NBC should be ashamed

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by auntpolly
no cop out - I just needed time to collect a few quotes - which doesn't change the fact that my question was never answered. But I quess you only consider it a "cop out" when you disagree with someone - typical.

You asked a question first, one person tried to answer you and that wasn't good enough for you.

Then you are asked a question (in the same manner) and say why should I (answer it)?? I just find that too funny and yes, a cop out. You didn't say, let me get back to you, you said why should I. You did finally answer it though and I do agree that the quotes you wrote are wrong.

 

[auntpolly]

No - I asked a very specific answer that was never answered - at least by the people I was addressing it to. If you read the thread you would see that.

This has been my gripe lately -- drive by character assasinations and then no attempt to back up the attack with facts. This really is no fun anymore.

 

[dmadman43]

Originally posted by LoraJ
Since you are such a big believer in this war, why are you not there fighting?

Why do people always use this stupid Micheal Moore argument?
As for me, I would, but I'm past the age of enlistment, so I do what I can here.

 

[TnKrBeLlA012]

To answer the original question of the post. Yes, NBC should be ashamed!

 

[LoraJ]

Originally posted by dmadman43
Why do people always use this stupid Micheal Moore argument?
As for me, I would, but I'm past the age of enlistment, so I do what I can here.

Well in an earlier post, TiNkErwhatever said we should be there so we could see why the marine acted the way she did. I specified it to her because from her past posts I know she is of age to be in Iraq. Wasn't directing it at you.

 

[dmadman43]

Originally posted by auntpolly
I agree. Kick the reporters out!!! How dare they put that video out and have people start to second guess how soldiers "work"!!!

all bets are off. It's kill or be killed over there.

First off, the SC has ruled the press doesn't necessarily have a right to be there covering the war on the ground. They are there because our military invited them. They can be kicked out anytime. If they aren't careful in how they cover the war and if the military feels their coverage puts our troops or our mission at risk, they can be booted. It neither your job, nor the press' job to go around second guessing the soldiers. The military has procedures for dealing with that, and they do an excellent job at it. Frankly, I'll trust a military investigation over any edited news coverage I see.

 

[BibbidiBobbidiBOO]

I have read none of these replies. But DH is in Iraq right now and it angers me beyond words what the media is doing. Yes, DH is now in more danger since they have aired this. And while we are at it-the media really does not show any of the good things that have happened. They show only the bad, and they had no business airing this. Stupid! Giving the enemy fuel to fight is all that did!

 

[Disney Doll]

I would never begin to second-guess anything a soldier felt was necessary to do in a war situation. I am not there. I have never been in that situation. I have no idea what happened in the minutes before this video was recorded. I have no idea what that soldier may have thought that person was going to do. I have no idea what supposedly "dead" Iraqi insurgents have done, when a US soldier may have gotten close enough to them. There has been talk of their bodies being ****y-trapped etc.

I don't feel that the media should be imbedded anymore. I think their actions put our soldiers' lives at risk.

Quite frankly, if it's a choice between an American soldier and anyone else, I am going to support the American soldier.

 

[TnKrBeLlA012]

Originally posted by LoraJ
Well in an earlier post, TiNkErwhatever said we should be there so we could see why the marine acted the way she did. I specified it to her because from her past posts I know she is of age to be in Iraq. Wasn't directing it at you.

Are 39 year olds of age to enlist? By the way it's Tnkrbelia012,LoraJ. My comment still stands. Unless you are over in Iraq don't judge or presume to know what these people are faced with on a day to day basis. I'm not in the military but I support their actions over there. I would not want to make their lives any harder by agreeing with a biased media!!!!!!!You think and believe what you want.

 

[Olaf]

There's been some mention in this thread about "rules of engagement". Let me enlighten those of you who are in the dark. It's against "the rules" to feign death, it's also against the rules not to wear a uniform.

I think the last few days have illustrated beautifully how much many on the left, and their cohorts in the MSM, support our troops.

 

[Mickey_loves_Minnie]

Originally posted by BibbidiBobbidiBOO
And while we are at it-the media really does not show any of the good things that have happened. They show only the bad, and they had no business airing this. Stupid! Giving the enemy fuel to fight is all that did!

I disagree that NBC had no right to air this; it's called freedom of the press.

I definitely agree that the media doesn't report the good news that comes from Iraq. But that's the case regarding the stories that come from this country, too. The media doesn't like to report good news, just the bad.

 

[Mickey_loves_Minnie]

Originally posted by Olaf
There's been some mention in this thread about "rules of engagement". Let me enlighten those of you who are in the dark. It's against "the rules" to feign death, it's also against the rules not to wear a uniform.

Sure, but that doesn't mean our troops have to stoop to their level. (And I'm not saying that they are.)

Originally posted by Olaf
I think the last few days have illustrated beautifully how much many on left, and their cohorts in the MSM, support our troops.

I'm on the left, and I support our troops. I think you haven't read all of the posts to this thread.

I can totally understand why this marine shot the wounded man. It is against the "rules of engagement", however, and the military is doing the right thing by investigating. That said, I won't be at all upset if I learn that this guy isn't punished or gets off lightly, considering the situation that surrounded him. I can't say I wouldn't have done the same if I were in his shoes. I don't know the horrors of war and what it does to people. (Thank goodness!)

 

[mrsltg]

Wow - it's too bad I've been gone for so long - every now and again I have to work.

Aunt Polly- thanks for sticking up for me in my absence. No, I never said the Marine was a war criminal. What I said was this should be investigated and the tape does not look good. It looks like an execution and that is a problem. I am a big supporter of our troops. Being a supporter and not questioning things when they are wrong is just plain stupid. It does the troops no good to have someone - anyone, not just possibly this Marine- in their ranks who is a loose canon. No one knows whether or not that's the case here, but if it is he needs to be removed. I am completely against sweeping things under the rug. That does no good for our national standing. The terrorists are not going to hate us more as some have suggested. Wake up and smell the last ten years. They hate us no matter what. That does not mean that we should accept the lowering of ourselves to become more like them.

As far as NBC is concerned - they are supposed to show things good or bad. That is the point of media. This is a newsworthy story. I am glad that they have reported it. Light should always be shed on issues such as this.

Erin

 

[LoraJ]

Originally posted by Mickey_loves_Minnie
Sure, but that doesn't mean our troops have to stoop to their level. (And I'm not saying that they are.)



I'm on the left, and I support our troops. I think you haven't read all of the posts to this thread.

I can totally understand why this marine shot the wounded man. It is against the "rules of engagement", however, and the military is doing the right thing by investigating. That said, I won't be at all upset if I learn that this guy isn't punished or gets off lightly, considering the situation that surrounded him. I can't say I wouldn't have done the same if I were in his shoes. I don't know the horrors of war and what it does to people. (Thank goodness!)

 

[Olaf]

I'm sorry, if you support the airing of this tape, you do not support our troops.

Yes, you can wrap yourself in the freedom of the press mantra, but it's absolute nonsense in this particular case.

 

[chadfromdallas]

Whew, this one took off.

 

[Mickey_loves_Minnie]

Originally posted by Olaf
Yes, you can wrap yourself in the freedom of the press mantra, but it's absolute nonsense in this particular case.

As is your post.

 

[dmadman43]

Originally posted by Mickey_loves_Minnie
I'm on the left, and I support our troops.

Really? Do you support the war? Do you support their mission? Do you want them to succeed in the mission they have been given by their CiC? Because if you support them you must support their mission and wish them success.

 

[WishingStar]

Originally posted by dmadman43
Really? Do you support the war? Do you support their mission? Do you want them to succeed in the mission they have been given by their CiC? Because if you support them you must support their mission and wish them success.

That's ridiculous. The "if you're not with us, you're against us mentality." I support the troops, wish them success and hope they all return safely. Do I support the mission they have been given? Nope!

 

[mrsltg]

I'm sorry, if you support the airing of this tape, you do not support our troops.

Wow! Those are big and stupid words. That's quite a leap. And a ridiculous one, at that.

Erin