Middle schoolers torment an elderly bus monitor and post it to the internet

If I had children and they behaved like that, there would be no end to how many different ways I could make their life miserable.

They'd be asking to go to foster care, and I might be willing to let them.
 
Just ONCE I would like to see a parent stand up and say "My child is turd and THIS is the punishment I'm doling out..."

In fairness, there are parents out there that do this. How many stories have we heard about where parents make their child stand on a street corner with sandwich boards telling everyone that passes by that they stole something, skipped school, bullied someone, etc? We've heard about parents that have called their children out on You Tube and Facebook. I'm not saying any of those are the right or wrong way to handle it but there are parents that make it a point to let everyone know that their child isn't an angel.
 
In fairness, there are parents out there that do this. How many stories have we heard about where parents make their child stand on a street corner with sandwich boards telling everyone that passes by that they stole something, skipped school, bullied someone, etc? We've heard about parents that have called their children out on You Tube and Facebook. I'm not saying any of those are the right or wrong way to handle it but there are parents that make it a point to let everyone know that their child isn't an angel.


Yes, but what I think Jennasis meant was to see a parent STEP FORWARD AFTER the bad behavior was disclosed to the public.

Usually, those parents who make a child stand with a sandwich board etc .. we the public were not or did not see the supposed offense/crime to begin with.

In this case, we see the video and we see the kids verbally abusing Karen … its these kids I would like to see THEIR parents make them all STAND WITH A SANDWICH BOARD on a busy street corner FOR A FULL WEEK IN THE HEAT apologizing to Karen for their behavior. ::yes::
 
Yes, but what I think Jennasis meant was to see a parent STEP FORWARD AFTER the bad behavior was disclosed to the public.

Usually, those parents who make a child stand with a sandwich board etc .. we the public were not or did not see the supposed offense/crime to begin with.

In this case, we see the video and we see the kids verbally abusing Karen … its these kids I would like to see THEIR parents make them all STAND WITH A SANDWICH BOARD on a busy street corner FOR A FULL WEEK IN THE HEAT apologizing to Karen for their behavior. ::yes::

I didn't get that at all from her post. It seemed general in nature but I may be wrong. And I'd like to take a sandwich board and whoop these kids over the head with them before they stand on the corner. ;)
 

I live in Greece, NY and all of those kids make me sick~ it makes me even sicker to think my 10 yo will be heading to middle school @ Athena in Sept :(

I'm glad so much is being done for her !

All buses here have monitors/aides~ I think the bus driver should have pulled over and called dispatch to have those little jerks taken off the bus.

I actually got an automated phone call yesterday evening from the Greece Central school district that there will be consequences for the students and that it has been turned over to the Greece Police dept for a full investigation.

The Greece police dept has actually had to post officers at these kids homes as they (the bullies) have been receiving threats~ I think that's wrong; but if you can dish it out you better be able to take it ;)
 
I didn't get that at all from her post. It seemed general in nature but I may be wrong. And I'd like to take a sandwich board and whoop these kids over the head with them before they stand on the corner. ;)

It's exactly what I meant. I LOVE when parents send their kid out to stand on a corner with a sign that reads "I'm being punished because i did XYZ" but invariably there's a backlash right here on the DIS about how that's bad parenting!
 
I watched the video and was disgusted. The bus driver should of stopped the bus and possibly called the school. I would of taken the bus back to the school and let the school deal with this. Then again I wouldn't have been so nice and probably would of got out of my seat and slapped those kids. No kids are going to disrespect me like that. Yes I would of probably went to jail, but so be it. Try getting those charges to stick, not a chance in hell.
 
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Just ONCE I would like to see a parent stand up and say "My child is turd and THIS is the punishment I'm doling out..."

Thing is, Parents who'd do that did it when their kids were toddlers . . . so those kids, as middle schoolers, don't act like idiots.
 
Many years ago Dr. Benjamin Spock set the stage for future generations of parents and kids not to expect consequences for their actions. Fortunately, not all parents bought into Spock's advice, but enough did, as is apparent in this situation.
 
I watched the video and was disgusted. The bus driver should of stopped the bus and possibly called the school. I would of taken the bus back to the school and let the school deal with this. Then again I wouldn't have been so nice and probably would of got out of my seat and slapped those kids. No kids are going to disrespect me like that. Yes I would of probably went to jail, but so be it. Try getting those charges to stick, not a chance in hell.

I don't think the driver did anything wrong. The driver is paid to keep his eyes on the road -- discipline is the job of the monitor.
 
I don't think the driver did anything wrong. The driver is paid to keep his eyes on the road -- discipline is the job of the monitor.

they stated that she was at the back of the bus and the driver never heard anything. The driver felt terrible and has apologized but is in no way being held responsible.
 
Personally, I'd like to see them assigned to do community service for their school. LOTS of work needs to be done over the summer: They could move the furniture out of classrooms so that the custodians could come in and buff /wax the floors, then move the furniture back in. They could clean out lockers, give the PE showers a good scrub-down. These kids need to do something to make up for their mistakes, but it doesn't have to involve interacting with other people.

Personally, I think that's a fine idea. I don't know if the school would go for it, though. We went through a particularly unlovely time when DS25 was in school, involving some disrespect to teachers. i was livid. I requested that DS be put to work cleaning up the stadium after the pep rally, mopping floors, cleaning off lunch tables, pretty much anything. I was told they couldn't allow that because they weren'l allowed to embarrass or humiliate a child as punishment. :sad2: Of course, DH & I took matters into our own hands and DS ended up working at a group home for mentally handicapped persons mostly cleaning cobwebs off the soffits under the roof, changing lightbulbs for the motion detector lights outside, planting new rose bushes, and moving all the parts of a large handicapped acessible swingset from point A to point B. Hot & dirty work. And DS even left early without finishing! Well, the director called me right away. We took him BACK to the home, sat there and waited for him to finish his work. At the end of the day, the director thanked him for finishing his job. That's when I let her know that DS would be coming back for 2 more weekends of work--one week for being deceitful and one week for being a punk. To his credit, he went back and the director had him shredding papers and moving files for 8 hours straight both days.

I'd like to say that it cured DS of his insolence, but that would not be true. He tried to mouth off a couple more times, just insanely disrespectful. I didn't do a sweet thing but withdraw him from school! going to public school is a privilege and he wasn't going to be allowed to carry on like a bully. DS was beside himself, but I told him he could not rejoin his friends until he earned 5 credits AND changed his attitude and I meant business. He was pretty upset, but he did earn 8 credits and sweetened himself up. We allowed him to return to high school the following year and had no further problems with not respecting teachers!

I really hope these nasty kids get substantial punishment, both at home and at school. :mad:
 
I watched the video and was disgusted. The bus driver should of stopped the bus and possibly called the school. I would of taken the bus back to the school and let the school deal with this. Then again I wouldn't have been so nice and probably would of got out of my seat and slapped those kids. No kids are going to disrespect me like that. Yes I would of probably went to jail, but so be it. Try getting those charges to stick, not a chance in hell.

If it's like around here, the bus driver probably was spanish and understood every third word said and had little or no clue about what was going on.
 
I think they should just dump all the little mutants on an island somewhere. Hunger Games: Season One :happytv:
 
I admit I haven't read all of the thread. The kids treated that woman just awful. However what I don't get is the role of a bus monitor for teens? Is it to keep control on the bus? If so she wasn't really doing her job was she? :confused3

She should have had the boys change seats and separate them. Then reported them to the school.

Maybe I'm missing something as we don't have bus monitors past primary grades. She seemed to be getting paid for doing nothing but sitting there and ignoring the kids. :confused3
 
I admit I haven't read all of the thread. The kids treated that woman just awful. However what I don't get is the role of a bus monitor for teens? Is it to keep control on the bus? If so she wasn't really doing her job was she? :confused3

She should have had the boys change seats and separate them. Then reported them to the school.

Maybe I'm missing something as we don't have bus monitors past primary grades. She seemed to be getting paid for doing nothing but sitting there and ignoring the kids. :confused3

I asked this earlier in the thread because we don't have bus monitors here. I am also wondering if she reported the students' behavior, or if they were only found out because they were stupid enough to post the video on facebook. :confused3
Those kids sound like real bullies-if they treat an adult like that, I wonder if they've bullied other kids on the bus or in school?
 
Those kids on that bus have no respect and are clearly not expecting any consequences. They have no fear of repercussions because they've never had any. Their parents have failed them and the school system has failed them by not having the guts to stand up to whining lazy parents who don't want their special snowflake to have consequences for their punk behavior.


I asked this earlier in the thread because we don't have bus monitors here. I am also wondering if she reported the students' behavior, or if they were only found out because they were stupid enough to post the video on facebook. :confused3
Those kids sound like real bullies-if they treat an adult like that, I wonder if they've bullied other kids on the bus or in school?
I'm sure they bully anyone who they consider less than them. I'd also bet serious bucks that they disrespect their own parents and treat them like crap on a regular basis. I'm sure it started as toddlers and the parents did nothing because it was "cute" or because it was a "natural expression". And then did nothing as they got older because they subscribe to that parenting philosophy that kids will inevitably talk back and mouth off and treat parents like crap, but there's nothing you can do but wait until they move out of the house.

I was regularly astonished at how my dd's friends -- middle class, midwestern suburbanites, top 10% of their grade, mostly church-going, most with SAHMs -- talked to and ABOUT their parents. My dd was as well, to be honest. These kids were nice to each other and to their teachers and other students, but to their parents? Unbelievable behavior. The kids had zero respect for their parents, did not like them and said they didn't love them either. And after watching them in action for nearly 20 years, I'll venture reasons why: no consequences for bad behavior, no consistency, a desire to be a friend rather than a parent, fearing that imposition of consequences will make the kid dislike them/run away, not wanting to be the "bad guy" because that's not fun...

It all boils down to lazy parenting, pure laziness. These same people all seem to also have dogs who are totally untrained -- another sign of pure laziness that is counterproductive. And then these same parents ask why my dd and I get along so well and why dd never speaks disrespectfully to me -- then answer their own question before I can, by saying I got "lucky." Bullhockey. I didn't get lucky. I worked HARD at being a good parent.

What fascinates me is that when the kids were over at our house, there was no backtalk to me after the first time. They tried it once and consequences happened and that was the end of that crap. My dd asked her best friend one time why she talked to her mother that way but didn't talk that way to me and her friend's answer was, "I'm scared of YOUR mother. I love her, you know, but I'm scared of her too." Well, good. Be scared and don't act like a freaking punk and we'll get along. Disrespect me and act like a punk and bad stuff will happen.
 
One of the father's and the woman were on our news this evening.

The father stated he was very upset with his son and that the child has apologized. He also stated this is not a matter where he will be grounded for a few weeks. It will need to be evaluated by a specialist so that he can get the help/skills he needs. It was totally unacceptable to the father and he again apologized to the woman.

She does not want the kids criminally charged, but that it is done within the school. She has over 400,000 in the account now, so over 25 years of salary plus. She will retire and take a cruise.

Our bus superintendent stated she did what they are taught. She kept her cool and acted as an adult like she should. Yelling and or confronting the children would just escalate the situation, and just because she had great restraint in this matter does not mean in a child was being bullied she would not handle properly. She did her job to the letter of the instructions.

Lastly, there does not seem to be any criminal charges. The boys have been outed and one cell phone alone received 1000's of call and text's threatening the child.

They also interviewed the Gentleman in Canada who set up the account for her, he seemed very genuine and was extremely upset at the conduct of the children.
 
I hope the police take their time investigating this so they have a rock solid case against these boys. From what the lady said on Anderson tonight one of the boys has been a problem. Hopefully this will be the turning point in their lives.

I thought it was nice of southwest to give her and her family a trip to Disneyland.
 













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