May 23, 2011 - The UNOFFICIAL "The Bachelorette" - NO SPOILERS, please!

Usually there is a week between but I saw a commercial tonight that the tell all is SUNDAY night and the finale Monday.

I think they are trying to make room for Bachelor Pad to start.

Liz

i thought they were normally a week apart. i didn't think about Bachelor Pad though. i just thought maybe they knew this season was terrible and were trying to end the misery more quickly.
 
Usually there is a week between but I saw a commercial tonight that the tell all is SUNDAY night and the finale Monday.

I think they are trying to make room for Bachelor Pad to start.

Liz

I wasn't paying attention and couldn't figure out why they said NEXT week was the finale.
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Maybe this season is such a bomb that they can't afford to give up another Monday night of low ratings? :headache: I wonder if all the commercial sponsors have jumped ship? :confused3

ABC has to know that Sunday nite would be a complete throwaway. True Blood is on that night.
 
OK, so I've been lurking on this thread, but I just had to post to see if anyone else had actually had the thought I had...

I was sure that when the door opened, it would be Brad Womack realizing he really loved her (now that Emily dumped him)... I guess I'm still thinking of Jason Mesnick. I think that would have been even more entertaining than Bentley! The sad thing is, I think she would have been tempted!:lmao:
 
I think J.P, would be a good next Bachelor. But, I agree with the person who posted he's too gun shy right now. Plus, I think the show would ruin him. She show has a funny way of turning people into someone else, at the end of the whole process. :sad2:
I think that JP is F1, so I don't see how he'll be the next bachelor. I'm also not that wild about him. Ashley keeps on saying things about how handsome he is and I just don't see it :confused3. Obviously, he's not my type :rotfl:.
 

OmGoodness, you guys are HYSTERICAL!!! :lmao:

I decided NOT to go back after checking and seeing her dumb insecurity speech to Chris. Somehow HGTV was BETTER than that garbage, period! ;)

I agree that ABC decided this show was NOT worth dragging it thru another week. There is no intrigue, no mystery, no NOTHING. She is the worse bachelorette ever and her guys are just two nice guys who no one cares who "wins" or loses... I say WIN with literal tongue in cheek... :laughing:

After this debacle I'm looking forward to the Jake/Vienna mess on Bach Pad.. at least it's INTERESTING. There is nothing the least bit interesting about Ashley's season. :confused3

Men tell All??? :confused: The only thing good about that is seeing a few good looking men again. And of course....villain music... BENTLEY....:scared:
 
I noticed it too. Then she said, he initiated it. NO, he LEFT. :p

Yah, he initiated it but she didn't object or even try to talk him into staying. I think she felt like he did but was willing to have one steamy night with him for the sake of .... well, he did have a hot bod!:lmao:
 
I think that JP is F1, so I don't see how he'll be the next bachelor. I'm also not that wild about him. Ashley keeps on saying things about how handsome he is and I just don't see it :confused3. Obviously, he's not my type :rotfl:.

He's no more shocking than Rob, Jillian or even Ashley. :confused3
 
can i just say that if i did the fantasy suite and then didn't get picked, i'd be ticked off. you know that the bachelor/ette has already made up his/her mind by this point, but is just going on for the sake of the show. so, basically the bachelor/ette is sleeping with someone just for fun, essentially. gross. i'd also be a little ticked to be the f1 knowing that the other person just spent the night with one or two more other people. double gross.

i know that they know what they're getting into when they sign up. i still find it gross. i can see why emily would be upset because you know brad was getting it on with those other two.
 
can i just say that if i did the fantasy suite and then didn't get picked, i'd be ticked off. you know that the bachelor/ette has already made up his/her mind by this point, but is just going on for the sake of the show. so, basically the bachelor/ette is sleeping with someone just for fun, essentially. gross. i'd also be a little ticked to be the f1 knowing that the other person just spent the night with one or two more other people. double gross.

i know that they know what they're getting into when they sign up. i still find it gross. i can see why emily would be upset because you know brad was getting it on with those other two.

I thought about that too. JP was losing it when all she did was DATE other guys. I wonder how he dealt with knowing she spent the night with Ben. I'm surprised they didn't show us that drama.
 
can i just say that if i did the fantasy suite and then didn't get picked, i'd be ticked off. you know that the bachelor/ette has already made up his/her mind by this point, but is just going on for the sake of the show. so, basically the bachelor/ette is sleeping with someone just for fun, essentially. gross. i'd also be a little ticked to be the f1 knowing that the other person just spent the night with one or two more other people. double gross.

i know that they know what they're getting into when they sign up. i still find it gross. i can see why emily would be upset because you know brad was getting it on with those other two.

It is nasty, I agree. I've always thought so. It's like a skank-fest! :laughing:

Did anyone else think Ashley and Ben were smashed at the end of the show? They were on the boat laughing hysterically and discussing her gnarled, hobbit-like toes. Weird, weird, weird because she kept asking Ben which one would he kiss, the one with the bunyan on it. I think they were hammered. :laughing:
 
I thought about that too. JP was losing it when all she did was DATE other guys. I wonder how he dealt with knowing she spent the night with Ben. I'm surprised they didn't show us that drama.

Oh ya, he won't handle it well at all. And who could blame him really? Did you SEE his face at the rose ceremony when Ashley said Ben's name first?? He looked very upset.
 
It is nasty, I agree. I've always thought so. It's like a skank-fest! :laughing:

Did anyone else think Ashley and Ben were smashed at the end of the show? They were on the boat laughing hysterically and discussing her gnarled, hobbit-like toes. Weird, weird, weird because she kept asking Ben which one would he kiss, the one with the bunyan on it. I think they were hammered. :laughing:

i missed that part. toes are gross too! lol! the only toes that are not gross belong to my children since they are still young.

i would be surprised if JP wasn't freaking out watching this, assuming he's f1 (which i think he is). ben doesn't seem to be the type to freak out quite as much if he were f1. do you think whoever is f2 is watching this all play out thanking his lucky stars he wasn't picked? ;)
 
i missed that part. toes are gross too! lol! the only toes that are not gross belong to my children since they are still young.

It was gross! :laughing: But I agree, I think my 3DD's toes are adorable. :goodvibes

i would be surprised if JP wasn't freaking out watching this, assuming he's f1 (which i think he is). ben doesn't seem to be the type to freak out quite as much if he were f1. do you think whoever is f2 is watching this all play out thanking his lucky stars he wasn't picked? ;)

:rotfl2: Honey, I think ALL the guys except for the F1 are breathing a collective sigh of relief! Seriously.
 
It is nasty, I agree. I've always thought so. It's like a skank-fest! :laughing:

Did anyone else think Ashley and Ben were smashed at the end of the show? They were on the boat laughing hysterically and discussing her gnarled, hobbit-like toes. Weird, weird, weird because she kept asking Ben which one would he kiss, the one with the bunyan on it. I think they were hammered. :laughing:

I saw that, too. :lmao:

I thought about that too. JP was losing it when all she did was DATE other guys. I wonder how he dealt with knowing she spent the night with Ben. I'm surprised they didn't show us that drama.

Oh ya, he won't handle it well at all. And who could blame him really? Did you SEE his face at the rose ceremony when Ashley said Ben's name first?? He looked very upset.

I was wondering if she chooses JP, how she will explain this to him. She did mention "overnights" in a casual way to him at dinner. I didn't really see him react, except his eyes kind of changed.

i would be surprised if JP wasn't freaking out watching this, assuming he's f1 (which i think he is). ben doesn't seem to be the type to freak out quite as much if he were f1. do you think whoever is f2 is watching this all play out thanking his lucky stars he wasn't picked? ;)

What I see is that she is very passionate and comfortable with JP, and with Ben she is still a little guarded, it seems. Even what she wore with JP in the Fantasy Suite was "come and get me" instead of let's play in the pool.

I still don't see how she can sleep with 2 people on two nights in a row :sick:

Oh, and did anyone else see the really bad acting she did with Ryan when he came to her room? I think she was tipped off ahead of time.
 
:rotfl2: Honey, I think ALL the guys except for the F1 are breathing a collective sigh of relief! Seriously.

::yes:: :thumbsup2


I was wondering if she chooses JP, how she will explain this to him. She did mention "overnights" in a casual way to him at dinner. I didn't really see him react, except his eyes kind of changed.

Yes, and he was upset when she referred to both Ben and him as her "relationships." She is so clueless, she doesn't even notice his responses.


What I see is that she is very passionate and comfortable with JP, and with Ben she is still a little guarded, it seems. Even what she wore with JP in the Fantasy Suite was "come and get me" instead of let's play in the pool.

I actually think it's the other way around. With Ben, she has less uncomfortability with him. With J.P., he is her fantasy guy, but she keeps hammering him EVERY time they are together, as to how he can be sure he would stay with her. This is exactly how it will be if they are together. Every day wondering what he was doing and with whom and if/when he will leave. She will need CONSTANT reassurance from him all the time.

She also doesn't look into his eyes much when she's talking to him. She's either looking down or eating, or in the case of Bentley, using J.P. as her comfort cushion. She's still testing J.P. in a lot of ways. "Will you be there for me if I do this. . .?" "Will you be there for me when I tell you about Bentley? . . . When I tell you how Ryan was here?"

Have you notice the way she just blurts it out, very thoughtlessly, NOT in any way that is sensitive to how J.P. would feel hearing the news? All her uncomfortability is in how comfortable SHE feels at having to tell him. She is NEVER looking in his eyes to register how his eyes change. :sad2:

J.P. is so readable, but Ashley is not registering any of it. :sad2: Whether she picks him or not, she is so wrong for HIM. :sad2: She is too emotionally immature, insecure and self-involved. The process of the show always makes the Bachelor(ette) even more self-involved & narcissistic by the end of the show.

And even though J.P. said he's not there for the competition, to beat the other guy - he is. It's down to the final two, and he wants to know if she will pick him. But, I think he already knows, nothing would last between them. He's already received too many red flags as to how she is. How she wouldn't be there for him.


I still thinks it's a toss up as to which one she will pick. She wants J.P. to be the one. But, her insecurities may get in the way. She may not think he will last, when, just as she did with Brad on their overnite date, she will do something to sabotage their relationship. She might, in that pea bran of hers, know that SHE doesn't have what it takes to make a relationship last between them.

With Ben, she doesn't have that. He just opened up to her, saying finally, he is open enough to really commit to someone & have a relationship. That's very appealing to her. It fills her insecurities. Ben actually has more of what it takes to last with her. He's more open & available to her. Whereas, J.P. is still guarded and she KNOWS it. That's one of the reasons she keeps hammering away at him, asking how he KNOWS he will stay. He doesn't know it. Not when she keeps blurping things like, "I preferred Bentley over you." If she wants more of a sure thing, she's better off picking Ben.

Although, I don't think either relationship will last. :rolleyes:
 
There's no guy I'd like to see as the Batch. I hope they cast someone new & "fresh".
 
::yes:: :thumbsup2




Yes, and he was upset when she referred to both Ben and him as her "relationships." She is so clueless, she doesn't even notice his responses.




I actually think it's the other way around. With Ben, she has less uncomfortability with him. With J.P., he is her fantasy guy, but she keeps hammering him EVERY time they are together, as to how he can be sure he would stay with her. This is exactly how it will be if they are together. Every day wondering what he was doing and with whom and if/when he will leave. She will need CONSTANT reassurance from him all the time.

She also doesn't look into his eyes much when she's talking to him. She's either looking down or eating, or in the case of Bentley, using J.P. as her comfort cushion. She's still testing J.P. in a lot of ways. "Will you be there for me if I do this. . .?" "Will you be there for me when I tell you about Bentley? . . . When I tell you how Ryan was here?"

Have you notice the way she just blurts it out, very thoughtlessly, NOT in any way that is sensitive to how J.P. would feel hearing the news? All her uncomfortability is in how comfortable SHE feels at having to tell him. She is NEVER looking in his eyes to register how his eyes change. :sad2:

J.P. is so readable, but Ashley is not registering any of it. :sad2: Whether she picks him or not, she is so wrong for HIM. :sad2: She is too emotionally immature, insecure and self-involved. The process of the show always makes the Bachelor(ette) even more self-involved & narcissistic by the end of the show.

And even though J.P. said he's not there for the competition, to beat the other guy - he is. It's down to the final two, and he wants to know if she will pick him. But, I think he already knows, nothing would last between them. He's already received too many red flags as to how she is. How she wouldn't be there for him.


I still thinks it's a toss up as to which one she will pick. She wants J.P. to be the one. But, her insecurities may get in the way. She may not think he will last, when, just as she did with Brad on their overnite date, she will do something to sabotage their relationship. She might, in that pea bran of hers, know that SHE doesn't have what it takes to make a relationship last between them.

With Ben, she doesn't have that. He just opened up to her, saying finally, he is open enough to really commit to someone & have a relationship. That's very appealing to her. It fills her insecurities. Ben actually has more of what it takes to last with her. He's more open & available to her. Whereas, J.P. is still guarded and she KNOWS it. That's one of the reasons she keeps hammering away at him, asking how he KNOWS he will stay. He doesn't know it. Not when she keeps blurping things like, "I preferred Bentley over you." If she wants more of a sure thing, she's better off picking Ben.

Although, I don't think either relationship will last. :rolleyes:

I see what you're saying. Of course we only see what the producers want us to see - she might be seriously making out with Ben, too, and we don't see it much.

I think she is sabotaging already when she uses JP as her sounding board and questions him all the time- just like she did with Brad. I think in her narcissistic way she's trying to make him fight for her. She's playing 12 yr old games. :sad2:
 
I was just thinking - did anyone else see the intro where Ashley says Fiji is perfect, because "...the sun is always shining..." And then it rained every day they were there! :lmao:
 
Anybody heard the back story on JP? They keep referring to his heart being broken and all he's been through, but I have never heard any more than that...maybe that's all we are going to know.
 














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