Neighborhood Parking issues

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

With the above pics: for me, blocking the neighbors trash can (was this pic an actual trash day or had neighbor delayed taking trash can back from street? )
If it was actual trash day and camaro blocked trash man from picking up (assuming trash man has truck with arms that reach out and dump trash) I would honestly ask 1 time for camaro owner not to block my trash can , next time trash would go on it,lol.

Actually this was several days past trash day though that blue thing is the recycling...they aren't the best at getting their trash back into their garage (per the HOA trash cans cannot be visible from the street beyond trash day). When trash/recycling day comes they put their trash/recylcing on the other side of their driveway (opposite of the camaro) so the trash and recycling vehicles had just enough room to get the arm out and pick up the trash though their trash can would often end up askew.

Maybe their cars leak and home owner doest want leakage on driveway?

Yeah see when I have my two friends over their cars leak oil so they park on the street (though in front of my house) but no their cars don't leak any oil at all.

I didn't realize that I wasn't the only one with not liking them park on the street until it came up in conversation when speaking with the other neighbors.

 

[bcla]

Yeah that's how it is here. The times that the white car (see my other post) parked where the mail boxes are they had no problem blocking that car in (they would park at an angle so that car couldn't even back out and go around the mail vehicle) but thankfully they still delivered the mail.

My mom's neighborhood is completely different because her mailbox is attached to her house so the mail person just parks their vehicle somewhere and makes their rounds.

Apparently there's some new rule that new individual residential boxes have to be curbside unless a waiver is granted, but there are plenty of existing setups where they're not. New subdevelopments I've been to tend to have centralized locked boxes that conform to the requirements. They'll have have to get out of their vehicles though.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Apparently there's some new rule that new individual residential boxes have to be curbside unless a waiver is granted, but there are plenty of existing setups where they're not. New subdevelopments I've been to tend to have centralized locked boxes that conform to the requirements. They'll have have to get out of their vehicles though.

Yes my mom's house was built in the early-mid '60s.

All of our mailboxes in our neighborhood look like this:


And yeah they do get out but they also park their vehicle right up by the mail box.

My in-laws however don't have community mailboxes like that. What they have is a cluster of mailboxes by the road for 4 houses at a time spaced out on the street but each mailbox is for each house so kinda old school mail at the curb but modern in the sense that they have 4 mailboxes lined up together to make it more effecient. So it is true if a vehicle was blocking the mailboxes there it would make it significantly more difficult to deliver the mail and also for someone to get their own mail because for that situation they don't actually get out of the vehicle they just use their vehicle's window. But yeah if they really had to they could still get out of the vehicle.

 

[North of Mouse]

So glad I live in the south in a suburban subdivision where most people are considerate and neighborly. People wouldn't think of routine parking in front of a neighbor's house - exceptions for occasional party, get together, etc. We were just raised up to think that way, and be considerate - no rules.

 

[Kellykins1218]

How do you not park in front of someone's house if you can only park on one side of the street? We always have to park in front of the neighbor's because there is no parking on our side. Where else are we supposed to park? Sorry, but it's not discourteous to park on a public street.

 

[bethbuchall]

Exactly what can anyone do when there's a vehicle parked in front of a mailbox? Maybe request that the city or county set up a red or white curb in front of each and every mailbox to facilitate mail delivery?

At least in my neighborhood, the carriers get out of their vehicles and off their butts. They sometimes even smile when they see people. I own a townhouse and all of the mailboxes are next to each front door. It just seems really odd that a postal carrier won't do something as basic as get out of a vehicle to deliver mail.

We have great mail carriers here. They deliver by truck to the mailbox, but if it's temporarily blocked or there is something too large for the box, they will get out to deliver it. But if the carrier has to get out of the vehicle too often, that is going to really slow down the route. These routes are designed as driving routes and obviously differ from walking routes. I can certainly understand the carriers not delivering to mailboxes that are often blocked. It's not that they are being lazy. Our carriers also smile and wave and sometimes even engage in a bit of pleasant conversation.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

How do you not park in front of someone's house if you can only park on one side of the street? We always have to park in front of the neighbor's because there is no parking on our side. Where else are we supposed to park? Sorry, but it's not discourteous to park on a public street.

I personally can't answer parking in front of a house when only one side of street it is allowed.

But I know the OP is not in an HOA neighborhood but here's an example from July 2015 from my neighborhood which is an HOA one:



Here's another one from March 2016 (different person but still a Property Manager):


April 2016 (same person as the July 2015 post):


There are more examples but still. Aside from the City ordinance of moving every 48 hrs there isn't a hard and fast rule....but it is def. viewed as discourteous, unsafe, inconvenient, unsightly, etc. Even if you don't live in an HOA neighborhood it doesn't make the reasons listed by the Property Managers as invalid.

 

[sasywtch]

When I first moved back to CA, I rented a house that was long with the driveway on one end (kind of an extension of the house). The garage door opener never worked and you had to walk across grass. The front door was in the middle so we normally parked on the street in front of the front door and walk up the short walkway. My neighbor across the street had 2 cars and an old truck that he rarely drove. They would park their two cars in the garage but he parked the truck on the street. On his side??? No, across the street on my side under my tree so he had the shade from my tree LOL They were extremely kind people and he'd help out when he could so I never said anything. Now the renters that moved in a few houses from them that had parties in their open garage every weekend??? I did say something to them once but only because it was 50 cars every weekend.

 

[mummabear]

This reminds me, next to Wellington airport is a suburb that is a short walk from the airport, they are public streets and people were leaving their cars parked there while they went away instead of paying ridiculous airport parking costs.
It is driving the neighbourhood nuts, legally the people aren't doing anything wrong, the answer in this case was to add a residents parking permit only, but the neighbourhood doesn't want to have to pay for the permit.
One resident took to slashing tires , over 300 in a year before he was caught.

OP: I can understand why your neighbor would be annoyed, but you are legally in the right and like you her attitude would be more likely to make me park and car there all the time then give her what she wants....

 

[PrincessShmoo]

This reminds me, next to Wellington airport is a suburb that is a short walk from the airport, they are public streets and people were leaving their cars parked there while they went away instead of paying ridiculous airport parking costs.
It is driving the neighbourhood nuts, legally the people aren't doing anything wrong, the answer in this case was to add a residents parking permit only, but the neighbourhood doesn't want to have to pay for the permit.
One resident took to slashing tires , over 300 in a year before he was caught.

OP: I can understand why your neighbor would be annoyed, but you are legally in the right and like you her attitude would be more likely to make me park and car there all the time then give her what she wants....

Now, see, in our town, there's a 72 hour parking limit. You can't leave your car, parked in the same spot, longer than that. Maybe they should invest in a meter maid to monitor how long the cars are parked in that neighborhood.

 

[mummabear]

Now, see, in our town, there's a 72 hour parking limit. You can't leave your car, parked in the same spot, longer than that. Maybe they should invest in a meter maid to monitor how long the cars are parked in that neighborhood.

Even with a time limit a meter maids, they would still have plenty of people who go away for a weekend, 1 night for a concert or meeting.
As one car leaves another will arrive and the parks particularly the ones the shortest walk from the airport will still be full.
Personally I think the airport was there before the people so the should have given better thought to buying there.
I think the permit works in other areas and the $50 a year would be worth not dealing with the aggravation

 

[bcla]

Now, see, in our town, there's a 72 hour parking limit. You can't leave your car, parked in the same spot, longer than that. Maybe they should invest in a meter maid to monitor how long the cars are parked in that neighborhood.

That's generally a local government responsibility around here. Cities will have their own ordinances, and counties will have ordinances that apply in unincorporated areas. If there's no other parking restriction, 72 hours is typical in the San Francisco Bay Area. I've seen a warning on a car parked in my neighborhood. Typically they'll warn and chalk a car first, then come back after 72 hours. The police do this (there's no parking control) when someone complains, and if a car gets towed it's typically been there well beyond 72 hours.

All the counties around here (except San Francisco) have rural areas, so a 72 hour limit is somewhat of a one size fits all rule that's not well suited for some backroads. However, parking enforcement in those areas isn't a big concern unless it's in a densely populated suburb, and someone complains to the sheriff or CHP. I was thinking of going backpacking in a rural California county (Mariposa) once, and they had no countywide parking limit and have no incorporated cities. The only limits they had were specified by street in the main town of Mariposa. I think it was possible for a vehicle to be considered abandoned though.

 

[bcla]

Even with a time limit a meter maids, they would still have plenty of people who go away for a weekend, 1 night for a concert or meeting.
As one car leaves another will arrive and the parks particularly the ones the shortest walk from the airport will still be full.
Personally I think the airport was there before the people so the should have given better thought to buying there.
I think the permit works in other areas and the $50 a year would be worth not dealing with the aggravation

A few places I'm familiar with are Disneyland as well as certain stadium areas. I believe that some residential areas absolutely require some sort of residential permit to park on the street. Residents can buy guest passes though.

http://anaheim.net/DocumentCenter/View/258

Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, California has a pretty crazy parking situation going on. I'm familiar with it because I'll take the train to work, and the stadium is close to the station I use. It's also fairly close to several residential areas, and there have been complaints about stadium/concert goers parking in those neighborhoods or perhaps parking where there's no restrictions and walking through the neighborhoods. They have signs restricting parking to only residents on certain days. There's an industrial area near the train station where they list game days when parking is restricted. It's actually kind of crazy because they'll also close up the train station's parking lot on game day for train station users, even though it's part of the train station. I've seen stadium security there too. The way into the San Francisco 49ers headquarters and training facility is through the train station parking lot, which is kind of odd. There's also controversy because there's a youth soccer complex there, and they're prevented from using them around game days.

 

[mom2rtk]

I get annoyed when neighbors who KNOW that my husband and I park in front of my house park in our spots. I would never say anything though since it's public parking. The only time we have said something was when DH snowblowed our spots last week. In the time it took him to come in and get a drink, the woman across the street parked her car right in the middle of our two spots so that we couldn't even get one of our cars there!

Not much they can do though OP, it's public space.

That's really cheeky.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

If you really want to see some fireworks, just show up in Boston, NYC, Phily, Chicago, etc. after a big snowstorm. People will spend hours digging out "their spot". When someone else tries to park there it can get ugly in a hurry.

That's what lawn chairs are for.

Or whatever you have handy:

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

That's what lawn chairs are for.

Or whatever you have handy:

You learn something new everyday!

 

[mamacatnv]

I personally can't answer parking in front of a house when only one side of street it is allowed.

But I know the OP is not in an HOA neighborhood but here's an example from July 2015 from my neighborhood which is an HOA one:

There are more examples but still. Aside from the City ordinance of moving every 48 hrs there isn't a hard and fast rule....but it is def. viewed as discourteous, unsafe, inconvenient, unsightly, etc. Even if you don't live in an HOA neighborhood it doesn't make the reasons listed by the Property Managers as invalid.

I am in an HOA however, there is no violation of HOA rules when we street park. This was not cited as a safety issue, this was my neighbor saying the area in front of her house is for her guests not for us or our guests.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I am in an HOA however, there is no violation of HOA rules when we street park. This was not cited as a safety issue, this was my neighbor saying the area in front of her house is for her guests not for us or our guests.

Sorry I must have read your OP incorrect but now I see you just said there is no HOA rules against parking so my apologies on that.

I wouldn't anticipate your neighbor citing a safety issue necessarily though it still could be depending on your area (not in your area so I can't really speak to that). Don't get me wrong I think she flew off the handle on you for sure but as far as parking in front of her house or what she deems is in front of her house I'll just be honest all of my neighbors would have the same reasoning...but none of my neighbors would act like yours did that's for sure.

When I pasted in those screen shots it was to show that it can be seen as discourteous (which is what the poster I was responding to was contesting) even if it is a public "hey I can do what I want" street (except for our City's Ordinance on street parking) as well as other reasoning. And for us like I said it's no HOA violation but it doesn't mean it doesn't get noticed by neighbors and people using the roads to get to their house or that the Property Managers don't take to our social networking site to kindly but sternly request homeowners have vehicles park in their garages and if not in their garages then at least on their driveways

 

[mamacatnv]

Sorry I must have read your OP incorrect but now I see you just said there is no HOA rules against parking so my apologies on that.

I wouldn't anticipate your neighbor citing a safety issue necessarily though it still could be depending on your area (not in your area so I can't really speak to that). Don't get me wrong I think she flew off the handle on you for sure but as far as parking in front of her house or what she deems is in front of her house I'll just be honest all of my neighbors would have the same reasoning...but none of my neighbors would act like yours did that's for sure.

When I pasted in those screen shots it was to show that it can be seen as discourteous (which is what the poster I was responding to was contesting) even if it is a public "hey I can do what I want" street (except for our City's Ordinance on street parking) as well as other reasoning. And for us like I said it's no HOA violation but it doesn't mean it doesn't get noticed by neighbors and people using the roads to get to their house or that the Property Managers don't take to our social networking site to kindly but sternly request homeowners have vehicles park in their garages and if not in their garages then at least on their driveways

I can see the argument however in our neighborhood this is not the case. People park all over the place, some streets are more congested than others. Mine is actually not all that congested, neighbor doesn't want her "guests" to have to walk a few feet or park elsewhere, she feels the spaces in front of her house are hers and since this concept is new to me, thus I posted here. We do use our driveway and garage. Our neighborhood is mostly families with teen/young adult children, empty nesters and retiree's. The families with the teens/young adults have more cars, it is just a fact when a household of 4 or 5 all drive.

My neighbors rant was purely all about her, her space and her guests. IMO she went about this all wrong. I am a fairly reasonable courteous person, when approached reasonably and with courtesy. Neighbor was none of these things, as I shut the door in her face I said to my DH "Its a public street, she can kiss my (you get the idea)"

 

[mjkacmom]

It's just a custom, not a law -- I'd expect people to understand in that situation.
But, I'll also say, to the more cars than fit issue -- at least in my region my realtor actually said that people owning more cars that fit into a driveway tended to lower property values. Since it's not something I have experience with, I'd definitely think twice about buying a home in a neighborhood where I had to fight for street parking because people owned more cars than they could fit in their space. But then, I'm not a city girl either I remember the Seinfeld episodes about fighting for street parking in NYC, lol

They don't allow overnight street parking here, so fut

Even with a time limit a meter maids, they would still have plenty of people who go away for a weekend, 1 night for a concert or meeting.
As one car leaves another will arrive and the parks particularly the ones the shortest walk from the airport will still be full.
Personally I think the airport was there before the people so the should have given better thought to buying there.
I think the permit works in other areas and the $50 a year would be worth not dealing with the aggravation

We have permits for areas bordering the highway where you can catch buses to NYC (they stop at the entrance/exit ramps). It works.