Need help on changing touring style from commando to not-so-commando

We got addicted to the water parks and that ended our commando days. The water parks usually close at 5, so we head there first, stay from 10:00-1:00 or so. Then back home, eat and nap, then to a theme park about 4 to use our fast passes and eat dinner. The biggest bonus of this is that we are never in a theme park during mid-day heat, and starting the day at a water park means you start the day relaxed as possible.
 
I'am also a commando type :crazy2:. I cant control myself:rotfl:. This coming trip I have most our park days being a half day instead of all day to try to cut down on the commando style . I do have a whole day at MK planned from rope drop to closing. But the day we are going to AK in the evening after 3:00 thanks to the late hours. Also doing HS in the evening during EMH, which I hope we wont be sorry because of crowds. Then we are going to Epcot at rope drop and then going to the resort after lunch at Via Napoli to swim and enjoy the resort. So I'm trying to tone it down a bit.
 
I would love to hear from others who have a little bit of a more relaxed touring style, but yet still manage to fit in all the things you want to do.

I think this is your operative phrase here.

It sounds like, for you, it might boil down entirely to mindset. Based on your post, you visit WDW often. So instead of going in with the 'commando' mindset, go in with the mindset of 'we'll be back next year, so if we don't get to it no worries!'

It's easier to fit in all the things you want to do when all the things is a shorter list. A commando mindset will be set up on a touring plan to hit 7DMT then bee line to next 25 things. If your 'must do' list is only 10 things, then the difference will be palpable.

Here are some tools that might help. Have everyone in the party write down two things in each park that they CAN'T miss. It's ok if a bunch of people have the same answer. That makes it easier! Have everyone agree that you will consider the day a success if you do the two attractions on each person's list (that gets everyone in the mindset that a 'good day at MK' will be s much lower bar. Plan your fastpasses around those attractions, and go from there. If your planning muscles are still twitching, plan for some of that slow time. 'Plan' to stop at the Tea cart in Asia at the AK, grab some tasty caffeine, and find a bench somewhere to sit. Planning for relaxing, as much of an oxymoron as it might seem, could be useful if you are used to planning everything else anyway. It might make you feel less anxious.

If you don't already, grab a good wait times app. I'm trying the Lines app from Touring Plans this time to see how it goes. This can also help a bit with the spontaneity. You can scope out some wait times across the park and decide where to go from there.

Last piece would be don't mind the waiting. Not all the queues are all that interesting, but a number of them have been gussied up over the past few years. Take that standby at Everest and try to discover the story of the village. Tinker around with stuff in 7DMT. Look for bad puns in Nemo.
 
We made the switch a while back, mainly from reading the Tour Guide Mike stuff back when it was going. I am not sure how to adjust now with FP+ in place (so some of this is projecting...), but here's how we adjusted. Note that we don't go as often as you seem to have gone, which probably changes our priorities a bit. Here is my advice/experience:

A) Most important: give up on the idea of doing everything. Just pick the few highlights that you care most about. And, just get used to the idea that there may be rides that you never see (we have several we've never been on). But, you will get to see the best things there. Think of it like Thanksgiving dinner (depending on how yours goes...) - you don't have to eat some of everything, you can instead just enjoy your favorite things.

B) We still do rope drop (not an early entry park, though). No matter how much we might not want to at the moment, we are always very glad later on. You can get more done in that first hour than in the whole afternoon. Go ahead and act commandoish for the first hour or two. But then, say "mission accomplished".

C) Figure out how you want to eat lunch. We sometimes get a good size snack midmorning and have a late lunch. Other times we have an early lunch. We rarely eat near noon, though.

D) For the rest of the morning, only do things with little/no wait (or an easy wait, like a show you can enter the theater early for and sit down to wait for), or that you have your fastpasses scheduled for.

E) Leave the park early in the afternoon. If you got a snack, you could have lunch outside the park or make lunch your last thing to do. If you have an earlier lunch, you can maybe do one or two things (preferably with FP+) right after. But, aim to be leaving early. Don't get tempted to "try one more thing" or anything similar.

F) Take the whole afternoon off. Rest. In your room, or at the pool (the pool's not always "relaxing" for us), or shopping (the opposite of relaxing for me, but I know it's great for some), or whatever. Nothing scheduled - just do what you feel like at the time, and assume you will get nothing "done." Just accept that. Think of your park touring as "done" at this point.

G) Have a nice dinner in the parks or at a resort and then return to the parks for the nighttime show (or maybe watch from outside a park - like fireworks from the Poly). If you can afford to, save a fastpass or two for your evening, instead of using them earlier). Don't try to do anything else, unless you won't be going to a park the next day and the lines are low (sometimes the lines will clear out late or something). The key here is to make this just a nice purely relaxing evening experience - enjoy the atmosphere, enjoy a ride or two with fastpass, watch the fireworks or whatever, but don't think of this as a time you really need to "do" anything.

H) Plan at least one day (2 if it's a longer trip) mid-trip that's a rest day. For our "rest day", we like Disneyquest (that's relaxing for us), but figure out what it is for you.


Anyway, that's what seems to work for us. We still see all the main things we want to. We don't get tired or worn out. We enjoy our morning (still see and do a lot in the parks), afternoon (relaxing) doing whatever, and evening (relaxing dinner, nice show, a good final ride). It used to work better with the old fastpass system (we could have a couple for nighttime, plus one or two in the early afternoon/late morning), but I think (hope) it'll still work with FP+...
 

We've switched to a semi-commando style. We still get up early and do rope drop, because I think mornings are the best times to be in the parks. We take a break after a few hours and go back to our resort for lunch and a break (pool time if the weather is nice). Then we head back into the parks for dinner and a few more rides in the late afternoon/evening. I'm still tired at the end of the day, but the break in the afternoon helps a lot.
 
We did one cammando trip and that was it. It was fun but by no means a favorite one. I think the key is to remember to not feel like you are missing out on something. A good vacation is not measured on how many times you rode something. Relaxing by the pool and watching the movies at the resort are in our kids memories as much as riding splash mountain. Don't get me wrong I love disney for the built in entertainment factor but it is not needed the whole vacation from 8-10 for it to be a successful one.
 
I don't do commando, it seems too stressful. What I like to do is build in 2 days of rest to my trips, especially if I'm staying at a neat hotel (and you are). I sprinkle those rest days after 3 or 4 touring days so we can recoup physically and mentally. We're staying CL at AKL and I know we'll want those days to sleep in WAY late, get room service, watch the animals, explore the hotel, and chill by the pool. If we get too bored there is always DS or park hopping in the evening. Decide on which parks on which days, schedule your ADR's and FP's but leave everything else up in the air. Disney will always be there and it sounds like you get there often, so don't sweat it. ADR's and FP+ have FORCED me into having a schedule, and I'm a bit resentful of that, because if I want to do any extra scheduled things I feel way too restricted and stressed. It puts me off scheduling tours and other things because it's just too much. Just tell yourself to take it easy this time, and if you don't like it there's always the next trip! Welcome to the lax side.
 
The resorts have now become more important to us than the parks. We (me and my sisters) always stay deluxe and make a point of only spending about 1/2 days in the parks. When we were staying at Yacht Club, we enjoyed a leisurely breakfast at the resort, or walking into Epcot France to get a pastry, spending the cooler mornings rocking in the rocking chairs at the resort, walking around the boardwalk, getting an ice cream, window shopping, pool time in the quiet pools, resort hopping...the list is endless! It is so much more relaxing on vacation now!!

We used to think that if we didn't do everything in the parks that was offered, we might not be getting our money's worth or getting good use of our tickets. But that's not true. There is still value in it for us. I can now only imagine doing commando just once in a while.
 
I’m interested in possibly changing up our touring style for our upcoming November trip. We are four adults (ages 50-54) who go every year in November (this will be our 6th trip) and have pretty much been touring commando style, i.e. staying in the parks from rope drop ‘til late afternoon/early evening, having dinner and getting back to our room around 10:00ish. We love it and have so much fun, but we also find ourselves sooooo tired at the end of the day. At the end of our last trip, I made the comment that we might need to change our approach a little (I’m the planner). In addition, we are staying at the Boardwalk this year (we usually stay moderate) and with the extra money we’re spending, it would be a shame not to enjoy the resort some.

I’m really at a loss for how to do this though. We’ve been doing Disney for 20+ years pretty much the same way. I would love to hear from others who have a little bit of a more relaxed touring style, but yet still manage to fit in all the things you want to do. I should add we will be there from 11/16-20, arriving around noon on the 16th and leaving around 3pm on the 20th. Thanks so much! :goodvibes

The first step is planning a longer trip, so you aren't so pressured to do everything at once.
 
We've been 20+ times. I am finally relaxing my commando ways.
* I am still a big fan of rope drop and extra magic am hours. Lighter crowds, fewer random people in my photos, we can just stroll along without getting mauled by the oncoming hoards.
* Even though I try to be more relaxed, I still love my lists. They actually help me relax more. For instance planning a fun in Park activity. We like taking photos in silly hats. This is especially fun in Epcot with all the Country themed hats. This slows us down. Makes us explore the shops more to find just the right item for the photo.
* Resort dining is lovely. After your meal you can explore that resort, its grounds and shops.
* We have APs. We enjoy one Park in the morning. We usually have lunch there. Then we head back to our resort for a nap, or some pool time, or just chilling on the balcony with a book and a drink. Then we go to a different Park for the evening. The Parks are so different from day to night. We like to go to most of them twice. Staying at the Beach Club / Boardwalk area makes this extra easy with Epcot and Hollywood Studios.

I have to agree with this. We book our FP+ for mid-morning but get to our chosen park at rope drop. Enjoy light crowds until our FP+ selections kick in, stick around until after lunch, and then head back to the resort for a relaxing afternoon at the resort. Have dinner either at the resort or back in the parks, and spend the rest of the night in our chosen evening park. Much more relaxed this way but still enables us to get a bunch done and fully enjoy the resort. :)
 
Do you consider planning for unplanned time to be commando? Last trip, I did that. It helped some but I learned a lot about boredom repeating attractions, taking care of morning hunger, my own physical limitations and my husband's tolerance for my Disney fandom. For a first hand account, read the trip report linked in my signature. Includes daily spreadsheets and modifications required. It is not devoid of humor. I learned a lot.
 
Take a young child....

Honestly, I'm not sure where we fall on the spectrum. I plan out each activity that we're doing, down to when we'll stop for snacks and what not. We do make sure to sit down for snacks, we also enjoy resting a few minutes before shows/parades. We don't have AS much on our must do than we did before kids. Some of it is because we just don't care to repeat everything and some is because we have a little one now.

The other thing that slows us down a lot, but in a way that we appreciate is table service meals. It's so nice to sit and rest and eat.
 
We are early morning, and on vacation is no difference, I'm up three hours before the park opens, even on early magic mornings. So I stay that way, we go off in am, eat breakfast and lunch in park. Then leave, go back to the room, lounge by the pool, take a nap and head back to a park around 5, eat dinner and take in some night time shows, or fireworks, maybe a few more rides. We go for 10 day or more, this time 15 days, I just can not do commando for that long, so we have to go slower, we also take the time for table meals, everyday, at least two if not three, it makes us sit and eat and talk and relax. We never feel we miss anything, actually we do a lot of things most usually miss, like horse back riding, archery and horse drawn carriage rides.
 
I'm in your age range and, although I am a planner, I don't consider myself "commando." I always take a mid-day break. I try to rope drop, then leave the park around lunchtime. Being in the park in the afternoon with the crowds and heat just doesn't appeal to me. I know a lot of people enjoy the resorts pools, but I just like a couple of hours in the air conditioning with my shoes off. Then I return, refreshed, to a park in the evening. I don't see and do everything, but then who ever does? I also like activities outside of the parks, like the piano and orchestra in the Grand Floridian lobby and the entertainment and atmosphere of the Boardwalk at night. Although the focus is always on the parks, some well-planned non-park time can be enjoyable.
 
We were never commando folks, but we kept "busy". If I want a slower trip I change the focus of the trip. For instance, last December I wanted to enjoy the Holiday decorations. As I planned our days I kept going back to the "theme" and what a difference that made! WE had a blast, enjoyed all of the seasonal activities, ate great meals, and left feeling like we did what we set out to do, and still were rested when we got home.

If we can work the details out with my friend, the next trip is going to be pretty "kidcentric" in that we plan our days around what two little girls. Out "theme" will be different and will include the activities little girls like. ANything else will be a bonus.
 
These are such great ideas for how I'd like our upcoming trip to go! We did our first two trips totally commando. We wanted to fit every single thing we could into our days. (I stalked these boards for every scrap of info, had laminated notecards ~ pre-smartphone app days~ and had every park map memorized before we even arrived.). So we saw a lot in those first two trips, not everything, but we did accomplish quite a bit. And our kids were much younger and less opinionated lol! Then we went to Disneyland 2 years ago and it was TOTALLY different. I don't know if it was the laid back Cali vibe or the fact that we were tired from the 5 days previous in San Fran or the close proximity of everything but we toured DL in a completely different way than we ever thought about in WDW. We hit our favorite duplicate rides in Disneyland, checked out the things that were different like The Matterhorn, rode whatever appealed to us at CA and spent a lot of time enjoying the pool at The Grand Californian. It was AMAZING!! So for our upcoming trip I would love to have that more relaxed style of vacation. I like the lighter rope drop crowds for sure but we are staying at the Poly and I want to make sure we enjoy the resort and give our girls more say in what would make it magical for them. We will be celebrating a sweet 16 and I definitely want the birthday girl to look back on this trip as a beautiful memory...not an exhausting one! Thanks for the great tips especially the ones about "planning" relaxation. That's definitely something my type A planning brain can wrap itself around :)
 
We go each year, and we don't feel like we go commando but we have a touring style that works best for us. I can't even sleep in at home, let alone in Disney - the excitement of being there, makes us wake up early and I start work at 4am on a normal day, so waking up early is no big deal for us and still feels like a vacation. We love mornings and evenings in the parks. We like to get to the park for opening and just play it by ear, have our 3 fps set, do the things we love and leave by 12:30-1pm when the parks get real crowded. We go back to the resort to relax/swim/nap, for most of the afternoon - this has always been great for us and really gives us a chance to wind down and enjoy the resort and recharge for the evening. We have dinner and go back to a park at night. We never feel like we are doing things commando, this way. We take breaks each day, not just once during the trip. We just aren't open-close people.. We need that break in between, to really relax and not over do it. Breaks each day are great for us, and we don't even go with kids lol. This year we will have an 18 month old with us, so the afternoon breaks are crucial for pooltime and naps.
 
This thread appeals to me because Im surprising my husband for our 25th Anniversary: flying from Chicago to Tampa and staying in St. Pete Beach so he thinks that is the trip, then driving to wdw as a surprise. We've been there as a family 5 times as a family and were fairly commando 2005 and 2006 when our kids were young. We went last in late November 2014 and it was different: our first deluxe stay and my dd and I were there a day before my DS and DH because my DS is an actor and was cast in a commercial, so they came the next day. My dd was 21 at the time and we had fun the first day NOT being commando! We checked into WL, then boated to MK where we had a great lunch at LTT (that toffee cake!!!) and we took in the Christmas decor. We then chilled at WL and sat by the fireplace with her friend, who works at MK, then watched the electric boat parade from the dock. It was a great day!

The boys arrived at 1am and bam...we were commando the rest of the trip! MVMCP, on the go...we barely saw WL!!!

So...this trip, despite me being a crazy planner, Im going to chill. DH and I are 50 and 47. Our kids are 23 and 18. DD lives with us, but son is moving to LA, so its just me and DH. This is our first trip EVER by ourselves (other than one night stays in Chicago after concerts, etc). Even when we dated! We didnt have a honeymoon and DD was born 9 days after our 1st Anniversary. We are staying at
POR. DH likes the boats to Disney Springs. I have our days "loosely" planned, which is tough for me. I love rope drop! I love MK early,in the morning. We are not late sleepers. I'm hoping to do Trader Sam's during the trip and we both love AK, so I hope we get alot of time
there.

I have mixed emotions...our kids are grown and we are almost empty nesters. WDW is very special to our family (both kids still love it and are excited for us) so its kind of sad to not have them coming, but my DH and I always joked about what we'd do without them at wdw, lol! So in a sense, Im giving up commando and family this trip! Gwaaaaaa
 












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