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Schools always talk big about job opportunities..they want you to give them your money and go through their program. I have little doubt they are careful in their wording and there is fine print that indicates they can not guarantee anything and there are plenty of graduates that find that the job market is not what the school made it out to be ).

We have several of these "fake" "colleges" here who have these degrees that sound good, but ..........I know 2 people who got "Dental Assistant" degrees. This is the person who hands the tools to the Dentisit. My dentist and DH's dentist have had the same tech for 20 years-and we dont have new Detisits opening shop-so how can they train 30 people every 4 months and expect them to get jobs in this field???????????????

Same with Op's 'degree"-my pharmacy has had the same tech for 5-6 years

But the OP's idea of a Nail Tech as a great job in an area with no employment opportunites-really? here ALL of the nail places are asian women...and several of them closed down-can NOT imagine that as a good career.

Also-My son and fiancee live 45 min from manhattan and pay $1400 a month for rent-count yourself lucky :)
 
If what you really want to do is work at Planned Parenthood, are you VOLUNTEERING at Planned Parenthood now? They could probably even give you a little bit of pharmacy tech experience. If not there, then somewhere? And volunteer like it's your job -- work hard, be punctual. There are myriad reasons to volunteer, from making contacts in the community to improving your own self respect. This would be especially helpful if you have a lousy resume (jumping from job to job, for example -- no idea if this fits you, but I suspect it might.)

Unless there's something you haven't told us, you've not paid any dues either. You pay dues when you start at the bottom and do the work no one wants to. You pay dues when you stay at the restaurant even though you don't like the way it's run because you need the job and don't have another one lined up.
 
One hour north of Manhattan means that there is public transportation into Manhattan!

But, I notice the original poster hasn't been back since telling people to "shove it", so I don't think we will find out why taking a bus into Manhattan every day won't work.

I know I had a response saying this typed out 2 days ago but when she came back with her shove it remark didn't hit enter because it wasn't worth it.

But being 90 minutes away from the most populated city in the country and saying you are rural was hilarious! Do you know how many people work in NYC daily and have more than an hour commute? My SIL commuted 2 hours when she worked there. If she rode her bike 20 minutes, or less, I would be unbelievably surprised if she didn't come to some sort of commuter lot or transportation system. Let alone all the businesses.



It is obvious why she doesn't have a job.
 
If what you really want to do is work at Planned Parenthood, are you VOLUNTEERING at Planned Parenthood now? They could probably even give you a little bit of pharmacy tech experience. If not there, then somewhere? And volunteer like it's your job -- work hard, be punctual. There are myriad reasons to volunteer, from making contacts in the community to improving your own self respect. This would be especially helpful if you have a lousy resume (jumping from job to job, for example -- no idea if this fits you, but I suspect it might.)

Unless there's something you haven't told us, you've not paid any dues either. You pay dues when you start at the bottom and do the work no one wants to. You pay dues when you stay at the restaurant even though you don't like the way it's run because you need the job and don't have another one lined up.



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:thumbsup2Totally agree with everything you said....Volunteer and start at the bottom ! :thumbsup2
 

Maybe a bit off topic, but if you have a nurse-degree, and are not afraid from moving trans-atlantic: over here, we are crying for nurses. Learn some French, hop on the plane and get a job here.

Right now, as well in Portugal/ Spain as Poland/ Russia/..., so many nurses are taking express-courses to learn French and will then come here and work because we have a huge shortage.

As to OP, with an attitude like yours, you will never find your perfect job. It would not be bad to first grow up a bit.
 
I live an hour-ish north of Manhattan, that's why. The cost of living is VERY HIGH here. My 500 square foot, one bedroom apartment, with fixtures that have not been updated since the late 1950s-mid 1960s (no, I am not exaggerating) costs us $850 per month, and that is the cheapest place in town.

You live an hour-ish north of Manhattan and you are saying there are no opportunities??? That would put you in Westchester, Duchess or Fairield County, I would imagine.

Guess what? I live an "hour-ish" north of Manhattan too. There are numerous technical and trade schools, there are numerous opportunities. If your mother is willing to pay for certain types of schooling but not other types of schooling, I'd recommend that you discuss with her what she would be willing to pay for and look in that direction. Secretarial school (Gibbs College, formerly know as Katharine Gibbs) is highly regarded. Dental hygienist still seems to be a pretty good field too. Look to a trade school...hairdressing can be very lucrative....especially if you live in Fairfield or Westchester county. Lots of rich ladies there very willing to pay big bucks for their beauty. My hairdresser lives a heck of a lot nicer lifestyle than I do.

Waitressing makes you feel "disrespected"? Do you feel any more respected sitting home all day doing nothing complaining about how bad your life is? At least with waitressing, you're earning something. And you can only feel "disrespected" if YOU allow yourself to feel disrespected. Bad management....please:rolleyes:. Go to work, do your job, wait on tables and make some money to dig yourself out of this hole you're in.

Can't cut anything out of your budget??? I bet you can. Obviously you need to pay the rent/utilities/car expenses and eat. You say you need Internet access for your husband's job. Do you need cable? If not, get rid of it. Do you need the latest in technology, phones etc.? No...so don't get sucked into it. Turn off lights, turn down the heat, turn off the AC when the days aren't unbearably hot. Where do you shop? How do you shop? Do you use coupons? Do you watch sales? Do you stock up when something is on sale? If you're home all day, at the very least your "job" should be running your small household as efficiently and cost-effectively as possible...and yeah, if that means riding a bike to get to where you need to go, then that's what it means.

In my suburban town and "hourish" north of Manhattan, I see plenty of 20-somethings at my local grocery store who have a bike with a child trailer attached to it but they aren't carrying a child...that trailer is to bring home their groceries. When I was 18-21 years old and didn't have a car at my disposal, I rode my bike to work...probably a distance of about 8-10 miles from my parents house to my job....all in an area an "hourish" north of Manhattan.

You see OP, you're getting angry at people for telling you the way the world works. No one's is going to hand you anything. We've all been there. No one handed DH or I anything either...what we have, we worked for. And there were some VERY lean times....DH is a realtor there still are some VERY lean times. And when there are lean times, we adjust. We don't go out to dinner, we don't attend expensive events, we buckle down on household expenses, we shut off lights, we shut off air conditioners, I pore over coupons and what stores have what on sale, I plan the use of my car to conserve gas, I ride my bike (at age 50) to certain places when necessary on an effort to conserve gas, I pick up extra shifts at work, DH works a 60 hour work week....and so on......

You are actually fairly fortunate that you have a parent who is willing to pay for some sort of educationf or you. Granted, it may not be exactly what you want to do right now, but if your mother is willing to pay for SOMETHING, then figure out what she feels would be a worthwhile expenditure of her money and do that. Then you get a job in that field, catch up financially from poor past decisions and then you can go on to do what YOU want to do.

Siitng home saying "poor me" isn't getting you anywhere. Neither is your atitude, because it's coming off as nasty and self-entitled just like many other 20-somethings I know who thinks the world owes them a living because Mommy always told them what a terribly special snowflake they were. Hence the reason why you're having so many people who might hire you are telling YOU to "shove it"...no one needs a diva working for them when there are so many people who are willing to work without the self-entitled attitude.

Welcome to the real world....now go fix your situation, on all levels, starting with attitude and working your way out from there.
 
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I don't like children, children don't like me, and I'm not good with them. Why would I put myself in a job where I would not excel, you know? I think it's good that I know where I would not excel, so that I don't get into a field and then realize, "holy crap, I can't do this".

If someone feels this way about kids, could you really be objective working for Planned Parenthood?
 
I know I had a response saying this typed out 2 days ago but when she came back with her shove it remark didn't hit enter because it wasn't worth it.

But being 90 minutes away from the most populated city in the country and saying you are rural was hilarious! Do you know how many people work in NYC daily and have more than an hour commute? My SIL commuted 2 hours when she worked there. If she rode her bike 20 minutes, or less, I would be unbelievably surprised if she didn't come to some sort of commuter lot or transportation system. Let alone all the businesses.

It is obvious why she doesn't have a job.

My dad made the hour commute into the city every day. My husband makes an hour commute every day in DC. I used to do it. That's life. If the OP and her husband broadened their horizons, they'll find a whole world of employment opportunities.
 
If someone is truly desperate there is no job that is below accepting. I also find not being able to get a job right now in retail hysterical. Stores are now hiring for Christmas help. If the OP truly needed a job, one in retail would be easy to find. Not to mention, most stores will work around your home life, so juggling the car would be easy.
 
I divorced an alcoholic, kept my house and raised two children on less money than the OP's husband. The child support we got covered utilities and nothing more ("voluntarily underemployed" ex). I couldn't afford child care, so at that time I worked at my kids' schools (plus another job). If you don't have kids and child care to worry about, that's more than half the financial battle. It can be done - it takes effort and drive, but you do what you have to.:thumbsup2 I only did what thousands and thousands of people do every day.
 
I divorced an alcoholic, kept my house and raised two children on less money than the OP's husband. The child support we got covered utilities and nothing more ("voluntarily underemployed" ex). I couldn't afford child care, so at that time I worked at my kids' schools (plus another job). If you don't have kids and child care to worry about, that's more than half the financial battle. It can be done - it takes effort and drive, but you do what you have to.:thumbsup2 I only did what thousands and thousands of people do every day.

Totally off topic but I just booked a four day stay in Charleston. We fell in love with this city. :lovestruc
 
If someone feels this way about kids, could you really be objective working for Planned Parenthood?

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Hey, OP! I had a great idea last night.

Can you clean houses? This could be a self employment opportunity for you. You could work it around your own schedule, on the weekends, when the people are not at home, and you could even walk there if you didn't use the husbands car. If you are within 1 hour of Manhattan you should still be fine (to be in a big enough town) to be around people who want someone to come clean their house.
 
If someone is truly desperate there is no job that is below accepting. I also find not being able to get a job right now in retail hysterical. Stores are now hiring for Christmas help. If the OP truly needed a job, one in retail would be easy to find. Not to mention, most stores will work around your home life, so juggling the car would be easy.

::yes:: Retail is well known for it's flexibility in regards to hours/days that people need to work..even when they hire for seasonal help.

There are plenty of people in my city who commute an hour to work and we are a horrible state for commuting (and have little to no mass transit) but they do it because they need/want a job. For someone living near an area that is well known for people commuting and the accessible/available mass transit to do so to claim they have no options is shocking and not accurate. If someone can do it here at a greater time/distance then it most certainly can be done in NY.
 
ohiomom28 said:
What is dde04?

It was supposed to be a smiley but I'm on my phone so it apparently didn't translate and I haven't gotten to a computer yet to edit it. I can't figure out how to edit using my iPhone app!
 
ilovefh said:
It was supposed to be a smiley but I'm on my phone so it apparently didn't translate and I haven't gotten to a computer yet to edit it. I can't figure out how to edit using my iPhone app!

LOL! Ok, that makes sense..I thought I was missing something :)
 
You live an hour-ish north of Manhattan and you are saying there are no opportunities??? That would put you in Westchester, Duchess or Fairield County, I would imagine.

Guess what? I live an "hour-ish" north of Manhattan too. There are numerous technical and trade schools, there are numerous opportunities. If your mother is willing to pay for certain types of schooling but not other types of schooling, I'd recommend that you discuss with her what she would be willing to pay for and look in that direction. Secretarial school (Gibbs College, formerly know as Katharine Gibbs) is highly regarded. Dental hygienist still seems to be a pretty good field too. Look to a trade school...hairdressing can be very lucrative....especially if you live in Fairfield or Westchester county. Lots of rich ladies there very willing to pay big bucks for their beauty. My hairdresser lives a heck of a lot nicer lifestyle than I do.

Waitressing makes you feel "disrespected"? Do you feel any more respected sitting home all day doing nothing complaining about how bad your life is? At least with waitressing, you're earning something. And you can only feel "disrespected" if YOU allow yourself to feel disrespected. Bad management....please:rolleyes:. Go to work, do your job, wait on tables and make some money to dig yourself out of this hole you're in.

Can't cut anything out of your budget??? I bet you can. Obviously you need to pay the rent/utilities/car expenses and eat. You say you need Internet access for your husband's job. Do you need cable? If not, get rid of it. Do you need the latest in technology, phones etc.? No...so don't get sucked into it. Turn off lights, turn down the heat, turn off the AC when the days aren't unbearably hot. Where do you shop? How do you shop? Do you use coupons? Do you watch sales? Do you stock up when something is on sale? If you're home all day, at the very least your "job" should be running your small household as efficiently and cost-effectively as possible...and yeah, if that means riding a bike to get to where you need to go, then that's what it means.

In my suburban town and "hourish" north of Manhattan, I see plenty of 20-somethings at my local grocery store who have a bike with a child trailer attached to it but they aren't carrying a child...that trailer is to bring home their groceries. When I was 18-21 years old and didn't have a car at my disposal, I rode my bike to work...probably a distance of about 8-10 miles from my parents house to my job....all in an area an "hourish" north of Manhattan.

You see OP, you're getting angry at people for telling you the way the world works. No one's is going to hand you anything. We've all been there. No one handed DH or I anything either...what we have, we worked for. And there were some VERY lean times....DH is a realtor there still are some VERY lean times. And when there are lean times, we adjust. We don't go out to dinner, we don't attend expensive events, we buckle down on household expenses, we shut off lights, we shut off air conditioners, I pore over coupons and what stores have what on sale, I plan the use of my car to conserve gas, I ride my bike (at age 50) to certain places when necessary on an effort to conserve gas, I pick up extra shifts at work, DH works a 60 hour work week....and so on......

You are actually fairly fortunate that you have a parent who is willing to pay for some sort of educationf or you. Granted, it may not be exactly what you want to do right now, but if your mother is willing to pay for SOMETHING, then figure out what she feels would be a worthwhile expenditure of her money and do that. Then you get a job in that field, catch up financially from poor past decisions and then you can go on to do what YOU want to do.

Siitng home saying "poor me" isn't getting you anywhere. Neither is your atitude, because it's coming off as nasty and self-entitled just like many other 20-somethings I know who thinks the world owes them a living because Mommy always told them what a terribly special snowflake they were. Hence the reason why you're having so many people who might hire you are telling YOU to "shove it"...no one needs a diva working for them when there are so many people who are willing to work without the self-entitled attitude.

Welcome to the real world....now go fix your situation, on all levels, starting with attitude and working your way out from there.

I love this post. You hit the nail on the head on all points. :thumbsup2
 
You live an hour-ish north of Manhattan and you are saying there are no opportunities??? That would put you in Westchester, Duchess or Fairield County, I would imagine.

Guess what? I live an "hour-ish" north of Manhattan too. There are numerous technical and trade schools, there are numerous opportunities. If your mother is willing to pay for certain types of schooling but not other types of schooling, I'd recommend that you discuss with her what she would be willing to pay for and look in that direction. Secretarial school (Gibbs College, formerly know as Katharine Gibbs) is highly regarded. Dental hygienist still seems to be a pretty good field too. Look to a trade school...hairdressing can be very lucrative....especially if you live in Fairfield or Westchester county. Lots of rich ladies there very willing to pay big bucks for their beauty. My hairdresser lives a heck of a lot nicer lifestyle than I do.

Waitressing makes you feel "disrespected"? Do you feel any more respected sitting home all day doing nothing complaining about how bad your life is? At least with waitressing, you're earning something. And you can only feel "disrespected" if YOU allow yourself to feel disrespected. Bad management....please:rolleyes:. Go to work, do your job, wait on tables and make some money to dig yourself out of this hole you're in.

Can't cut anything out of your budget??? I bet you can. Obviously you need to pay the rent/utilities/car expenses and eat. You say you need Internet access for your husband's job. Do you need cable? If not, get rid of it. Do you need the latest in technology, phones etc.? No...so don't get sucked into it. Turn off lights, turn down the heat, turn off the AC when the days aren't unbearably hot. Where do you shop? How do you shop? Do you use coupons? Do you watch sales? Do you stock up when something is on sale? If you're home all day, at the very least your "job" should be running your small household as efficiently and cost-effectively as possible...and yeah, if that means riding a bike to get to where you need to go, then that's what it means.

In my suburban town and "hourish" north of Manhattan, I see plenty of 20-somethings at my local grocery store who have a bike with a child trailer attached to it but they aren't carrying a child...that trailer is to bring home their groceries. When I was 18-21 years old and didn't have a car at my disposal, I rode my bike to work...probably a distance of about 8-10 miles from my parents house to my job....all in an area an "hourish" north of Manhattan.

You see OP, you're getting angry at people for telling you the way the world works. No one's is going to hand you anything. We've all been there. No one handed DH or I anything either...what we have, we worked for. And there were some VERY lean times....DH is a realtor there still are some VERY lean times. And when there are lean times, we adjust. We don't go out to dinner, we don't attend expensive events, we buckle down on household expenses, we shut off lights, we shut off air conditioners, I pore over coupons and what stores have what on sale, I plan the use of my car to conserve gas, I ride my bike (at age 50) to certain places when necessary on an effort to conserve gas, I pick up extra shifts at work, DH works a 60 hour work week....and so on......

You are actually fairly fortunate that you have a parent who is willing to pay for some sort of educationf or you. Granted, it may not be exactly what you want to do right now, but if your mother is willing to pay for SOMETHING, then figure out what she feels would be a worthwhile expenditure of her money and do that. Then you get a job in that field, catch up financially from poor past decisions and then you can go on to do what YOU want to do.

Siitng home saying "poor me" isn't getting you anywhere. Neither is your atitude, because it's coming off as nasty and self-entitled just like many other 20-somethings I know who thinks the world owes them a living because Mommy always told them what a terribly special snowflake they were. Hence the reason why you're having so many people who might hire you are telling YOU to "shove it"...no one needs a diva working for them when there are so many people who are willing to work without the self-entitled attitude.

Welcome to the real world....now go fix your situation, on all levels, starting with attitude and working your way out from there.

I totally agree with everything in this post! We are being very careful how we raise our daughters, because they do have so much more than my husband and I ever did. I do not want them to feel entitled for one second. My 13 year old started cleaning her aunt's house this summer (her first "job") and I think she learned a lot from it.

The OP has gotten really thoughtful advice, and excellent ideas. We have brainstormed solutions to all of her excuses- sorry- issues. She could really improve the quality of life for herself and her husband if she just steps up. Yet, where is she?
 
Definitely not my definition of rural. Rural to me is a community of maybe a few thousand people, lots of farmland, no public transportation and the closest movie theater is 40 miles away.
 
We could probably give up since she isn't replying anymore. She has posted on other threads but not on this one. I don't think anyone is going to get through to her.
 
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