Need clarification from the Disboard Gods...

[kristytru]

I'm hoping I explain this well:

I have an april UY and booked a vacation that begins on March 28 and ends April 2nd (so it crosses Use years). The reservation was 230 pts. 184 pts were borrowed from 2010.

After seeing the airline prices we were considering moving the trip to June 2010. the DVC person I spoke to said I could not use the 184 borrowed pts to make the June reservation b/c they are now 2009 points, so basically if I cancel that reservation I lose the 184 points completely

Is there anything I can do other than bite the bullet on the airfare and keep the march/april reservation?

 

[ldo]

when you borrowed the points, that was a final transaction and they have to be used by the end of MArch. The only thing you MIGHT be able to do is see if you can deposit them with RCI with a 2 year window to use--but you would have to do this prior to end of Nov. You need to call MS to see if that is a possibility. Elaine

 

[disneynutz]

Contrary to what many will post on the DIS, UY is important for just this reason. You could deposit some of the points into RCI, but that might be a different headache.

Bill

 

[kristytru]

Thanks all! I just wanted to make sure i was understanding it correctly. Looks like we will bite the bullet and go as planned in March/April

 

[nu2dvc]

Maybe the airfare prices will drop. I think you still have plenty of time to book air and shouldn't do anything hasty.

Why don't you sign up for e-mail fare alerts (I use sidestep.com) and wait it out a bit until they at least dip a little.

Good luck!!

 

[Chuck S]

I think I would call member services and ask.

Did you have enough points, without borrowing for the nights of March 28, to March 31?

The nights in April should not have required borrowed points, as they are in the 2010 use year.

Any borrowed points used for the March nights of the reservation would fall under the no banking rules for borrowed points.

At least that is the way it worked when I've has reservations cross use years.

 

[lark]

I'm hoping I explain this well:

I have an april UY and booked a vacation that begins on March 28 and ends April 2nd (so it crosses Use years). The reservation was 230 pts. 184 pts were borrowed from 2010.

After seeing the airline prices we were considering moving the trip to June 2010. the DVC person I spoke to said I could not use the 184 borrowed pts to make the June reservation b/c they are now 2009 points, so basically if I cancel that reservation I lose the 184 points completely

Is there anything I can do other than bite the bullet on the airfare and keep the march/april reservation?

Something doesn't seem right here with the math. If the entire reservation was 230 points, it's difficult to understand how the first 3 nights could have been 184 points. Basically, you're talking about a 5 night trip, all weeknights. I think the end of March and the beginning of April 2010 are the same season on most points charts. So how can March 28-31 be 184 points, but April 1-2 only be 46 points? Is it possible that MS borrowed more points than you needed from 2010 to actually complete the reservation? I think you need to double check that carefully.

Also, if you cancel the reservation, you do not lose the 184 points. If they told you that, that was completely wrong. If you cancel the reservation today, since it's more than 31 days before the vacation, all 184 points would be restored to your account. They would, though, be restored to the 2009 use year, which means you couldn't use them for a 2010 vacation like you would like to do. But you definitely would not lose them. You could, for example, rent them to someone.

So, for example, if you wanted to, you could try to rent out those points. Let's say you got $9 a point. That would be about $1700. Put it in the bank, and then borrow 2011 points for your June 2010 vacation. When time comes to make a 2011 vacation, you can use the $1700 plus interest to rent the points you need from someone else!

 

[TLSnell1981]

Maybe, I don't understand. Technically, the night of April 1st isn't borrowed...right?

 

[DebbieB]

Something doesn't seem right here with the math. If the entire reservation was 230 points, it's difficult to understand how the first 3 nights could have been 184 points. Basically, you're talking about a 5 night trip, all weeknights. I think the end of March and the beginning of April 2010 are the same season on most points charts. So how can March 28-31 be 184 points, but April 1-2 only be 46 points? Is it possible that MS borrowed more points than you needed from 2010 to actually complete the reservation? I think you need to double check that carefully.

March 28, 29, 30, 31 = 4 nights
April 1 = 1 night
Checkout April 2?

46 x 5 = 230
46 x 4 = 184 - first 4 nights
46 x 1 = 46 - last night

 

[TLSnell1981]

Maybe, I don't understand. Technically, the night of April 1st isn't borrowed...right?

Nevermind. I get it.

 

[lark]

March 28, 29, 30, 31 = 4 nights
April 1 = 1 night
Checkout April 2?

46 x 5 = 230
46 x 4 = 184 - first 4 nights
46 x 1 = 46 - last night

Right. Ok, got it now.