They were great cruises.

 

[auntlynne]

There are plenty of sailings with very few kids. I don’t see why the would need an exclusive adult sailing.

Yes, but you dont know that until on the ship. Thats different to an adults only sailing where you can not book anyone under 18 as a passenger.

I know how to find them. And I have found these cruises for many years. That’s why these stories shock me.

Again, I don’t consider pre-schoolers who are the center of parents and grandparents’ universe to be trouble makers. The few older kids who travel at the same time blend in with the adults.

 

[DCLMP]

I know how to find them. And I have found these cruises for many years. That’s why these stories shock me.

Again, I don’t consider pre-schoolers who are the center of parents and grandparents’ universe to be trouble makers. The few older kids who travel at the same time blend in with the adults.

I've done two TA's, a Hawaii cruise and a Quebec that were heavily adult, but with a few kids and teens mixed in to make it feel like you weren't on an old persons cruise.
I like the demographics of a Disney cruise and I like seeing all the multi-generational. families cruising together. I will confess I love kids and their energy, innocence, and enthusiasm. If I wanted a 40+ cruise I'd do Celebrity, Hal or Virgin.

I'll admit the Summer cruises are a bit kid heavy, but I do my own thing and like I said I like kids and my kids love other kids. If kids annoy you don't book a DCL cruise when school is not in session.

 

[GrnMtnMan]

I heard about adults being rude to other fellow adult passengers, young kids running around the ship and bugging other passengers, kids bullying other kids, teens swearing and pulling pranks on cruisers ie stealing magnets, fish-xtender gifts, etc, 18-20 year old age range being rude in the adults only area as well as around the ship after midnight. I personally didn't witness this behaviour except for kids being very silly and running around the ship but to me that was typical kid behaviour and nothing that would stop me from sailing again or ruining my trip.

I was on the 10 night too and this was my experience as well….didn’t personally experience anything unpleasant, but heard about issues from the Facebook group.

 

[auntlynne]

I've done two TA's, a Hawaii cruise and a Quebec that were heavily adult, but with a few kids and teens mixed in to make it feel like you weren't on an old persons cruise.
I like the demographics of a Disney cruise and I like seeing all the multi-generational. families cruising together. I will confess I love kids and their energy, innocence, and enthusiasm. If I wanted a 40+ cruise I'd do Celebrity, Hal or Virgin.

I'll admit the Summer cruises are a bit kid heavy, but I do my own thing and like I said I like kids and my kids love other kids. If kids annoy you don't book a DCL cruise when school is not in session.

I like seeing happy children, too. Especially when they are interacting with characters.

Our low child count cruises are Disney cruises when school is in session. The best being the two weeks after Thanksgiving and the end of April/ beginning of May. Warm enough air and sea temps, too.

As for other cruise lines I have taken, the demographics are a mystery until onboard. They do often follow the school’s calendar effect. I am confident only in my DCL plotting.

 

[Dznypal]

Gee we were on the BI cruise last year and didn’t see any of the behavior like OP unfortunately had to deal with

There was though on boy around 9 ish. The first 2 days the parents either didn’t give him too little meds or not at all
Thst kid was literally all over he could not be still
The next nights they must have given him too much cause he was always falling asleep at dinner and we had early dinner

 

[holula]

Gee we were on the BI cruise last year and didn’t see any of the behavior like OP unfortunately had to deal with

That cruise is when schools have gone back, so you might see kids under 5 but not many older than that.

I’m firmly in the camp of I would love an adult only cruise and I think Disney could make a ton of money from it if they had special merch just for that cruise. Their target audience (me included) would go nuts for it.

 

[Karin1984]

If I can give my two eurocents why European audience MIGHT be worse than (short) Floridian cruises.

Not saying there are no helicopter parents in Europe, but I do think that in general European parents give their children more freedom growing up. As a cruise ship is a closed environment where basically nothing can happen, they are provably allowed more easily to roam free than American children.

And to throw some oil back on the flames about the nationality and line cutting...

When you are in Disneyland Paris and you have been staking out a spot for the parade, and at the last moment a parent pushes their child in front of you. It is very likely a Spanish family. At least that is my experience for years now.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

As a cruise ship is a closed environment where basically nothing can happen, they are provably allowed more easily to roam free than American children.

My experience was that the angst on our Med cruise was not initiated by Americans, the Americans seemed to be more chill and just happy to be there. The fight over children (who are not common on the cruise line we were on) and the pool were between a group of British people and another nationality that seemed to be also from Europe. And the main reason I know the group of people were British is they loudly proclaimed "I'm a Brit". It was actually several of us Americans who, while watching the thing unfold, were like "well they don't own the ship not sure why they think they do". That's not to say people in general were wanting the children to be disruptive, but I think the Americans largely did not seem like it was our place. I mean I would never have done what the Brits did, no way. If I had an issue I would have sought out the staff not yelled and ganged up on another family and it was the buzz for the rest of the cruise.

That said I met another lovely British couple, but then I met a more demanding although still nice German/Hong Kong resident (they were German with a Hong Kong residency as well).

On the FB page I'm on for the cruise line, the Americans are much more timid and less fussy mostly asking about tipping. The Europeans as well as the Australians take the cake easily on behaviors and even though I shouldn't be by now I'm still shocked at how they complain about not having this particular tea, or their vegemite on board.

The only thing I really saw on the Americans on my European cruise was that they did the ship sponsored excursions in higher numbers than other nationalities. Most of our excursions (which were always small in numbers) were predominately Americans. That said we're going back to the Med (western now) and during late March-early April so we'll see if there's any difference there.

 

[Karin1984]

I'm still shocked at how they complain about not having this particular tea, or their vegemite on board.

That is their reply to the Americans complaining that Disneyland Paris hasn't got (enough) peanutbutter. Yes, I have seen this complaint more than once. Australians want their vegemite, Brits want their tea and Americans want their P&J sandwiches.

During the pandemic, the UK based cruises were more tailored towards a UK audience. What I have heard is that they had more tea on board (and a tea cart coming by in Cabanas for breakfast), but also the pub quizes had more UK based questions. There is no use doing a quiz with US tv show phrases as the majority won't have seen those tv shows.

If the majority of your audience is one country or culture, a company would be wise to play into it. So have more (different) tea on board if you have mainly Brits on board, and buy some vegemite if you are sailing from Australia.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

That is their reply to the Americans complaining that Disneyland Paris hasn't got (enough) peanutbutter. Yes, I have seen this complaint more than once. Australians want their vegemite, Brits want their tea and Americans want their P&J sandwiches.

During the pandemic, the UK based cruises were more tailored towards a UK audience. What I have heard is that they had more tea on board (and a tea cart coming by in Cabanas for breakfast), but also the pub quizes had more UK based questions. There is no use doing a quiz with US tv show phrases as the majority won't have seen those tv shows.

If the majority of your audience is one country or culture, a company would be wise to play into it. So have more (different) tea on board if you have mainly Brits on board, and buy some vegemite if you are sailing from Australia.

Oh no I meant on this cruise line it's not that they don't have tea..oh they have tea.. plenty of it (afternoon tea is fantastic IMO!) it's that they were upset that the cruise line didn't go into port to get their particular tea they wanted. I guess in the past they did (probably on the smaller ships, by smaller I mean the largest ship they have has 600 passengers max).

When you're talking about majority of cruise passengers being one culture or one country I think that's highly specific. More like AIDA which is largely for the Germany segment and thus speaks much more German on board. Or CroisEurope which is French and has predominately French speaking. Majority of cruise lines are not like that and that's not what people are referring to either.

The cruise line that I am particularly talking about it's not about sailing from Australia for instance, it's that the Australians on board even in Antarctica (which the cruise line sails a lot to) expects their vegemite, even in the Arctic Circle or around Africa.

I think you got a different impression of my comments. These aren't cruises being marketed towards a particular country or culture, these are passengers of various nationalities that sail all over the world but have very demanding at times requests, the Americans by in large tend to not be that way.