Militant Jesus Camp?

[Saxsoon]

All I was doing was agreeing with him.

oops, I thought you were the one misunderstanding, when it was me.

 

[eclectics]

oops, I thought you were the one misunderstanding, when it was me.

Seems to happen quite a bit with us Sax! Maybe we both gotta work on that .

 

[Saxsoon]

Seems to happen quite a bit with us Sax! Maybe we
both gotta work on that .

I remember once on the conservative thread, someone I wasn't familiar with started saying what we had learned from one thread. A lot of them were a lot of talking points pertaining to the left and I got it all wrong.

It is so difficult to discuss over a message board because I can't tell what is directed to whom or if sarcasm is involved. (would have to be pretty subtle)

Then again, I would never have the time to check my sources on some things, and probably would not be this comfortable or well at debating something at all in real life.

 

[Amity 3]

What kind of underpants do Mormons wear?

they're a two-piece undergarment that look like lightweight PJ's with symbols on them. you're supposed to wear them under your actual underwear as protection from the outside world. I've never understood the importance of clothing styles in organized religion, but I've never understood organized religion to begin with.

 

[Rella Bella]

What kind of underpants do Mormons wear?

they're a two-piece undergarment that look like lightweight PJ's with symbols on them. you're supposed to wear them under your actual underwear as protection from the outside world. I've never understood the importance of clothing styles in organized religion, but I've never understood organized religion to begin with.

I don't know for sure that they all wear them, or exactly what they look like; but I believe it is a sacred garment and I think Amity is correct in saying they are worn for protection... I think purity may be involved there too. My home town had many Mormon's and several friends over the years mentioned them. It's very private, possibly a private choice... or maybe they all do it but don't talk about it much. But they are worn for spiritual reasons, where the pajamas in question would be mostly for fun.

 

[Chuck S]

I don't know for sure that they all wear them, or exactly what they look like; but I believe it is a sacred garment and I think Amity is correct in saying they are worn for protection... I think purity may be involved there too. My home town had many Mormon's and several friends over the years mentioned them. It's very private, possibly a private choice... or maybe they all do it but don't talk about it much. But they are worn for spiritual reasons, where the pajamas in question would be mostly for fun.

I found a couple of photos through google...it would appear there is more than one style, depending upon your "rank" or position within the church. It is aslo possible the first photo is a much older version of the garment.

 

[Rella Bella]

Thanks Chuck, interesting illustration.

This was running through my head a bit last night, when suddenly the disgusting thought of Fred Phelps jumped into my mind. YUCK!!! He’s the wacko who takes his “Westboro Baptist Church” to picket at the funerals of soldiers – not because he’s against the war, but because he thinks their deaths are because God is judging America. They also picket the funerals of gays.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church#Claiming_divine_vengeance
Now if there is a definition of a Christian wacko – he is it! This is someone to be afraid of!

It occurred to me that he is teaching the children in his church this crap! And if he is, it’s unlikely that he’s the only pocket of depravity out there… so not having seen the movie it really is possible that it depicts one.

I stand by my earlier post – we need to be careful we don’t apply the weird beliefs of these types to all fundamentalist Christian groups but obviously there are some to look out for! The problem is drawing the line between freedom of thought & religion and dangerous intention. I know Phelps has gone to court for the right to picket the funerals -- a local city passed an ordinance and he got it over turned... be very glad you don't live near Wichita, KS!

 

[Fitswimmer]

He’s the wacko who takes his “Westboro Baptist Church” to picket at the funerals of soldiers

I can live and let live with the folks like Pat Robertson who just say dopey things, but deliberate cruelty is over the line.

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[cardaway]

Thanks Chuck, interesting illustration.

This was running through my head a bit last night, when suddenly the disgusting thought of Fred Phelps jumped into my mind. YUCK!!! He’s the wacko who takes his “Westboro Baptist Church” to picket at the funerals of soldiers – not because he’s against the war, but because he thinks their deaths are because God is judging America. They also picket the funerals of gays.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church#Claiming_divine_vengeance
Now if there is a definition of a Christian wacko – he is it! This is someone to be afraid of!

Frankly I think the number of groups like this is higher than people want to admit.

That doesn't work. Just like anything else, the number that make the news only represent a small section of the larger total. In these cases you have to look no futher than the money and support these groups get.

A great example is leaders like Falwell. He's still raking it in despite the hate speach and other wacky things he says.

 

[Tiffer]

they're not much different than the 'magical underwear' Mormons wear.

MAgical Underwear????

Sorry If that is offensive...but I am cracking up at work after I read this!

 

[maleficent1959]

I dated a very devout Mormon for a while a few years ago who wore temple garments. He said he started wearing them after he got his Temple Card, which involved a lot of additional classes and study because Temple Cards are something you have to work for. Apparently they're something you can lose too because sometimes he would say things like "I could lose my Temple Card for that!" The way he described it, garments were part and parcel of having a Temple Card. He felt strongly about wearing garments.

I never saw them (felt them once but that's another story), but he said they were available in a couple of different fabrics and women could get sleeveless garments. He complained that the fabric didn't breathe. I had read that temple garments had embroidered symbols in various locations that stood for different tenets, but he wouldn't really confirm it. He just said "yeah, something like that." He was evasive, but that was because anything related to the Temple is sacred and to be kept secret from non-Mormons.

He did admit to knowing some people who were always physically covered by their garments. If they were changing garments they would carefully remove the old garments while putting on the new at the same time. Kept them on during intimate moments, showers etc. Not everyone goes to that extreme.

Deborah Laake wrote a book a few years ago called Secret Ceremonies that some people thought was very accurate and others thought was complete hogwash, but she had some vivid descriptions of garments and Temple. He didn't say what she wrote was untrue, but was distressed that she would violate the sacredness of the Temple rites by writing about them.

 

[JennyMominRI]

I dated a very devout Mormon for a while a few years ago who wore temple garments. He said he started wearing them after he got his Temple Card, which involved a lot of additional classes and study because Temple Cards are something you have to work for. Apparently they're something you can lose too because sometimes he would say things like "I could lose my Temple Card for that!" The way he described it, garments were part and parcel of having a Temple Card. He felt strongly about wearing garments.

I never saw them (felt them once but that's another story), but he said they were available in a couple of different fabrics and women could get sleeveless garments. He complained that the fabric didn't breathe. I had read that temple garments had embroidered symbols in various locations that stood for different tenets, but he wouldn't really confirm it. He just said "yeah, something like that." He was evasive, but that was because anything related to the Temple is sacred and to be kept secret from non-Mormons.

He did admit to knowing some people who were always physically covered by their garments. If they were changing garments they would carefully remove the old garments while putting on the new at the same time. Kept them on during intimate moments, showers etc. Not everyone goes to that extreme.

Deborah Laake wrote a book a few years ago called Secret Ceremonies that some people thought was very accurate and others thought was complete hogwash, but she had some vivid descriptions of garments and Temple. He didn't say what she wrote was untrue, but was distressed that she would violate the sacredness of the Temple rites by writing about them.

Type in Mormon Garments in an image search and you will find pics