More from the war on birth control!

[nwdisgal]

Let us look at it another way...since slippery slope arguments are all the rage in this thread. So first govt can force private companies to cover bc pills. What is next govt forcing women to take them or forcing abortions or regulating how many kids you can have because they don't want so many people living here. These statements sound just as ridiculous as those thinking we are going to slip down the other side. A hill usually has two sides. If you feel govt should have control over private companies then don't ***** and moan so much when they try to take over private citizen decisions. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Should the govt ban safe birth control....nope not its place to make such decisions for my family. Should the govt force private enterprises to cover birth control....nope not its place to make such decisions for a company. I always find it funny how people want govt to be in sooo much control over companies but balk at them even thinking about taking control from an individual.

I am all of the above. I don't want the government in my bedroom or my boardroom, so what does that make me.

 

[Mskanga]

As long as we have people thinking that BCP's are only to prevent pregnancy and they decide to not offer it because it's against their religious belief , this problem will never cease. When those people start believing that there are medical reasons why people take them as well , perhaps they will change their view .
And when it comes to medical care , the decisions should be left on the individual , not the government , not the employer or the insurance company. Imagine if people that work for a jehova witness ( and I am using that as an example ) were told their insurance company won't pay for blood transfusions if needed......

 

[JudicialTyranny]

Oh please. Playing the Race Card to defend not covering the pill....I've heard EVERYTHING now.

Margaret Sanger was a wonderful woman who wanted to help the poor. I consider her a hero. She would have done the same thing if she was black, brown, red, whatever.
It was many, many decades later that some bitter people of certain minorites decided to twist her good deeds into some kind racial genocide. I guess its easier to blame "The Man" (or "The Woman" in this case) than to take responsiblity for your own problems within your race.

You can believe that, but she did have racist views (i.e. her "Negro Project"). unPlanned Parenthood and the left wing women's groups have tried to revise and whitewash history so they can worship St. Sanger in clear conscience, but the truth is out there no matter how hard they try to suppress it. You can choose to ignore it if you like.

 

[PrincessKitty1]

I have never really understood why companies didn't cover birth control pills and other forms a birth control for that matter. You can buy a LOT of pills for what it costs to pay for the birth of a baby.

Agreed, and this is what makes me think non-coverage is primarily due to the influence of the so-called Religious Right. It certainly doesn't make financial sense for an insurance company.

 

[pixiemomma]

I do not know if my health insurance covers birth control or not, however, just the other day, my doctor recommended that I make an appointment with my gyn so that I can see about getting on birth control because my cycles are way to heavy and it causes me to loose to much blood and it's affecting me health wise and because I have painful periods.

I think that birth control should be covered for any and everyone, but if it isn't, people should go to a low cost clinic to obtain it. Many people do not know how to chart their cycles and can/will end up with many "accidents".

I myself have no clue on when I'm ovulating, then again, there isn't a reason for me to.

This a good point. The Pill is used for various reasons, not just to prevent pregnancy.

 

[LoraJ]

Hmm but lots of companies cover Viagara?? Go figure.

I wanted to get an IUD after #3 was born. My insurance did not cover it. It was approx $500 and stayed in for 10 years.

They would cover a vesectomy and or tubal ligation.

Well things happened and I was pregnat with #4 before I saved up the money for the IUD. So instead of my insurance paying $500 for an iud, they paid $30,000 for the birth of my son and a few thousand for a vasectomy for hubby.

That's pretty much the only thing that bothers me about this. I used to always pay full price for my BCP's because my insurance didn't cover it. That was until Viagra came along. Now I pay a co-pay. I think it would be totally unfair for an insurance company to cover Viagra and not BCP.

 

[minkydog]

As long as we have people thinking that BCP's are only to prevent pregnancy and they decide to not offer it because it's against their religious belief , this problem will never cease. When those people start believing that there are medical reasons why people take them as well , perhaps they will change their view .
And when it comes to medical care , the decisions should be left on the individual , not the government , not the employer or the insurance company. Imagine if people that work for a jehova witness ( and I am using that as an example ) were told their insurance company won't pay for blood transfusions if needed......[/QUOTE]

If they did, you would still be able to get a transfusion only you'd have to pay for it. As long as we accept the insurance our employer's offer, we have to understand that the employer gets to choose what they offer, not us.

 

[goofygirl]

You can believe that, but she did have racist views (i.e. her "Negro Project"). unPlanned Parenthood and the left wing women's groups have tried to revise and whitewash history so they can worship St. Sanger in clear conscience, but the truth is out there no matter how hard they try to suppress it. You can choose to ignore it if you like.

Uh, yeah like the "truth" that white people brought AIDS and drugs to all the ghettos to wipe out a race?

I suppose you use the term "UNplanned Parenthood" as some kind of put down, if you are implying that women with unplanned pregnancies go there, I have no problem with that!

 

[iggbees]

when i was on bcp i had all sorts of problems, anxiety (which i take lexapro for now) was just one of them. i could take it or leave it whether or not insurance companies pay for birth control. i think my parents insurance company paid for about half. i remember the pills were 25$ normally and i had to pay 10$ for them when i went to get them. i really honestly refuse to go back on them because of the anxiety i had and i only took them to reduce cramping (no amount of pain could ever make me go back on them).

i do have a friend though who takes them for ovarian cysts. we're both just out of college and buying them full price every month can be a little difficult.

 

[rigs32]

How many employers actually allow job applicants to view their medical plan before accepting a job? Can most people really make an informed decision as to the health care plan they will have access to before saying yes or no? Poof! Sorry, your previous job paid for your IUD, but now you have to pay out of pocket to have it removed.

I am a fairly healthy person. In fact, I have my tubes tied. Yet I need an IUD with hormones so that I do not have to be in a ball with extremely painful cramps one or two days a month. It is in no way preventative, yet many insurances wouldn't cover it even though it has another medical use.

Disfigured in a fire or other accident? Not medically necessary - you want the plastic surgery, you can pay for it.

Lose a limb? A wheelchair is fine - you can pay for an artificial limb if you want one.

Do I agree with the above statements? Heck no. But I don't think you can ignore womens reproductive health as unnecessary to cover.

Regarding Wal-Mart. Don't just think about their local competitors. Think about the fact that a huge chunk of their merchandise is from China - they are also part of the migration of manufacturing jobs overseas. So, essentially, many of the people who shop there to save money are the same people who might or will lose their jobs to those in other countries. It's an evil cycle and now that my local grocery store sells dried peaches, I officially have no more reason to shop there.

 

[katerkat]

I can't take BCP because they make me sick. Should my insurance company pay for condoms?

Oh, wait, the government has forced abstinence on me ten out of the last 18 months. And I was already pregnant!!

 

[LisaNJ25]

I can't take BCP because they make me sick. Should my insurance company pay for condoms?

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No, because condoms are over the counter.

 

[Tiggernut_jadie]

In the UK ALL BCP's are free from your own doctor. You can also get condoms free from the local family planning clinic. I know we have a different healthcare system over here but I'm astounded that a system that provides Viagra etc would exclude BCP's - how ludicrous?

 

[MrsKreamer]

when i was on bcp i had all sorts of problems, anxiety (which i take lexapro for now) was just one of them. i could take it or leave it whether or not insurance companies pay for birth control. i think my parents insurance company paid for about half. i remember the pills were 25$ normally and i had to pay 10$ for them when i went to get them. i really honestly refuse to go back on them because of the anxiety i had and i only took them to reduce cramping (no amount of pain could ever make me go back on them).

i do have a friend though who takes them for ovarian cysts. we're both just out of college and buying them full price every month can be a little difficult.

I had the same problem, all of those you listed,, reasons for BCP, anxiety, and the cost. You need to call your local Health Unit. All it takes is two visits and you get your pills for free.

 

[mickeyfan2]

If you want to have sex and no kids then pay for the pill. What is it about $20/month? If you cannot afford that then you CANNOT afford a kid, so don't try for them.

ETA: Does insurance pay for the condom? Well why not?

 

[mickeyfan2]

And you think it's acceptable that it doesn't cover birth control, or other neccesary medications?

How do you reach the conclusion that birth control pills are necessary medication? Many women make it their whole life without taking them and are health. Sorry this in NOT a necessary medication.

 

[disykat]

I've had it both ways. When I was on the Pill for birth control, I paid for it myself. Seemed logical to me. Several years later when it was prescribed for me as a medical necessity, it was covered by my insurance.

On my health plan, it was the same thing when I was going on medication to stimulate ovulation. It wasn't covered if I was using it to conceive, but it was covered if the doctor put me on it to regulate my periods.

 

[mickeyfan2]

Why should birth control pills be excluded? Many women are on birth control pills for medical reasons rather than preventing pregnancy. Besides, I, for one, pay a lot of money for health insurance and I think that it is completely appropriate for my BCP to be covered. I don't think that I should have to "come up with the money to buy it" in addition to paying my premiums.

Not to get snarky, but what is your real objection to BCP being covered by insurance. Are you trying to push YOUR own agenda?

Sorry I pay $2000/qtr for health insurance and my asthma meds are not covered. One inhaler alone is $225/month. Sorry that is more needed then BC pills and way more expensive. I adjust my spending to pay for my meds and those who want to have sex (BC, ED) need to pay for theirs too. My not breathing for a day is far more detremental to my health than your not having sex that day.

 

[mickeyfan2]

It cost the insurance company thousands of dollars in hospital bills when I had DS.

In no way is it cheaper to pay for deliveries than birth control.

You had him because you wanted a kid this would happen whether BC was covered or not. So no savings for the insurance company.

 

[Mskanga]

How do you reach the conclusion that birth control pills are necessary medication? Many women make it their whole life without taking them and are health. Sorry this in NOT a necessary medication.

That is what YOU think . You can speak for yourself but you cannot speak for the rest of women , you cannot certainly speak for me and why I take birth control pills , only me and my doctor know,and we both know it's not to prevent pregnancies. Please educate yourself about all the different reasons women take birth control pills other than preventing pregnancies.

Sorry I pay $2000/qtr for health insurance and my asthma meds are not covered. One inhaler alone is $225/month. Sorry that is more needed then BC pills and way more expensive. I adjust my spending to pay for my meds and those who want to have sex (BC, ED) need to pay for theirs too. My not breathing for a day is far more detremental to my health than your not having sex that day.

It seems to me that you are mad because the inhalers are not covered , not that I can blame you for that because that would tick me off too , but ovarian cysts are a HUGE problem for me and can potentially kill me too. Bottom line is healthcare should be the same for everyone and the decision to follow or get a treatment should be left to the patient and doctor , not insurance company or employers to decide what to offer and what they will pay for.