Mom needs care-where do I start?

I just want to say Thank you for all the encouraging words of support, and for all the much needed advise.

To all of the caregivers out there, I just want to say something my mom has always said:

"Better days are coming as long as you don't weaken" :grouphug:
 
Thank you for your kind words-but oh my gosh your plate is full. I am so sorry about your husband-wow. I am lucky that I haven't had to balance work at the moment.

That is great news that your brother might step up! You deserve a break-a decade, wow. I am so sorry about her munchausen - I can't even imagine. I hope your brother comes through. Hang in there. Keep us posted!

thank you :hug: i know it's not for everyone, but praying really does keep me sane. you and i both have really full plates right now, but we'll rise above. :thumbsup2 as dory says "just keep swimming, just keep swimming".
 
OP here-

Update: Got mom into our 1st choice of rehab home. She felt comfortable there until she rolled out of bed and was on the floor. Thank Goodness she has a room mate who was able to summon the nurse. I'm getting quite the run around as to what time everything happened. Seems our wonderful State legislators have determined that complete bed rails are to imprisoning and demeaning, and have replaced the beds with rails that only are as long as the pillow at the head of the bed. So I am not a happy camper about that. Everyone is "working on" finding her a bed with rails but we get the same story from shift to shift. Next stop is the social worker.

Today my MIL is in the ER, so between both moms we are up to our eyeballs.
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OP here-

Update: Got mom into our 1st choice of rehab home. She felt comfortable there until she rolled out of bed and was on the floor. Thank Goodness she has a room mate who was able to summon the nurse. I'm getting quite the run around as to what time everything happened. Seems our wonderful State legislators have determined that complete bed rails are to imprisoning and demeaning, and have replaced the beds with rails that only are as long as the pillow at the head of the bed. So I am not a happy camper about that. Everyone is "working on" finding her a bed with rails but we get the same story from shift to shift. Next stop is the social worker.

Today my MIL is in the ER, so between both moms we are up to our eyeballs.
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Oh my gosh! I am so sorry! My Mom just entered rehab (our first choice as well) on Friday. I asked about bed rails also. Yep - against the law -considered a restraint. They did put a nice think mat down.

We like the center, my Dad was there for 2 weeks in May or 2011. My mom broke the pelvis/hip socket. She is in a ton of pain - tomorrow marks one week from surgery. She is 79. It is going to be a long haul I am afraid.
 

First, you should be very proud of the way you are taking care of your mother. It is very easy to get wrapped up in the stress of it all. Take a minute each day and tell yourself 'you know, I did a wonderful job taking care of Mom today'. I wish someone had told me this when I was in a similar situation 1 1/2 years ago.

You need to take care of yourself and your family - not just your parents. And, if you need help from your family - ask for it.

Some specifics ...

I know it's been mentioned a few times, but make sure there are POA, healthcare proxies, etc. in place. This will become important. Also, make sure that there are at least 2 people on the healthcare proxy.

Money - you need to find out what the assets are and where they are - and how liquid they are - this will impact the decisions you need to start researching for coming out of rehab.

Rehab - I'm sorry your mother fell out of bed, but it does give you a little more leverage. This happened to my mother when she was at rehab. First, they should have a bed alarm - it a small 'blanket' type of thing that goes under the sheets - ask for one to be put in your mother's bed. This will alert the nurse's station that your mother is attempting to get out of bed (my mother fell when she attempted to get out of bed by herself to use the restroom). Second, tell them that you are concerned and would like your mother moved to a room that is closer to the nurse's station as soon as one is available.

Discharge - while looking for rehab centers and assisted living facilities for my mother I encountered great advice about the quick discharge hospitals and rehab centers are notorious for pushing on you. If you use the phrase 'I do not have a SAFE care plan in place yet - she cannot be SAFELY discharged' - it will stop most social workers/case workers in their tracks. They are not allowed to discharge if there is not a safe place for someone to go. In the case of the hospital - it gave us an extra couple of days to research and find an opening in the rehab facility we wanted (we were not leaving it up to chance - we knew the names we gave on that paper were all the places we liked and that had an opening at the time we asked). In the case of rehab - we had to pay out of pocket for 2 days since medicare was no longer paying (since my mother flat out refused PT and OT too many times).

I think you mentioned that your mother was starting to have memory issues - my mother was starting with dementia. There are assisted living facilities that specialize in memory care - and I mean that there are special care plans and specially trained staff - not just a block of rooms. We had a place in a great one for my mother. Even if you do not go the assisted living route - talking to these specialists can be helpful, and they often have support groups and education for families available.

You should start the process of looking for solutions for after discharge asap - it can be hard to find the right fit and find availability.

I know this is a very hard process, but there will be some good that comes out of it. I always say that 'I fell in love' with my mother during that stressful time when she needed so much help.
 
OP here-

Update: Got mom into our 1st choice of rehab home. She felt comfortable there until she rolled out of bed and was on the floor. Thank Goodness she has a room mate who was able to summon the nurse. I'm getting quite the run around as to what time everything happened. Seems our wonderful State legislators have determined that complete bed rails are to imprisoning and demeaning, and have replaced the beds with rails that only are as long as the pillow at the head of the bed. So I am not a happy camper about that. Everyone is "working on" finding her a bed with rails but we get the same story from shift to shift. Next stop is the social worker.

Today my MIL is in the ER, so between both moms we are up to our eyeballs.
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You need a bed that can be lowered. The bed is then just barely off the floor. The aides can raise and lower based on time of day, etc... This is what my company replaced the bed rails with So ask for that instead do rails. I am really surprisaed that wasn't option 1.

(had to look it up, you want a High/Low bed and it is suppose to be in low when she is asleep. Then if she rolls it is not a real problem)
 
So sorry to hear about your situation. My mom just passed away a couple of months ago, but the last eight months before her death were very tough. She was in and out of the hospital and rehabs consistently. There were six of us making decisions on her care and I know how tough that can be. We ended up putting her in assisted living, which is very costly, but so effective for everyone. We were lucky that she had the money so that wasn't an issue. God bless you and your family on your decision. It is certainly a tough one.
 
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First, you should be very proud of the way you are taking care of your mother. It is very easy to get wrapped up in the stress of it all. Take a minute each day and tell yourself 'you know, I did a wonderful job taking care of Mom today'. I wish someone had told me this when I was in a similar situation 1 1/2 years ago.

You need to take care of yourself and your family - not just your parents. And, if you need help from your family - ask for it.

Some specifics ...

I know it's been mentioned a few times, but make sure there are POA, healthcare proxies, etc. in place. This will become important. Also, make sure that there are at least 2 people on the healthcare proxy.

Money - you need to find out what the assets are and where they are - and how liquid they are - this will impact the decisions you need to start researching for coming out of rehab.

Rehab - I'm sorry your mother fell out of bed, but it does give you a little more leverage. This happened to my mother when she was at rehab. First, they should have a bed alarm - it a small 'blanket' type of thing that goes under the sheets - ask for one to be put in your mother's bed. This will alert the nurse's station that your mother is attempting to get out of bed (my mother fell when she attempted to get out of bed by herself to use the restroom). Second, tell them that you are concerned and would like your mother moved to a room that is closer to the nurse's station as soon as one is available.

Discharge - while looking for rehab centers and assisted living facilities for my mother I encountered great advice about the quick discharge hospitals and rehab centers are notorious for pushing on you. If you use the phrase 'I do not have a SAFE care plan in place yet - she cannot be SAFELY discharged' - it will stop most social workers/case workers in their tracks. They are not allowed to discharge if there is not a safe place for someone to go. In the case of the hospital - it gave us an extra couple of days to research and find an opening in the rehab facility we wanted (we were not leaving it up to chance - we knew the names we gave on that paper were all the places we liked and that had an opening at the time we asked). In the case of rehab - we had to pay out of pocket for 2 days since medicare was no longer paying (since my mother flat out refused PT and OT too many times).

I think you mentioned that your mother was starting to have memory issues - my mother was starting with dementia. There are assisted living facilities that specialize in memory care - and I mean that there are special care plans and specially trained staff - not just a block of rooms. We had a place in a great one for my mother. Even if you do not go the assisted living route - talking to these specialists can be helpful, and they often have support groups and education for families available.

You should start the process of looking for solutions for after discharge asap - it can be hard to find the right fit and find availability.

I know this is a very hard process, but there will be some good that comes out of it. I always say that 'I fell in love' with my mother during that stressful time when she needed so much help.

This last sentence is just beautiful...
 
OP, I know exactly what you are going through I just went through it. I was able to keep my mom at home as long as possible but had to place her in long term care after 2 rounds of rehab care. The first time she was in a really good place for a month after her days ran out. It was really expensive over $12,0000 for the month. I then brought her home where she stayed for just over a year. We had VNA coming in as she had some wound issues that needed care. She became ill in Dec. and grew very weak. She was hospitalized and sent to rehab again to regain strength to go home. This facility was okay but nowhere the quality of care as the first one was. Her insurance had changed and the first place didn't accept the new one so we couldn't go there again. She was improving and they decided she was ready to be sent home. 3 days later she began to decline and they sent her home anyway even though she was no longer able to walk or help herself transfer. We had her home for a week before finding a place. Luckily I was on spring break for that week and was able to be home. We then had a horrible time trying to set up home help while we searched for a long term placement. We had set up some interviews prior to her release but everything we tried fell through. We had a hard time placing her because she was a larger woman and several places refused her, 2 after agreeing to take her. We finally ended up with one that had bad reviews but we were happy with her care there. Everyone kept suggesting this particular nursing home but we were hesitant because of poor ratings on line, it was located in a bad area, and we had been in there years ago and didn't like it. It was almost as if it was meant to be that she be there. She was able to have a private room and the staff frequently said she was their favorite resident. She had 8 kids, and 14 grandkids so we were in and out at all times of the day and evening. Plus my youngest sister is a geriatric-psych nurse so we kept on top of things. She only ended up being there a lttle over 4 months before passing almost 2 weeks ago.

My point is, if they get ready to release your mom make sure you have time to get things such as home help set up before she is released.
 
I don't have any advice to give, but please remember a situation like this has rewards as well as challenges.
 
bushdianne- I'm so sorry for your loss. It sounds like you did everything right and made your mom's last moments as comfortable as possible. Thank you, and thanks again for everyones great advise.

ps...mom got a bed with rails! :yay:
 
bushdianne- I'm so sorry for your loss. It sounds like you did everything right and made your mom's last moments as comfortable as possible. Thank you, and thanks again for everyones great advise.

ps...mom got a bed with rails! :yay:

Yes, :cheer2: to you bushdianne

How did you get the rails CT?

Big pow wow today for my Mom at rehab. The required "care meeting". As much as I love this center, and all the hard working professionals there, I really had a hard time when the RN questioned a few of my mom's meds, and said she was going to "educate" my family on these meds. Wow - ok - will she be educating my mom's neurologist, psychiatrist, and my brother who is also a Dr? Yeah, I took offense.
 
Just wanted to say we are in the same boat (and it's not DCL)... Moms part-time aide is no longer a good fit and finding one that is seems impossible (which is what has me awake at nearly 3am).
We are thinking of bringing her to our house to live, but its a bit of a crazy house with two teens, a preschooler and a puppy! Not sure she would be happy, but I'm sure my sibs would as the burden would be lifted from them (sigh)...
Right now my 17yo has been doing some evening shifts at moms, but she's the only grand kid that has offered... At least I'm doing something right! Three of her 11 g'kids could not even be bothered to attend the 90th bday party this summer! Oh, we'll, their loss!

I'm happy to have found some kindred spirits... Blessings all!
 
We are in a similar situation. My grandparents have required 24/7 care since May. While the Hospice people have been trying to convince them they should go to the nursing home for at least the last 6 months, neither wanted to go. My grandmother has Alzheimer's, and every time we think she's getting firmly into those last stages, something brings her back out of it. Twice now, she's been at the point in which she could not walk, had lost some motor skills (could not feed herself), was unaware when she needed to use the restroom, etc., and twice she has come back around to closer to "normal." Our biggest issue is trying to figure out her reality. She has no clue what time of day it is, and she did a lot to wear out my grandfather with accusing him of doing things he didn't do (like changing things that hadn't changed) or keeping him up all night and not letting him get any sleep (because she doesn't really sleep anymore.)

The last time it got really bad was the week of July 12th. She got to where she had moments that she couldn't really talk, and she couldn't walk without someone physically supporting her. Then she got violent and wouldn't settle down, and we just couldn't handle her anymore. She went into the hospital by Hospice's recommendation, fully admited by 4:30am Friday, July 13th. My grandfather, who seemed to be just holding on to make sure she was taken care of, passed away on the morning of the 14th.

Since May, we've tried to find trustworthy sitters. Here, they charge at least $9/hour. We have a good one that my grandmother likes that comes 9-4 Monday through Friday. She cleans, cooks, and makes sure my grandmother is in clean clothes/Depends, eats, and takes her medicine. My grandmotehr has no problem taking her medicine from this lady either. We have bounced around on nighttime sitters and weekend day sitters, though. There was a lady who would sit at night for $50/week (Monday through Friday), but we think she thought she'd just be spending the night, because she takes care of her grandchildren during the week. She doesn't want to do it anymore because she has back problems and my grandmother won't sleep. The weekday daytime sitter's sister took over, but she couldn't work past 6am (which means no one was there from 6-9 unless I could get there, and I go back to work tomorrow, so that's out). Add to that the fact that my grandmother is terrified by this woman, and she's definitely out. We found another lady who came with many recommendations and worked before with an Alzheimer's patitent until that patient passed in May. She comes at night, but has another job that she is committed to three nights per week. That one recommended her mother, too. The mother came in as a weekend day person (she is an LPN and used to work for a nursing home in the memory loss ward or whatever you'd call that); she's the one that was there when granddad passed. Now she can't do the weekends, but she works the two nights per week that her daughter can't work (Thursday and Friday).

That leaves us still looking for someone for the weekends. We did have it down to where we only had to spend the night on Saturday nights, but now it's all weekend from 9am Saturday to 6pm Sunday. Mom and Dad go over every evening (4-6) to see how her day was, make sure she eats a decent dinner, etc, then we're supposed to be alternating weekends with Dad's brother, but he tends to forget it's his turn. Then Granny doesn't act a lot of days like she knows us or wants us around -- she snaps at my DD8 and definitely doesn't want her in the house, but for me to go during the week, DD has to be with me.

I've got to say that I've edited this twice and I still wind up with what I think is too much posted. But, hopefully, it can give an idea of what it can be like to go through in home help. We are having a hard time gettig anyone who wants to go, plus it has to be someone who is familiar with how dementia/Alzheimer's works -- are you going to be hurt when tomorrow she's mad at you or doesn't know who you are and randomly accuses you of taking things, calls you horrible things, and tells you to get the heck out of her house, and sometimes 5 minutes after she has told you how much she loves and adores you. It has been incredibly stressful watching her get mad because no one was coming in to help with "all these people in the beds" (she thought she was volunteering at the VA Hospital) or beg to be taken home to a place she hasn't lived since she got married over 67 years ago (and then get upset because she can't figure out how to call her daddy -- dead since the 70s -- or momma -- died in 1988 -- to tell them where she is and ask them to come get her.) Hasn't been much of a restful summer at all.
 
OP here: Mom got the rails bc my sister kept on them all day, and threatened to get the social worker involved. When I glanced in other rooms I saw that there were beds with rails. In fact a vacant one right across the hall. I said I wanted that bed, and they had issues with it not moving. Finally maintenance got it across the hall, and she is much more comfortable with the rails.

Rainydayplay-I hope you find the right person for your grandparents. Here in CT they charge $18 for non med care and $25 for med care givers. We need to get going on that whole problem asap, but who has the time or the energy when you're at the home all day? :headache:
 

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