Name 1 thing you think will be better in America if Kerry is elected.

Originally posted by N.Bailey
Well, I don't quite see it the way you do. Chirac certainly doesn't have to do anything that he feels would harm his country in anyway, but to go out and gather support against us? If you're okay with that, good for you, but I think most reasonable Americans don't see it from your prospective at all.

What we found out through this whole ordeal however is, the UN is a joke and they can certainly be bought. Personally, I think it's time the US separated itself from the UN entirely. I doubt that will happen though. Let me ask you this? Do you believe that 1 branch of government can work? If you don't, please explain how one branch of world government can?


Ah, if it's in the best interest of his counrty, yeah, he should oppose the war with any effort he determins appropriate. I believe the French people were against the war, were they not? Sounds to me like Chirac is a president that takes the peoples thoughts into consideration when making decisions. Perhaps w could learn a thing or two from him.

And to suggest that France shouldn't have gathered support for their view is equally outrageous. Doesn't the U.S. do the same thing for their views? Are you telling me that only a U.S. view is a "correct" view??? Sounds kinda slanted to me!

In care you haven't notices, support for this so-called "war" has slipped below 50% even among Americans.

Spain has pulled their troops. Other countries are considering or are doing so as well.

As far as your views on the U.N., far be it from me to tell you what to think. But please, could you post these views on a hugh poster along with a w/cheney slogan and share them with the public somewhere? I know it would make me happy! ::yes::
 
Originally posted by rcyannacci
I'm not offended, and I expected that others would disagree with me on this point. I do feel that your bully analogy is somewhat misplaced considering our own recent military actions. When a leader gives up on diplomacy, I give up on that leader. I look forward to casting my vote this November.

No offense again, but seeing as your from Texas, I highly doubt your vote will matter much.
 
Originally posted by N.Bailey
No offense again, but seeing as your from Texas, I highly doubt your vote will matter much.

That's quite a cynical point of view. Yes, I cast my vote in Texas, and I will vote in honor of those that came before me and fought to give me that right. I will vote in honor of those fighting for me currently, whether I believe in the war or not. I will vote because it is an act of patriotism and optimism. I will vote to reaffirm the belief that my country can be a better place for all of its citizens. And, I will encourage all Texans to do the same.
 
Originally posted by N.Bailey
No offense again, but seeing as your from Texas, I highly doubt your vote will matter much.

Oh my! What an ignorant point of view!

Every vote matters.

Oh, wait... What side of the party line do you fall? Oh, yes. That would explaine your comment!
 

Originally posted by ThreeCircles
Ah, if it's in the best interest of his counrty, yeah, he should oppose the war with any effort he determins appropriate. I believe the French people were against the war, were they not? Sounds to me like Chirac is a president that takes the peoples thoughts into consideration when making decisions. Perhaps w could learn a thing or two from him.

And to suggest that France shouldn't have gathered support for their view is equally outrageous. Doesn't the U.S. do the same thing for their views? Are you telling me that only a U.S. view is a "correct" view??? Sounds kinda slanted to me!

In care you haven't notices, support for this so-called "war" has slipped below 50% even among Americans.

Spain has pulled their troops. Other countries are considering or are doing so as well.

As far as your views on the U.N., far be it from me to tell you what to think. But please, could you post these views on a hugh poster along with a w/cheney slogan and share them with the public somewhere? I know it would make me happy! ::yes::

I believe France should have voted according to their belief and let it up to the other countries to decide what was best for them and not threatened their veto power. Were the other countries not able to come to reasonable conclusions on what was in their best interest without France? So, I ask again, why couldn't Chirac let them decide for themselves??? Sure, the US was trying to encourage everyone to vote for them. This is nothing new when you're trying to get something passed. What France did, is not the same thing. Now, if it would have come down to a vote without Chirac's influence and without veto power being used and more countries would have voted against using force, I'd be all behind you. I think we all know that's not the way the hand played out though. The UN is actually worse than a 1 party government, forget that analogy. I'm sure the majority would rule in 1 party system. It wouldn't be left to one deciding person or nation. What a JOKE!

The fact that this was absolutely unable to get passed the UN simply because of CHIRAC and no one else on the face of the earth, yet this fact fails you. Please, please, please keep in mind that Kerry voted in favor of this war too. Somehow you always seem to forget that.:rolleyes:

Edited to add: Going to go for now ThreeCircles, but I have all the faith in the world that you'll have me something good to respond to the next time I check this thread. :)
 
Originally posted by rcyannacci
That's quite a cynical point of view. Yes, I cast my vote in Texas, and I will vote in honor of those that came before me and fought to give me that right. I will vote in honor of those fighting for me currently, whether I believe in the war or not. I will vote because it is an act of patriotism and optimism. I will vote to reaffirm the belief that my country can be a better place for all of its citizens. And, I will encourage all Texans to do the same.

Well, I am certainly not stating that you should be denied your constitutional rights in anyway. I also think you should get our there and cast your vote no matter what you believe. I'm just saying, Texas ain't going to Kerry.
 
Originally posted by N.Bailey
I believe France should have voted according to their belief and let it up to the other countries to decide what was best for them and not threatened their veto power. Were the other countries not able to come to reasonable conclusions on what was in their best interest without France? So, I ask again, why couldn't Chirac let them decide for themselves??? Sure, the US was trying to encourage everyone to vote for them. This is nothing new when you're trying to get something passed. What France did, is not the same thing. Now, if it would have come down to a vote without Chirac's influence and without veto power being used and more countries would have voted against using force, I'd be all behind you. I think we all know that's not the way the hand played out though. The UN is actually worse than a 1 party government, forget that analogy. I'm sure the majority would rule in 1 party system. It wouldn't be left to one deciding person or nation. What a JOKE!

The fact that this was absolutely unable to get passed the UN simply because of CHIRAC and no one else on the face of the earth, yet this fact fails you. Please, please, please keep in mind that Kerry voted in favor of this war too. Somehow you always seem to forget that.:rolleyes:

Here's a neat little tid-bit of info:

The U.S. has cast more vetoes in the U.N. than all other countries except the U.S.S.R./Russia. Hmmmm... Why don't we let other countries decide issues for themselves?
 
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Originally posted by N.Bailey
Well, I am certainly not stating that you should be denied your constitutional rights in anyway. I also think you should get our there and cast your vote no matter what you believe. I'm just saying, Texas ain't going to Kerry.

Thank you for amending your comments. Every vote matters- thank you ThreeCircles.

Well, I suppose I will just have to do some campaigning in PA when I come back to visit family and friends in State College. See you soon!
 
I'll stick to the OP's request and answer the question without debate -

Right now, the one thing I would see as "better" is that now everyone would have someone new to complain about!:p
 
:confused3 I dunno....that's why I am not voting for him...
 
Everyone will quit talking about Hillary Robbem' (I mean Rodham) Clinton running in 2008.

Dave
 
Originally posted by ThreeCircles
Here's a neat little tid-bit of info:

The U.S. has cast more vetoes in the U.N. than all other countries except the U.S.S.R./Russia. Hmmmm... Why don't we let other countries decide issues for themselves?

Well, I guess this is where we part ways on this thread, because I don't believe that the US should be able to get away with it either.
 
Originally posted by rcyannacci
Thank you for amending your comments. Every vote matters- thank you ThreeCircles.

Well, I suppose I will just have to do some campaigning in PA when I come back to visit family and friends in State College. See you soon!

Hey, this is the exact area I live in. Glad to hear you'll be visiting soon. I'll be running some competition with you here though. I'm signed up locally to run senior citizens (well, Republican ones) to the polls. I wouldn't want them staying home ya know. Pa is one of the swing states for this election and we need all those Republicans out there placing their vote! I plan on doing some work out at our fair too to try to get as many people (Republicans of course) registered as I can. Pa went Republican with Reagan and I think with Bush 41, but it's been a Democrat state since. We gotta change that!
 
All those that have been bashing Bush for months will have someone new to bash very quickly.


For the recored..I'm not sure who for or even if I'm voting this year.......I don't like Kerry...but not sure if I want another 4 years of Bush.
 
Can't think of 1 single benefit to having Kerry elected. Not 1.
 
There will be a huge increase in jobs.....Government jobs.

Any unemployed middle management folks out there with questionable experience and skills will have a virtual cornucopia of employment opportunities.
 
There will be a huge increase in jobs.....Government jobs.

As opposed to that huge decrease in government we've seen under the Bush administration. Oh. Wait...

Any unemployed middle management folks out there with questionable experience and skills will have a virtual cornucopia of employment opportunities.

Yes, because that's clearly a terrible thing, especially compared to the inexperienced group of twenty-something aged republicans being paid the equivalent of six-figure salaries to manage Iraq's budget? Despite the fact that none of them had any foreign service experience, none spoke Arabic, and few of them had any sort of accounting experience at all?

One thing that I think will be better in America if Kerry is elected is that I, and many other women, won't be fearing that our reproductive rights are slowly and systematically being taken away.
 
One thing that I think will be better in America if Kerry is elected is that I, and many other women, won't be fearing that our reproductive rights are slowly and systematically being taken away.

What reproductive rights? You can have a baby whenever you want. That pretty much sounds like having the right of reproduction.
 

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