Navy Seal Chases Down the Killers of his dog.

[wvdisluv2]

these stats are with trained police officers in proper vehicles- lights and sirens.

please see my previous post....believe me, i'm aware of these statisics.

 

[yeartolate]

I would take whatever measures necessary to ensure that I didn't kill an innocent person while in pursut of the imbescile that shot my dog. I lost my 22 yr old step son in a freak car accident 7 yrs ago this Monday... do you REALLY want to go there with me????

I am sorry for your loss, but how could I possibly know?

I would think that the accident would make you acutely aware of what a loaded weapon a car is. Five years ago my son and I were nearly killed my some idiot that thought she could handle the speed. She thought she was being safe. By the time she toppled over to us, she landed on the passenger side of my car. After the accident investigation, I was told that the only reason my son and I were alive was that I did not slam on my breaks. We were that close.

So I am sorry for your loss, but my experience says extreme high speeds are left to the proper people at the proper time, not by someone without the proper vehicle in a period of extreme emotional distress.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

I'm really torn on this. On the one hand, he ignored his baser instincts and went with the lesser of two evils (chasing them at high speeds, a potentially dangerous situation.) He showed restraint, especially when you consider how serious a mental illness PTSD is. Not to mention the fact that apparently 911 and the police did not have a problem with his actions or they would have told him to desist.

On the other hand, I don't want civilians who would most likely not be able to control their car at such a high rate of speed to think that this is okay. Better to take down their plates and let the cops take it from there than kill yourself or somebody else.

I'm also very disturbed by the number of posters that are advocating shooting the men who did this. Is it an absolutely heinous crime that deserves to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Yes. But one thing I like about America is that we have the right to trial by jury. The average Joe is not meant to be a judge, jury, and executioner all rolled into one. The punishment should fit the crime. Killing somebody because they shot a dog would be cruel and unusual.

I agree that we need to "take back" our communities, but turning into vigilantes and taking justice into our own hands will not do that. It will only increase the violence. Thank God I dont' live in Texas if that is the prevailing attitude.

 

[wvdisluv2]

I am sorry for your loss, but how could I possibly know?

I would think that the accident would make you acutely aware of what a loaded weapon a car is. Five years ago my son and I were nearly killed my some idiot that thought she could handle the speed. She thought she was being safe. By the time she toppled over to us, she landed on the passenger side of my car. After the accident investigation, I was told that the only reason my son and I were alive was that I did not slam on my breaks. We were that close.

So I am sorry for your loss, but my experience says extreme high speeds are left to the proper people at the proper time, not by someone without the proper vehicle in a period of extreme emotional distress.

I am very glad that you and your son are safe. I know all too well the heartache of losing a loved one to a car accident. Sadly, we are not in control of the our surroundings. Any time we get in our car, we are taking a chance. I believe Marcus did what he believed to be right at the moment. I can honestly say I would have done the same thing. *IF* I hadn't shot the people that shot my dog on sight. Regardless, this is a prime example of telling those you love how much they mean to you. We do it everyday now. INCLUDING our dogs. I think we can all spout judgement as much as we want...but we cannot say what we would have done in the same circumstance. We are also in no place to judge this man...he did what he thought was best....I commend him, and respect him~PERIOD.

 

[CathrynRose]

So if you killed an innocent person during your high speed chase...you would feel that you stil did the right thing?

How many times are you going to ask this?

NO ONE WAS KILLED. NO ONE WAS INJURED. That's that.

What was it a PP said? Something about what is a frog grew wings and bumped it's butt when it hopped?

 

[Piecey]

So.. I haven't been keeping up with this page-to-page... but... I'm married to an OIF/OEF Veteran with PTSD.

When he has an 'episode' there is no controlling him. There is no stopping him. There is no reasoning with him. Given that no one has said that this Seal was in the same type of situation as I'm talking about with my hubby... I still find it amazing, utterly amazing, that this didn't set him into an 'episode'
I still applaud him for having the restraint and control of mind to keep himself as calm as he did, whether I agree with the car chase or not.

People with PTSD snap. Easily.
How are people being so judgemental over the 1 'poor' decision he made when... due to a mental illness that he has thanks to his service to every single one of us.... things could have been much, much worse??

Maybe I'm just more sensitive, dealing with PTSD daily... but I still think he handled the situation amazingly.

 

[chisnpeke]

You're right. I wouldn't have shot him, because I don't have a gun.

I would have chased their butts down, similar to what Marcus did. And I have no high speed chase training.

Frankly, as a HUMAN these punks deserve to rot, and that dog was worth more than all of them put together - and AS A HUMAN, you should kinda sorta understand that? No?

BUT I digress......SHANNON - No, not worth the points. You're right.

 

[yeartolate]

How many times are you going to ask this?

NO ONE WAS KILLED. NO ONE WAS INJURED. That's that.

What was it a PP said? Something about what is a frog grew wings and bumped it's butt when it hopped?

This isn't a frog growing wings issues. Police departments across the country are rethinking the high speed chases because of the fatality issues. Thank you for the snarky reply.

I will repost this statistic.

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, nearly 400 people die nationwide as a result of police chases. Of these fatalities, some were suspects and some were officers. But 30% were pedestrians or civilians in other cars - people who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[Disney Doll]

This is the only rational statment that makes charging Latrell worthwhile.

There's really no room for this kind of vigilantism.

I disagree with you. I think if there were a little more vigilantism in the world, there wouldn't be som many criminals.

 

[Disney Doll]

The worst thing on this thread? Really? So it's ok that people thought he should have just shot and killed all the people in the car? So it's ok to murder 4 people but not to reprimand a person for endangering the lives of innocent bystanders?

It would be fine with me to murder those 4 people. They add nothing to society. Today they're killing dogs, tomorrow it'll be people. And then everyone will wonder 'what happened" and say "we had no way to predict they'd do this".

And since there were no bystanders at 2 am, whose lives was he endangering?

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Nobody can possibly know what they would do under these circumstances. Forget PTSD, forget seal training forget any of that stuff.
Someone comes on to my property, shoots my dog for no reason in cold blood and I'm supposed to think "OH my I should notify law enforcement, it's the right and safe thing to do!". They decided to play with guns, they decided to put peoples lives in danger and if you go onto someones property with a gun you had best realize you are taking your life into your hands
If these same circumstances happened and he had shot them and I'm on the jury? He's taking a walk, no doubt in my mind it was self defense. Remember it only takes 1 person on the jury.
It's so easy to judge after the fact.

 

[DawnCt1]

Nobody can possibly know what they would do under these circumstances. Forget PTSD, forget seal training forget any of that stuff.
Someone comes on to my property, shoots my dog for no reason in cold blood and I'm supposed to think "OH my I should notify law enforcement, it's the right and safe thing to do!". They decided to play with guns, they decided to put peoples lives in danger and if you go onto someones property with a gun you had best realize you are taking your life into your hands
If these same circumstances happened and he had shot them and I'm on the jury? He's taking a walk, no doubt in my mind it was self defense. Remember it only takes 1 person on the jury.
It's so easy to judge after the fact.

Amen!

 

[TCPluto]

It would be fine with me to murder those 4 people. They add nothing to society. Today they're killing dogs, tomorrow it'll be people. And then everyone will wonder 'what happened" and say "we had no way to predict they'd do this".

And since there were no bystanders at 2 am, whose lives was he endangering?

Sweet. You'd only be killing at least two innocent individuals. Judge, jury , and executioner all in one.

This type of justice is what can't be tolerated.

 

[DawnCt1]

The court system will punish the other criminals IF they are proven guilty. Marcus needs counseling!!!! Why aren't you people mad at the military/government for not doing more for Marcus after what he's been through? He'll never forget what happened to him and his friends but after 3 years he should be adapted to civilian life.

The worst thing on this thread? Really? So it's ok that people thought he should have just shot and killed all the people in the car? So it's ok to murder 4 people but not to reprimand a person for endangering the lives of innocent bystanders?

You are comparing four men who entered private property and committed a crime to a young man who responded to that crime and gave chase. There were no "innocent bystanders". It was 2 am on in a very rural area of Texas. You can't compare that area to downtown L.A or suburban Baltimore. There is no comparison, nor do they have the same "cultural sensitivities". If Texas saw the world as you see the world, he would have been arrested. He wasn't.

 

[TCPluto]

Nobody can possibly know what they would do under these circumstances. Forget PTSD, forget seal training forget any of that stuff.
Someone comes on to my property, shoots my dog for no reason in cold blood and I'm supposed to think "OH my I should notify law enforcement, it's the right and safe thing to do!". They decided to play with guns, they decided to put peoples lives in danger and if you go onto someones property with a gun you had best realize you are taking your life into your hands
If these same circumstances happened and he had shot them and I'm on the jury? He's taking a walk, no doubt in my mind it was self defense. Remember it only takes 1 person on the jury.
It's so easy to judge after the fact.

Great call. You might likely only kill two completely innocent people, at least innocent of killing the dog. And likely three, since it would seem that there was only one gun used.

Judging after the fact is exactly what you are doing here. We don't even know if they are in fact the ones who shot the dog. Could they have been in the area and took off when confronted with an armed Latrell? Of course it's possible. That's why we have that thing called a trial.

 

[DawnCt1]

Great call. You might likely only kill two completely innocent people, at least innocent of killing the dog. And likely three, since it would seem that there was only one gun used.

Judging after the fact is exactly what you are doing here. We don't even know if they are in fact the ones who shot the dog. Could they have been in the area and took off when confronted with an armed Latrell? Of course it's possible. That's why we have that thing called a trial.

It seems to me that if they were fleeing for their lives because they were completely innocent and Latrell was the "armed nut case", they would have been the one's on their cell phone making a 12 minute 911 asking for help. Latrell was on the cell phone asking for help, so I don't think "the facts" are going to fall their way.

 

[TCPluto]

You are comparing four men who entered private property and committed a crime to a young man who responded to that crime and gave chase. There were no "innocent bystanders". It was 2 am on in a very rural area of Texas. You can't compare that area to downtown L.A or suburban Baltimore. There is no comparison, nor do they have the same "cultural sensitivities". If Texas saw the world as you see the world, he would have been arrested. He wasn't.

You're completley wrong. You think they didn't pass one single person or car in this??? Really?? Nope, there were plenty of innocent folks encountered in a 40 mile chase. The number is not relevant, one is enough.

This chase happened in public, on public roads.

He wasn't arrested becuase of the bad PR it was worth, nothing more. It was still wrong.

 

[TCPluto]

It seems to me that if they were fleeing for their lives because they were completely innocent and Latrell was the "armed nut case", they would have been the one's on their cell phone making a 12 minute 911 asking for help. Latrell was on the cell phone asking for help, so I don't think "the facts" are going to fall their way.

Only one person was driving, right? Faced with an armed man, flight seems like a reasonable decision.

I don't think the facts will fall their way either. Just making a case for those who continue to state they should have been shot on sight.

How do we know they had a cell phone?

 

[DawnCt1]

Only one person was driving, right? Faced with an armed man, flight seems like a reasonable decision.

I don't think the facts will fall their way either. Just making a case for those who continue to state they should have been shot on sight.

How do we know they had a cell phone?

Then they could have driven to the nearest police station. They weren't fleeing for their lives, they were fleeing from justice and the law.

 

[DawnCt1]

You're completley wrong. You think they didn't pass one single person or car in this??? Really?? Nope, there were plenty of innocent folks encountered in a 40 mile chase. The number is not relevant, one is enough.

This chase happened in public, on public roads.

He wasn't arrested becuase of the bad PR it was worth, nothing more. It was still wrong.

He could have been arrested and charged on the spot. No one knew who he was or his background. As far as anyone knew he was a guy who was chasing bad guys. That is the info that they acted upon; when they dispatched a cruiser and when they encountered him at the arrest stop.