My kids are such "model citizens".....

[lynn71092]

I am so sorry Not So Dumbo that this has turned on you like it has. I understand what you were trying to say and somehow it's gotten all turned around. Just think happy Disney thoughts and ignore the criticism.

 

[MonicaInFlorida]

You are still not getting that whole "analogy" thing, are you?

Or is it that you can't deal with someone who has an opinion different than your own. The internet, by nature, is like that.

I don't always agree with Crisi, but she is a bright, to the point poster whom I respect. You, btw, were not exactly the picture of social grace, in case you haven't read your own post.

If she had stuck with:

My grandmother was always into clothes and jewelry and makeup. I was a little bit of a tomboy and really was never into those things. She "shared" her passion with me - but she wasn't interested in ME, she wanted ME to be interested in her - and thought I was ungrateful for not sharing her passion. But she certainly never had any gratitude for the effort I did make.

My husband, in one of those stupid guy moments, bought me a joystick for OUR computer so I could play video games. To his credit, he thought I might actually LIKE flight simulator (I didn't - he did). It was his lesson in "people aren't grateful if you give them things because YOU want them."

Then fine. No big deal. It was adding:

Disney isn't about your kids for you, its about you for you....why should they be grateful for something YOU want. I get petulant just reading your posts ti this thread, and I'm a grown up who likes Disney and doesn't have to travel with you.

that made it nasty and personal. You don't post malicious, petulant (her words, not mine) crud like that and expect to get a free pass. If you're going to be vicious and offensive, then you can hardly be shocked if someone calls you on it.

 

[carj]

I agree that after 3 trips, and at the ages of your children, it seems strange that they are "over" Disney already.

Here are my thoughts.
1. Our children can certainly help plan aspects of our vacation, lives, etc...but they don't get to always choose. We are the parents. So I don't think that it is killing your kids to go to Disney if that is where you want to go. There are worse fates in life!

2. Our kids don't get every little thing either but there are decidedly unappreciative of some things. We go out to eat a lot because my husband and I enjoy it. The kids would rather stay home. Sometimes though, especially in the summer, I need a break! If I have taken them to the water park, let them have friends over and endured kid DVDs all day, then they can behave at CHillis for and hour and smile about it.

3. We have friends whose kids really don't like to go anywhere! I don't get it. While I think that desire should be honored sometimes, that really isn't how life is. You don't always get to choose where and when you go somewhere.

With all that said, ,we just went on our first trip to Disney. The kids LOVED it and we would all go back tomorrow. If they hadn't loved it, I would be inclined to not go again for a long time. I just wouldn't want to spend the money to go on a family trip to somewhere that they didn't like.

Maybe the problem is that you have gone too many times in a short time period? Maybe your kids just aren't into it?

Good luck. Every kid does something that totally mystefies his parents. (And lots of kids are not appropriately grateful in all situations.)

 

[noodleknitter]

If she had stuck with:



Then fine. No big deal. It was adding:



that made it nasty and personal. You don't post malicious, petulant (her words, not mine) crud like that and expect to get a free pass. If you're going to be vicious and offensive, then you can hardly be shocked if someone calls you on it.

She "called" the OP on her tone. You did the same. The difference is...what again? You didn't say how her post made you feel (as Crisi did) you just diagnosed (your degree comes from what U.?) and were sarcastic.

 

[MonicaInFlorida]

She "called" the OP on her tone. You did the same. The difference is...what again? You didn't say how her post made you feel (as Crisi did) you just diagnosed (your degree comes from what U.?) and were sarcastic.

OK, she's sarcastic, I'm sarcastic and you're sarcastic.

You want to know how it made me feel? Really? OK, here goes... I don't like bullies who take their frustrations out on people who have nothing to do with the situation. I've seen bosses, relatives and ex-boyfriends pull this nonsense. Not only on me, but on any other people who had the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's patently unfair to the recipient of the vitriol to have to take the heat for something they didn't do.

 

[lilybrooke14]

Do you do the same things on your trip every year? If you haven't already, they'd probably enjoy a day at Disney Quest or perhaps even (gasp) Universal or SeaWorld. Maybe they're just getting tired of seeing princesses and Mickey Mouse.

 

[perkinsrose]

I don't know how they got this way, I certainly didn't incourage it and wish I could stop it. Lord, knows how hard I've tried, but it goes in one ear and out the other.

We've been to Disney 3 times. The first time they were happy to go, but the next two they weren't grateful at all to be there. In fact, they complained a couple of times about having to go.
This bothered me but not the extent it does now, after the conversation I had with the neighbor girl.
Earlier this year we had a family move in nextdoor, they are a single parent family and moved from the inner-city. The neighbor girl came over to play with my kids and after a while she came to sit by me in the garage. While we were sitting there she spotted a large plastic WDW bag that was now being used as a storage bag for some fake flowers. She gasped and said, you all got to go to Disney world? I said yes,(didn't tell her that is was our 3rd trip) we went in May. Her eyes lit up and she said, Did you all get to see the big castle? I said yes and she asked if we got to see the big bed and apartment. I told her no, but we were able to walk through the castle. The conversation went on for a bit longer, but the point that struck me was that she was so excited that she knew someone that got to go to Disney world and here my kids are to the point that the excitment of going to Disney World is that of maybe going to the local park for the day.
I swear, if something doesn't change, I'm going to leave them home and take her instead. Okay, vent over. Anyone expierencing a simular situation, or are my kids the only "model citizens" at WDW?

Oh! Breaks my heart. I wish every child could experience the magic at least once!

 

[noodleknitter]

OK, she's sarcastic, I'm sarcastic and you're sarcastic.

You want to know how it made me feel? Really? OK, here goes... I don't like bullies who take their frustrations out on people who have nothing to do with the situation. I've seen bosses, relatives and ex-boyfriends pull this nonsense. Not only on me, but on any other people who had the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's patently unfair to the recipient of the vitriol to have to take the heat for something they didn't do.

Oh, please. It seems you are taking your feelings and blowing them out all over everyone. Vitriol? Give me a break. You are no different than the person you are criticizing. Pure and simple.

 

[MonicaInFlorida]

Oh, please. It seems you are taking your feelings and blowing them out all over everyone. Vitriol? Give me a break. You are no different than the person you are criticizing. Pure and simple.

You asked me for my reasons. The OP didn't ask for crisi's, crisi just went off on her.

Taking 3 young children to WDW is not the same as having your spirit slowly and inexorably crushed by a grandmother who doesn't appreciate you for who you are. They're completely different situations.

 

[noodleknitter]

The kids are bored with Disney. The person who is crushed is the momma. At least in the analogy we are talking of a child's impression, rather than an adult's reaction.

Frankly, I feel bad for her kids. I'd have hated it if someone "ruined" Disney for me.

Justifying your attack and rudeness doesn't make it go away.

LOL, bailing on this one now. Have a good one!

 

[MonicaInFlorida]

Justifying your attack and rudeness doesn't make it go away.

And justifying crisi's attack and rudeness doesn't make it go away, either.

LOL, bailing on this one now. Have a good one!

LOL, you too!!

 

[jodifla]

OP, you're entitled to go to WDW and have a good time. It IS about you. You and DH get to have fun too, so if they kids don't want to go, well, they should understand it's your turn to pick what they do. Everybody in the family gets a turn; it shouldn't always be about the kids.


It would be different if they had a burning desire to go someplace and you werent' going there, but since they don't, well, they can chill out at WDW instead of at home. There are far worse things in life.

I will say I've not run into any child who was done with WDW in one trip. It seems really unusual.

 

[crisi]

Taking 3 young children to WDW is not the same as having your spirit slowly and inexorably crushed by a grandmother who doesn't appreciate you for who you are. They're completely different situations.

Who in the (fill in the blank) said my spirit was slowing and inexorably crushed by my grandmother!!!! Wow! Talk about projection!

 

[MonicaInFlorida]

Who in the (fill in the blank) said my spirit was slowing and inexorably crushed by my grandmother!!!! Wow! Talk about projection!

My grandmother was always into clothes and jewelry and makeup. I was a little bit of a tomboy and really was never into those things. She "shared" her passion with me - but she wasn't interested in ME, she wanted ME to be interested in her - and thought I was ungrateful for not sharing her passion. But she certainly never had any gratitude for the effort I did make.

It sure sounds to me like she was crushing your spirit.

 

[crisi]

It sure sounds to me like she was crushing your spirit.

Cool for you. That isn't what I perceive, and since I was there I'm guessing I'm a better judge , but you can go ahead and continue your psychoanalysis of strangers over the internet off four sentence statements if it amuses you.

 

[MonicaInFlorida]

Cool for you. That isn't what I perceive, and since I was there I'm guessing I'm a better judge , but you can go ahead and continue your psychoanalysis of strangers over the internet off four sentence statements if it amuses you.

Heh, kind of like you were doing to Not So Dumbo, comparing her to your ungrateful grandmother.

Y'know, I've kind of started to feel sorry for you, and I can't argue with people I feel bad for. It's kind of like kicking a puppy. I wish you the best, and have a nice day!

 

[crisi]

I wish you the best, and have a nice day!

You too!

 

[noodleknitter]

My, miss monica, you sure have brought such joy to the boards in the whole 2 weeks you've been here.

Or are just another banned poster returning to be "fussy?"

 

[MonicaInFlorida]

My, miss monica, you sure have brought such joy to the boards in the whole 2 weeks you've been here.

Thanks!

Or are just another banned poster returning to be "fussy?"

Nope, just been lurking since Dec.

 

[perkinsrose]

My, miss monica, you sure have brought such joy to the boards in the whole 2 weeks you've been here.

Or are just another banned poster returning to be "fussy?"

shouldn't someone who's been here for thousands of posts know better than to engage in "fighting", sarasm & personal attacks??