My Review - Chankanaab Natl Park & 7 Mile Beach

GoofyDisney, thanks so much for this thread, it addresses several specific issues we will deal with beginning Nov 23rd. I have a few more questions. DW, DD9 and myself are all doing the Atlantis sub, so we're delighted to hear it is worthwhile. Your DH went back to the ship for lunch --- how long did that take? I'm trying to decide if we should do the same thing, or find something to eat ashore. We have to be back ashore at 1:30pm for a Captain Marvin's trip. I'd appreciate any advice.

We also intend to go to CNP, and spend the whole day. Is there anything safe to eat or should we bring food? Also, I thought I read about a bird show, too, did you see any info about one? Next can you describe the snorkeling areas? Are they just off-shore from the park, or are their some inland lagoons or caves or what?

Last, I too was not privy to the "run the gauntlet, keep left" thing, so let me see if I've got it right. Get off the ship, walk to the escalator, go up, over, then down, turn left and walk not too much farther until I see more cabs, cabs, cabs. Or, did you cross over only if you wanted to go to C&C or shopping? I apologize if I'm making this harder than it is. But, hey, how often do men ask for directions?

Thanks again.
 
DisneyDarwin - Here goes...I will try and answer everything....

GC Atlantis - DH took the 9-ish sub ride. He was done by 11:30 and back on the ship by noon. We ate lunch at Topsiders and were off to the beach by 12:45 - 1:00 pm. THis gave us plenty of beach time and plenty of time to get back to the ship for sailing. DH really enjoyed the sub. It was large enough that he did not feel 'closed in'. They saw some really beautiful things. He got some great pictures!!!!! According to what we did, we had plenty of time to eat on board and get back off, and this included the time it took to tender back and forth from the ship.

I am not sure if you should eat at CNP or not. Ask crew members what they think. But our servers told us that if we ate in Mexico, to only eat cooked food. No salads, no cold food. Nothing that could have been washed with water. We did not eat at CNP. We ate a large breakfast and took snacks from the ship. We took our own bottled water that we purchased at Publix before we left Port Canaveral, but the guy who went with us bought a good bottle of water at CNP.

I am not sure about a bird show.

The entrie park runs along the water, and there is one path from the entrance of the park to the beach. The actual beach is probably 1/2 mile long (maybe longer, I am terrible at this). There are bathrooms scattered throughout the park including some on the beach. There are three or four equipment stands, three or four food stands. The actual beach part is on top of the rock wall. There are no wade in areas. This reminds me of the southern part of Maui.

The snorkeling areas are fantastic. You walk down rock steps into the water. Snorkeling is RIGHT THERE. The areas that are unsafe for snorkeling are roped off. Otherwise there is a ton to see. There are some diving caves down the beach, but we did not go that far, so I am unable to give you more details. DH said that out a short way you can see a cannon and some huge holes and tons of fish, lots of coral. I didn't go as far as the cannon, there was plenty to see close in. It was a very easy in and out with snorkel equipment, no sand or waves to contend with. And it drops off shortly after the steps, so you aren't having to get yourself out far before you can start snorkeling.

We will probably spend longer at CNP next time. It was one of the highlights of our trip. We saw the Disney excursions, and I am sure people were happy with these, but we found the freedom of the time frame and the ease of doing it on our own to be more worthwhile for us.

I know my directions for what to do when you get off the ship in COz were confusing...It is really easy when I do it in my mind! :p

Yes, if you want to go straight to shopping and C n C, then you take the escalator up and over.

If you want to go to a cab, then you simply get to the end of the cement walkway and take a left and as you said "run the gauntlet'! What a perfect way to describe it!!! And you keep walking left till you hit the cabs.


Let me know if I can answer anything else. I am happy to do so!

P.S. I must add that the people in the cabin next to us did not like CNP as much as we did. I think they were disappointed that they could not see the shows and did not enjoy snorkeling as much. But we are snorklers, and both us and the guy who went with us enjoyed it so much that we would both do it again.
 
The bird show is before the sea lion show. It's not much. The trainers bring out 2 macaws and talk a little bit about them. Then the birds work a small puzzle. When we saw the show, one of the birds got spooked and flew into the water. One of the trainers jumped in to save the bird. That pretty much ended the bird show. Don't know if they normally do much more.
 
GoofyDisney, that was a great response. I hope I am as much help when I get back. I hear CNP gets drowned with cruise tours and some people despise it for that reason. Yet, for those of us with only part of one day, it sounds perfect. We'll see more of the island when we return and can stay longer. I agree that this one is just so easy to do by yourself, why bother with a tour and limit your time? Thanks again.

Jasmine, now I'm going to have to spend the rest of my day getting this ridiculous image of a man trying to save a drowning macaw out of my head. Too funny.
 

We are set to go on the Western Magic 3-28-03. We have two children ages 6 yrs old and 11.5 months old at the time of the cruise. Could you tell me what you thought of these two excursions with an 11.5 month old?? Is there enough shade for a little one? Are these places that you need a stroller? We are already concerned about not having access to the pools for our little guy because he won't be potty trained and we don't know how easily we will be able to navigate the port locations once we choose to get off. Are these locations infant friendly?? We are actually thinking about cancelling and waiting until he is potty trained so I will look forward to see what you think.
Thanks in advance:)
Kathy
 
I know I can be long winded, but I am just trying to cover EVERY SINGLE DETAIL!!! :)

DisneyDarwin - THanks. I am really glad I could be helpful. I relied on someone's info to get me around these ports so I am glad to give a little back.

And there were other cruise ship people on the beach while we were there. We did not feel crowded and the snorkeling areas were not clouded up because of three reasons, 1. the water is deep enough not to have the sand kicked up and cloud the water, 2. there was never a time it felt crowded even with the DCL excursion people and the people from other ships. 3. The park is large enough to disperse people.

I grew up at Hwy 6 and Bellaire, and still go back to visit my parents several times a year! My license plate says NTVTEXN! I am a Texan through and through!!!

indymom1 - We did CNP on our own, and not through an excursion. Not only does DCL not offer many excursions that allow for little ones, but we didn't want to be constrained by the tours that did. So we did both 7 mile and CNP on our own. OUr DD is 3, and we found both sites to be good for little ones. Both 7 mile and CNP had restrooms and bottled water accessible. On 7 mile, the chairs were free, but no umbrellas.

CNP had numerous straw umbrellas. We brought along our Neat Sheet, (which we always travel with) and if we had needed it, which we didn't, there are plenty of shady areas aside from the straw umbrellas that would have been perfect to toss down our Neat SHeet and lay down in a shady area. Perfect for babies I think. I would not have taken a baby into the water here though. You walk down the stone steps into the water, and the steps are slippery and you don't walk out too far before the sand drops off. If your 6 year old swims and even snorkels I would do this. THe water is clear and there are no waves or currents to contend with. I saw several parents snorkeling with their children. DH and I take turns on the beach. We snorkel one at a time. We believe in buddy snorkeling, but in this case, the water is clear and snorkeling is great close enough to shore to watch the other one snorkel. So, I made sand castles with my DD while DH snorkeled and likewise. She was perfectly happy. We were perfectly happy.

Stroller - most of the park has cement walk ways. There is a cement pathway around the fake ruins and agricultural tour area. Then of course there is sand. So, I think a stroller would be convenient for getting to and from the beach and around the park. Then you can carry it onto the sand.

I would think the port locations are friendly enough for kids, except for the cab rides. You will just want to hold on tight to your little one. We strolled our 3 yr old around when we went shopping and such in the afternoon at Coz. We only did 7 mile and the Hard Rock at GC, and the HR is right there at the tender station.

And as I tell everyone, when asked what to take on a disney cruise, take twice the amount of money, film and SUNSCREEN that you need!!! I stress the sunscreen!!!

The Western tour is a great way to handle needing to stay away from the pools. There is so much to do, and you have one less sea day to contend with.

Here is a little extra info about traveling with little ones and Flounders Reef that I usually post when someone asks...I will add this since you have a little one...

>>>When we first cruised our DD was 2 yr 4 mos.

She loved to go to Shutters to look at the pictures. She loved seeing the shows.

Next time I would be more diligent about going down to greet the characters. BIG TIP: Especially on formal nights (and especially the second formal
night) go down dressed for pictures a full HOUR before dinner. If you are early, the lines wil be short and you will have a better chance of getting a good picture. The second formal night, everyone on the ship has figured this out and is down there early. And the photographers will be happy to use your camera to get a family photo of you after they take their professional picture. But we did buy several of their pictures anyway!

We liked Flounders Reef. Our DD is not in daycare, so the closest thing we can compare it to was church nursery.

The Reef: There is a small waiting room out front with a split door to the nursery and a large porthole with one-way glass so you can come and peek anytime without getting caught.

The first room is large and brightly colored. There is a tv always playing Disney movies. Some rocking chairs, some pads and soft chairs on the floor for the kids. There is a bookshelf with lots of books. There are tons of toys, though they tend to be aimed at the younger children (understandable). The changing table is right out in the open, and CMs wear gloves to change diapers. There is a a large play area. Then there is a smaller, back tv room with some rocking chairs and another tv so, as was the case with our DD, kids who didn't want to sleep, but just wanted to veg out and watch tv in a quiet area, could do so.

Then there is the crib room, for children who go to sleep while being rocked by CM, fall asleep on the mats watching movies, or its nap time.

When we were there, the child to CM ratio was 2:1 sometimes even 2:4. It just depends.

The trick is to be at the Reef door when it first opens on Saturday. (If not open yet, go ahead and form line along the wall.) Then when you can go in, book every single night. And then cancel as you do not use it. Just make sure you know the cancellation policy and remember to make the call! You may not get every time you request, but they call you everyday to confirm the next day if they are expecting you.

Also, when we were on the ship, there were no Reef times that coincided with Palos brunch on days at sea. This is no longer the case! Sunday, before they dock at Key West, is the only day that you can put your child in FR and go to Brunch. Take advantage of this and don't miss brunch.

M.M.'s Magical Guide talks about the nursery and how safe it is as far as no one being to be alone with your child without being noticed and about the background checks and training on Reef staff. http://hometown.aol.com/entropym/pages/index.htm

They give you a pager. They are SUPER diligent about paging you if your child needs you. We appreciated this. One time, our DD started asking for us. They were seconds away from paging us when she got interested in something else. But I appreciated them telling us this, and them being willing to page us just cause she wanted us.

We took our umbrella stroller on the cruise. When not in use it was folded up in the closet, but otherwise, we took it everywhere. It really helped when it came to not wanting to wear DD out!

CAN'T MISS: Make sure you get a wake up call every morning! You just dial it into the phone and when it rings, it is Mickey Mouse calling to get you out of bed! This was one of DDs favorite things to do was answer the phone and have it be Mickey Mouse who was calling her. We ended up doing it several times even after we were all awake. We just dialed in 7:45, 8:00, etc. She loved it!

Any other questions? Let me know!
Have a great cruise!>>>>

I am happy to answer anything else you might want to know!
Karen
 
I'm not a native Texan (I was born in Florida), but I got here as fast as I could...age 10. I'm sitting 20 floors up in downtown Houston, as I write this. I currently live on the northside, used to live off 59 and Gessner, and I have relatives out in Sugarland, not that far from your parents. It's a small world after all.
 
Is Chankanaab Park wheelchair accessible?

thanks
 
GoofyDisney

Thanks very much for the detailed directions (I always appreciate the details on the boards for planning!) and the additional info on the further posts. I've printed off this entire thread for my wife and kids for planning our day to CNP. Appreciate the time you took.

Dave in the Frozen North
 
I really am glad that I could be helpful...I get so much from the boards and from people's sites....I really researched this topic before I left. So, I was happy to be able to bring back some important information.

tbuot - GOod question. I am sorry to say that I have no idea. I did not pay attention to this particular aspect. Maybe someone will read this thread, and go to CNP, and come back and report to us.

DisneyDarwin - then you are currently in one of my fav places! (Downtown Houston!) GO TEXANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. For all those wondering, our cab driver told us Chankanaab means "little sea".

Any more questions??? Keep'em coming!!!
 
Dave (in the Frozen North) -

Your description of how cold it is up there (it's currently 19° F with a forecast low tonight of 10° F) led me to learn a little bit more about Cochrane. It seems that most of the Canucks on this board live within about 100 miles of Toronto, but Cochrane is really up there. I'm assuming you fly out of the Timmins airport? According to their web site, Timmins gets more snow annually than most other Canadian cities... have you ever had a problem flying out of there for your January escapes?

As far as the darkness... it looks like you get just 8+ hours of daylight there on December 21. Orlando, by contrast, gets 10+ hours of daylight. No wonder you need to escape to Florida in the wintertime.

(Of course, I'd like to enjoy the 16+ hours of daylight that you get on June 21!)

- Dave (from Marietta)
 
First off, you are so nice to give us all such great detailed info.

Now for more questions, I know I may be getting a bit neurotic but regarding 7 mile and the Holiday Inn beach...is this a public beach or do we have to pretend that we are guests at the hotel? My luck someone would ask us and I would get kicked off...i told you I am being neurotic. Secondly, I get that the chairs are free but, that seems strange for a public beach I am a native Floridian and I have never seen free chairs. I guess that is what makes me wonder if this beach is for hotel guests.

My wheelchair question, my mother in law has really bad knees so we have rented one for her for the trip. She wants to do the Chankanaab excursion with us so, I am wondering if the park has paved paths or is it rock, gravel and sand? She can get out of the chair enough for us to move it up stairs or through short unpaved paths but if the majority of the park is not paved then maybe she couldn't come. I am also wondering for my umbrella stroller...did you find the park stroller friendly.

Once again...you are so nice to answer all of these questions
 
7 Mile -
Good find mcnuss!

This was a concern for me as well. But I found that the beach was open to the public. There were more than enough chairs to go around. Off to the north of the jet ski stand were lounge chairs with pads and umbrellas. I assumed these were for the hotel guests or for purchase. But the chairs we were on seemed open to anyone. And no one came around checking if you were with the hotel. No one ever asked us to pay for using them or asked us to leave. We actually never even saw anyone who looked like they were there to do anything but enjoy the beach. (No collared shirts.) (We found this same thing when we were in Hawaii. All beaches are public, and some hotels would put chairs out and anyone could use them, seriously. We never experienced anything different.)

CNP -

When the cabs pull up to the building, there are stairs up to the entrance. I did not notice if there were ramps. There are only 5 or 6 steps, so that if your MIL can get up a few stairs, then this should be fine.

The paths around the parks are cement walkways. There is some sand on them the closer you get to the beach, obvioulsy, but there are cement pathways throughout. So, maybe if your MIL doesn't want to do the beach, she can tool around the agricultural paths or go by the fake ruins. There are steps here and there, but if she can navigate around these, it might not be a problem. Same with the stroller. In this case, I would say that the park is stroller friendly and partially wheelchair friendly. I did not look for ramps, so maybe someone will read this and say if they noticed any.

But, when you get to the end of the path and you want to go onto the beach, you have to walk about 50 yds in the sand before you get to the first set of stone steps.

Thanks, I am happy to do it.

P.S. We are in Northern Michigan....it is practically frozen here!!!!
 
Hey Dave from Marietta!

This is obviously an off-topic aside from GoofyDisney's thread but I must say I'm impressed that you took the time to locate our lonely outpost up here.

We're another 80 miles north of Timmins - and we usually have a bit more snow than them (but after we hit the four or five feet mark by mid-January - nobody really cares who has more, except the snowmobilers). Although there are many DIS Canucks who reside farther north than us we have the good fortune of living within the shadow of the Hudson's Bay Lowlands - which accounts for our great frozen northern weather.

In answer to your question, indeed, getting out of Timmins is always my biggest paranoia when heading out on the WDW/Cruise vacation. I posted on this topic a while back. We always leave 2 to 3 days before our cruise date in January to guard against unpredictable bad weather shut downs. We almost got stranded the one year. This leaves us enough time for the day's drive to Toronto to catch the flight to Orlando in a worst-case scenario.

It indeed quite neat when we have the long long daylight hours in summer. I get a kick out of working in my garden in June (if the skitters and blackflies aren't chasing me in) until 10:00 or so. BUT when January rolls around and I'm getting up and going to work in the frozen dark and coming home in the frozen dark - it isn't so neat!. My wife says I suffer from SAD - Seasonal Affective Disorder due to the lack of sunlight in the winter months. I just call it COLF-W Disorder (Crabby Over Long Frozen Winters). Isn't hard to understand why we run away to your neck of the woods in January and February!!

Please let me take the opportunity to tell you what a great DCL site you have Dave! I've been reading your posts through the years and in getting ready for our cruise- I have gone through your most-excellent site info. I really appreciated the new Western Cruise Navigators in word format. I downloaded them, printed, and the whole family has read them. One of your shots of the Magic is currently our background.

Thanks for all your hard work Dave.

Dave in the Frozen North
 
Originally posted by Dave in the Frozen North

Please let me take the opportunity to tell you what a great DCL site you have Dave! I've been reading your posts through the years and in getting ready for our cruise- I have gone through your most-excellent site info. I really appreciated the new Western Cruise Navigators in word format. I downloaded them, printed, and the whole family has read them. One of your shots of the Magic is currently our background.

Thanks for all your hard work Dave.

Dave in the Frozen North

Ditto!!!!!!!!!!! Ditto!!!!!!!!!!! Ditto!!!!!!!!!!! Ditto!!!!!!!!!!! Ditto!!!!!!!!!!! Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by Dave in the Frozen North

This is obviously an off-topic aside from GoofyDisney's thread
Yeah, sorry 'bout that. I love your marvelously descriptive screen name and I was so surprised to hear that it was so cold already this early in November.


When January rolls around and I'm getting up and going to work in the frozen dark and coming home in the frozen dark - it isn't so neat!. My wife says I suffer from SAD - Seasonal Affective Disorder due to the lack of sunlight in the winter months.
Oh, I think that's <i><b>entirely</b></i> possible and likely. I did some work in Boston a few years ago and I <b><i>hated</i></b> the fact that it was pitch-dark by 4:30. It doesn't seem right to get up in the dark and go home in the dark. But I bought a sunrise simulator clock which I used in the winter time. You've probably heard of them. But I have used it and it really works. We also used it with our DS5 when he was getting up and going out to the school bus in the dark back before the time changed. It worked well for him too. Lots of merchants sell them, but here's one that's sells to Canadian customers...

www.clicshop.com/Magasin/northernlightca/c28937p9642410.2.html


Isn't hard to understand why we run away to your neck of the woods in January and February!
Oh, you definitely need to head further south than Marietta. We're an 8-hour drive north of Orlando, and while we rarely get snow, we get four distinct seasons here and it can get pretty cold in the wintertime. On the other hand, it's not <b><i>so</i></b> cold that we <b><i>need</i></b> to escape to warmer climes in the wintertime like our friends further north.


Please let me take the opportunity to tell you what a great DCL site you have Dave!
Well, thanks, Dave! And please allow me the opportunity to tell you what a fine writer you are. I have really enjoyed the essays of yours that have been published on <a href="http://www.wdwinfo.com/"><font color=blue>wdwinfo.com</font></a>. I have a link to one of them on my links page, and I've copied a link to one them several times on these boards.


I really appreciated the new Western Cruise Navigators in word format. I downloaded them, printed, and the whole family has read them.
I'm glad you found that useful. I got the idea to provide that option based on a suggestion on the DIS boards.
 
You mentioned $4 @ Holiday Inn. What for? What does Holiday Inn have that say Hyatt doesn't since the Hyatt area has good snorkeling? We have our own snorkeling gear. IS it worth bringing it to CNP? There have been different reports of the CNP beach. Could you give deatil of beach condition? You thread has been super helpful as it is inline with our itinerary.
 

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