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[FloraFauna]

Hello again everyone. I introduced myself a few pages back. I just finished Half Blood Prince. Now all I have to do is start at the beginning of your thread and get caught up. See ya'll soon.

p.s. I just wanted to say that I LOVED Order of the Phoenix. I wasn't prepared to be so emotionally hit hard by the final chapters. I cried when Sirius died. My DS15 who loves HP asked me if I was okay, I said yes. Then a few pages later Harry finds the mirrors Sirius gave him and tries to call him, I started crying all over again. I am 40 years old, this should not happen to me.

 

[poohbear919]

p.s. I just wanted to say that I LOVED Order of the Phoenix. I wasn't prepared to be so emotionally hit hard by the final chapters. I cried when Sirius died. My DS15 who loves HP asked me if I was okay, I said yes. Then a few pages later Harry finds the mirrors Sirius gave him and tries to call him, I started crying all over again. I am 40 years old, this should not happen to me.

OotP is one of my favorites too - I can't wait to see it on the big screen this summer! Don't worry about the crying, we all need a good cry every once in awhile - and why not cry over the death of a much beloved character... I was right there with you, just with a bit less life experience...

 

[va32h]

This was all the way on page 10, so I had to save it from oblivion.

On the Leaky Cauldron, they are running a prediction contest for Deathly Hallows. You have to answer several quizzes about what you think will happen, and there will be prizes for the most correct answers.

The first 100 (yep, the first ONE HUNDRED) questions are up now. Plus, they have updates on the Knight Bus tour that is visiting libraries, and more rumors of a Harry Potter Theme Park in Orlando.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I have several ideas along this line....

Of course all this relies on you believing that Snape has been working for DD all along.

Fantastic reasoning! Very plausible explanation for the series of events that lead to end of HBP. It reads like a backstory outline...and a closer reading of the text does support a lot of these ideas. I think first year Potions class is referenced yet again (along the lines of the Bezors and wolfsbane) with Snape magically "doctoring" DD's hand.

I think, because I still don't know if Snape is good or bad, I'm having a hard time accepting that DD sacrificed himself by planning his own murder to spare Draco, give Snape a better cover among Death Eaters, and generally further the fight against V. From a literary standpoint, I do not believe DD is a Christ-figure (and even JKR has said that DD is not Jesus) so it is hard for me to accept his death in this way.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I found this icon online and thought it was appropriate because, as of today, we're three months from the OOtP movie!

Feel free to swipe it!

 

[LadyBears]

I found this icon online and thought it was appropriate because, as of today, we're three months from the OOtP movie!

Feel free to swipe it!

Don't mind if I do! Thanks!

 

[TurboKitty]

I have been re-reading the first book. Well, actually I got my hands on a copy of Philospher's Stone, a British version and have been having a grand time with it. Loads of glorious forshadowing. I also gotta say, calling him "the boy who lived" in my mind bodes very well to Harry's surviving the last book. It would be beyond cruel to kill him off after giving him a nomenclature like that.

On page 17, I noticed, Albus Dumbledore talking about Harry and his scar,
"Even if I could, I wouldn't. Scars can come in useful. I have a one myself above my left knee which is a perfect map of the London Underground. Well- give him here, Hagrid - we'd better get this over with."

Makes my mind wonder...how might Harry's scar turn out to be useful, could there be another way besides the whole pain when evil is near thing?

 

[pokemon_master]

I liked to read the books with my dad when I was younger. However, I forgot half the book afterwards..

Thank goodness for movies..

 

[mommylicious]

Fun fun! A HP thread! YEA!

And I also agree that DD's portrait and penseive will come into play to help Harry.

I think not only will the portrait and pensive come into play but so will the Mirror of Erised from book 1. I want to say I read an interview with JKR from one of the earlier books where she said we would see the mirror again at some point. I could be wrong though; I may be thinking of the mirror Sirius gave to Harry.

 

[The_Horned_King]

Fun fun! A HP thread! YEA!



I think not only will the portrait and pensive come into play but so will the Mirror of Erised from book 1. I want to say I read an interview with JKR from one of the earlier books where she said we would see the mirror again at some point. I could be wrong though; I may be thinking of the mirror Sirius gave to Harry.

You are correct she did say that in an interview after OOTP. I've long thoght that Sirius isn't dead but simply trapped on the other side! (so technically dead) Remember that the ministry was trying to work on a way to travel to the other side and back...well I think the tarp that he fell into after gettign stunned(I don't think it was the killing curse) was that bridge, but so fa it's only one way!

So useing the mirror to reach him could be a fun way to have harry be able to talk with those from the past Sirius, DD, and his parents and get their help in defeating Voldermort!

 

[ZephyrHawk]

Hah! Knew I'd find a HP thread on here eventually!

 

[Kycha]

I don't believe that Sirius is dead either. The manner in which he "died" was so casual. He just slipped through a curtain. I imagined that Sirius would go out in a blaze of glory taking as many of the enemy with him as he could. So, his "death" never rang true to me.

 

[poohbear919]

So useing the mirror to reach him could be a fun way to have harry be able to talk with those from the past Sirius, DD, and his parents and get their help in defeating Voldermort!

I will also jump on the wagon of not thinking Sirius is dead either... I question the use of the mirror though (at least whether Sirius will be able to use it...) I know Rowling has said that it will turn up again, however I just finished re-reading OotP and Harry tries to call Sirius on it after he learns what it is - and there's no reply. Perhaps as Harry thinks Sirius didn't have the mirror with him when he fell through the veil... I think it'll be interesting to find out whether he did or not and if he didn't - the it'll be awesome to find out who does have the mirror now!

 

[va32h]

Well, I definitely think Sirius is dead - really dead. Here are some of Jo's own words on the topic:

Yeah. Well I had re-written the death, re-written it and that was it. It was definitive. And the person was definitely dead. And I walked into the kitchen crying and Neil said to me, 'What on earth is wrong?' and I said, 'Well, I've just killed the person.' Neil doesn't know who the person is. But I said, 'I've just killed the person.' And he said, 'Well, don't do it then.' I thought, 'a doctor' you know ... and I said 'Well it just doesn't work like that. You are writing children's books, you need to be a ruthless killer.'"

- BBC interview 2003

I have been repeatedly told Sirius was my favourite character, why did he have to die? You can imagine how bad that makes me feel and in fact after I killed Sirius I went on the Internet and somehow stumbled across a fansite devoted entirely to Sirius and I killed him in the last 48 hours, so that wasn't good.
I think you will realise why he had to go in terms of plot when you read the seventh book. It wasn't arbitrary although part of the answer is the one I have given before. It is more satisfying I think for the reader if the hero has to go on alone and to give him too much support makes his job too easy, sorry.

ITV interview 2005

That doesn't mean we won't see Sirius again - maybe Harry does have to journey to the afterlife and Sirius helps him there. But I do think Sirius is definitely and permanently dead.

 

[FayeW]

I admit I have not read this entire thread, so please forgive me if this has been mentioned already, BUT...there is a topic on the Universal sub-board about Universal currently in the process of finishing up negotiations with JK Rowling and Warner Bros to acquire the rights to HP, and for rides/shows/attractions, etc at Universal Orlando. WOO HOO!

 

[mommylicious]

maybe Harry does have to journey to the afterlife and Sirius helps him there.

That's where I think the mirror of Erised may come into play. It shows your heart's truest desire. I think Harry will find it and be able to see himself having a conversation with Dumbledore or with Sirius etc.

 

[Sirius]

Well I'm not dead, but I have a feeling Sirius is gone. Sir Nicholas says that Sirius will have "gone on." Lupin tells Harry that Sirius is dead (although he never actually says dead). What's the point of the Death Chamber anyway? Why have a dais with this archway on it if it were not for some form of "execution"? Are Luna and Harry the only ones who hear voices beyond the veil?

Maybe, like the Floo Network, you come out somewhere else.

Oh, well. That's enough of that.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

There are a lot of unanswered questions about death and the afterlife in HP. While the way Sirius went is unique, I don't think we'll see him join the land of the living again. The book cover could support the idea that Harry journeys past the veil; if you look at it like a stage, with the curtains framing H and V and the different arches in the background. And I believe JKR when she says the way he went is very important plot-wise.

And on a completely different subject, here is some fodder for all you GoodSnape theorists. This is a theory I heard on the latest episode of Mugglecast.

When Prof. Trelawny was giving the prophecy to Dumbledore during her interview she begins with "The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches..." and pauses before describing the baby. The theory is that DD's brother and Snape were approaching the room at the time (Aberforth having caught Snape eavesdropping) and the pause makes this important because it could have been Aberforth or Snape or the baby being described. It is JKR's style to foreshadow like that. (OOtP p.841)

While this is an interesting theory, I don't know if I'd buy into it mostly because it could would be narrative misdirection and JKR has avoided that thus far. Also, DD gives little value to prophecies. But it is an interesting line of thought and opens up a bunch of new ideas about GoodSnape. Thoughts?

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Less than three months! Woo!

 

[va32h]

When Prof. Trelawny was giving the prophecy to Dumbledore during her interview she begins with "The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches..." and pauses before describing the baby. The theory is that DD's brother and Snape were approaching the room at the time (Aberforth having caught Snape eavesdropping) and the pause makes this important because it could have been Aberforth or Snape or the baby being described. It is JKR's style to foreshadow like that. (OOtP p.841)

But the very next line of the prophecy is "Born as the seventh month dies, born to parents who have thrice defied him". We don't know Snape or Aberforth's birthdays, or even if they were alive to defy Voldemort at all, much less three times.

Anyway - I am bumping this because there is a new trailer for the OoTP movie and it is AMAZING!

Go to the Leaky Cauldron site for the link. I am so excited. July is going to be an incredible month.