May 10, 2008 Ship of Thieves! Stealing the Magic..AGAIN!!! Panama Canal FL to CA!!! Part 9

[birkner]

Sceen II Act I. Today is Sat and John and I were going to see Sandi and Joe and try to make amends before they left. Well first we had to move Ray from a shared room into a private room. Me, John, the kid, Sandi and the boys showed up to do the move. Joe stayed home. Sandi met us at Mrs. Bush's, where Ray is staying. She didn't want us going to meet her and Joe at their house.

We did the move, I stayed in and talked with Ray while John went outside and talked with Sandi. John extended any help and all his courtesy to her and to Joe. Sandi's reply was that Joe was ready to make amends with John and the kid, in small doses, but not with me. Sandi was standing by her man and following his lead. Meanwhile I have a 17 year relationship with her. She crashed my wedding and got married with me because she was already pregnant. She moved in with us when the boys were only 2 and 3 years old. We took care of her and the boys every time she was in need. We just bought her a car that she needed for work. We just paid for a lavish and wonderful vacation with them. We have overextended ourselves just to get cut off and have Joe control who he sees and how much he sees us.

Scene II Act II. So on the ride home when John told me this I let him know that I'm way too old for high school drama and I will now cut myself off completely from Joe and Sandi too. I told John to continue his relationship with his daughter and do whatever he wanted to with Joe.

John and I got back to the house and talked it out. John has decided to take a stand against his daughter in support of me. He feels she drew the line in the sand and forced him to take a side. He feels that I don't warrant being treated that way by either one of them, especially Sandi.

So be it. I'm tired of playing the role of the wicked stepmother. The other night when she came over to pay us....John did all the talking. I kept my mouth shut. Yet Joe has decided to punish me and accept John and the kid. The kid has absolutely nothing to do with this and although I agreed with John I never said a word. I let it be a conversation between father and daughter.

I hope, for John's sake, someday Sandi can realize the damage she has done by supporting Joe in his madness.

Talk about a dramatic afternoon!

Since I turned 50 last year I decided to cut out all the drama and BS in my life and just live real. To be the best person that I could be everyday without compromising my values.....Yes, John1.....I still do totally agree with you the importance of truth, respect, integrity. Yet I was willing to lie so that my husband could keep his good relationship with his daughter. Just to see his daughter throw it all away for a putz!

The door is closed, the bridge is burned, there is no going back now. She made her bed, now she needs to lie in it!

Deb, I am so sorry Sandi is treating you both so shabbily. Resuming a relationship with John on in her words, "small doses" is an insult to all of you.

She clearly is afraid of Joe's reaction to any decision she might make on her own. I suspect this whole drama was orchestrated by Joe for his own pleasure. I feel terribly sorry for Sandi and the choices she is making. Sandi also clearly has emotional problems and is dependent on an abusive relationship for her own self worth.

However, that being said, you have done all you could do and more for both Sandi and Joe. There may be a day that she will regret her actions but I agree with you for now, she and Joe should be out of your lives.

Just my thoughts...

 

[katypop]

OH, it was a great nap! 2 hours.....felt like a whole night of sleep! Now a quick shower, then drop of my video, pick up Tyler, and we're headed to Wonderlights at the Zoo.

Glad you had a great nap Holly I am envious, I am not a good napper, if I get to sleep at all, I usually feel 10 times worse when I get up, my body figures it's night time and does not want to get moving again Sounds like you have a fun evening planned with Tyler.



Deb-Sending hugs Sorry you've had so much heartache lately. Sandi and Joe obviously don't realize how blessed they have been to have you in their lives. I guess they are going to have to find this out the hard way. Hoping the future holds happier days for all of you.


Kathe

 

[gydell]

Sceen II Act I. Today is Sat and John and I were going to see Sandi and Joe and try to make amends before they left. Well first we had to move Ray from a shared room into a private room. Me, John, the kid, Sandi and the boys showed up to do the move. Joe stayed home. Sandi met us at Mrs. Bush's, where Ray is staying. She didn't want us going to meet her and Joe at their house.

We did the move, I stayed in and talked with Ray while John went outside and talked with Sandi. John extended any help and all his courtesy to her and to Joe. Sandi's reply was that Joe was ready to make amends with John and the kid, in small doses, but not with me. Sandi was standing by her man and following his lead. Meanwhile I have a 17 year relationship with her. She crashed my wedding and got married with me because she was already pregnant. She moved in with us when the boys were only 2 and 3 years old. We took care of her and the boys everytime she was in need. We just bought her a car that she needed for work. We just paid for a lavish and wonderful vacation with them. We have overextended ourselves just to get cut off and have Joe control who he sees and how much he sees us.

Scene II Act II. So on the ride home when John told me this I let him know that I'm way too old for high school drama and I will now cut myself off completely from Joe and Sandi too. I told John to continue his relationship with his daughter and do whatever he wanted to with Joe.

John and I got back to the house and talked it out. John has decided to take a stand against his daughter in support of me. He feels she drew the line in the sand and forced him to take a side. He feels that I don't warrant being treated that way by either one of them, especially Sandi.

So be it. I'm tired of playing the role of the wicked stepmother. The other night when she came over to pay us....John did all the talking. I kept my mouth shut. Yet Joe has decided to punish me and accept John and the kid. The kid has absolutely nothing to do with this and although I agreed with John I never said a word. I let it be a conversation between father and daughter.

I hope, for John's sake, someday Sandi can realize the damage she has done by supporting Joe in his madness.

Talk about a dramatic afternoon!

Since I turned 50 last year I decided to cut out all the drama and BS in my life and just live real. To be the best person that I could be everyday without compromising my values.....Yes, John1.....I still do totally agree with you the importance of truth, respect, integrity. Yet I was willing to lie so that my husband could keep his good relationship with his daughter. Just to see his daughter throw it all away for a putz!

The door is closed, the bridge is burned, there is no going back now. She made her bed, now she needs to lie in it!

So sorry! If it were me I would still send cards for holidays, but not put myself out. I would have to continue to do the rught thing and then it would be their decision as to what to do. I could then say that I did what I knew was right and that's all I can do. If it stays this way Sandi will regret it. Life is not standing still for any of us and anything can happen at any time. So sorry for you and John and try not to let the stress bring you down too much. Stress can really do strange things to people.

 

[scottishwee35]

Gee, everybody must be busy today! Since there's nobody on here to talk to, I suppose I'll take a nap for a couple hours before it's time to pick Tyler up. I could be cleaning, but it's better when Tyler's here to help. And napping is something I definitely can't do when he's here, so that wins!

Hi Holly tyler

True, I often like that, take nap for half hour when I feel overtired when kids were in school or club.

Today, I stayed in and got friend came to see me today. Glad that I didn't go out as it is very cold day, at tea time, start snowing then VERY HEAVY RAINING yuk.

Scottishwee35

 

[gydell]

It's 72 here!

 

[scottishwee35]

Sceen II Act I. Today is Sat and John and I were going to see Sandi and Joe and try to make amends before they left. Well first we had to move Ray from a shared room into a private room. Me, John, the kid, Sandi and the boys showed up to do the move. Joe stayed home. Sandi met us at Mrs. Bush's, where Ray is staying. She didn't want us going to meet her and Joe at their house.

We did the move, I stayed in and talked with Ray while John went outside and talked with Sandi. John extended any help and all his courtesy to her and to Joe. Sandi's reply was that Joe was ready to make amends with John and the kid, in small doses, but not with me. Sandi was standing by her man and following his lead. Meanwhile I have a 17 year relationship with her. She crashed my wedding and got married with me because she was already pregnant. She moved in with us when the boys were only 2 and 3 years old. We took care of her and the boys everytime she was in need. We just bought her a car that she needed for work. We just paid for a lavish and wonderful vacation with them. We have overextended ourselves just to get cut off and have Joe control who he sees and how much he sees us.

Scene II Act II. So on the ride home when John told me this I let him know that I'm way too old for high school drama and I will now cut myself off completely from Joe and Sandi too. I told John to continue his relationship with his daughter and do whatever he wanted to with Joe.

John and I got back to the house and talked it out. John has decided to take a stand against his daughter in support of me. He feels she drew the line in the sand and forced him to take a side. He feels that I don't warrant being treated that way by either one of them, especially Sandi.

So be it. I'm tired of playing the role of the wicked stepmother. The other night when she came over to pay us....John did all the talking. I kept my mouth shut. Yet Joe has decided to punish me and accept John and the kid. The kid has absolutely nothing to do with this and although I agreed with John I never said a word. I let it be a conversation between father and daughter.

I hope, for John's sake, someday Sandi can realize the damage she has done by supporting Joe in his madness.

Talk about a dramatic afternoon!

Since I turned 50 last year I decided to cut out all the drama and BS in my life and just live real. To be the best person that I could be everyday without compromising my values.....Yes, John1.....I still do totally agree with you the importance of truth, respect, integrity. Yet I was willing to lie so that my husband could keep his good relationship with his daughter. Just to see his daughter throw it all away for a putz!

The door is closed, the bridge is burned, there is no going back now. She made her bed, now she needs to lie in it!

Hi Deb

I just want to give you a

I am very sorry about to hear about this. Maybe you feel better when you typed it out and get out of your chest.

I do wish to help you out. But sometime stepdaughter is more difficult.

My friend Alison (she is coming cruise with us), she have similiar problem as you too. Her partner Dave have three grown up childrens and one of them gave Alison hard time nowaday.

I was reading gyell and brinker and they help you too.

Take Care

Scottishwee35

 

[scottishwee35]

Will you have a car to drive or will you be coming with us. We're renting a convertable and probably won't have room for all six of you. But Lisa and Darrell may be able to bring some of you in their car too. I think Kathe is also coming. We'll figure it out when we get there. I'm so glad you decided to come with us. We'll start our party early.

We will work out about the transport as we will arrive Stanford on Thursday and we still thinking about limo or hire car. We will work out after Xmas. We will let you know when the near time

Can anyone advise ? Is best way to hire car for two days cheaper than one way transport from Stanford to Raddison hotel? would be happy if anyone advise us which is best way with the transport. Thanks.

Scottishwee35

 

[gydell]

We will work out about the transport as we will arrive Stanford on Thursday and we still thinking about limo or hire car. We will work out after Xmas. We will let you know when the near time

Can anyone advise ? Is best way to hire car for two days cheaper than one way transport from Stanford to Raddison hotel? would be happy if anyone advise us which is best way with the transport. Thanks.

Scottishwee35

We always do limo so we don't have to mess with car. You are staying at the Raddison so they have shuttle to Space Center. But if you rented a car then you can come and go as you like, but you have to turn it in. Rental car is probably cheaper but with gas prices so high I don't know. Plus with all the luggage you would have to have mini van or large car which cost more too. Limo is more fun!

 

[nskjerven]

Deb:

sorry to hear of your conversation with Sandi. Not the result we all hoped for you.

My back has been bothering me for almost 3 weeks now, although it is definately better than it was the 1st few days. Anyone else bothered by back pain? I don't even know what I did this time (unless it was the raking, scrubbing walls,packing boxes over the last few weeks). I finally went to the doctor and got better meds, but now I feel tired and have stomach pains, so I may not take them much longer.I hate that I never know when this will happen, sure hope it's not during this cruise

Kathe

Sorry to hear of your back pain I can relate unfortunately.

funny you should ask this...last Saturday I woke up with this pain in my shoulder/back. All week I've been trying to mend it with chrico and massage, no luck. Today was really bad...The kids and I (giving directions from the couch mostly) decorated the house and did 8 loads of laundry. I was in so much pain today that I sat and cried. The kids rarely see mom do that so they helped soooooo much in getting the house ready for Daddy tomorrow. It was fun as we unpacked our Xmas cruise Mickey decorations and used mostly them this year. Such fun. Even used our Cruise stockings (mickey/minnie of course) instead of our "real" stockings. I'll try to take pictures tomorrow.

I'm going to call my orthopedic doctor on Monday, as this just isn't a normal strain, I need some real help to heal.

Not to make it worse, but I'm headed out to scrapbook tonight. The kids are staying at my friends. I pick up Paul at midnight another quiet night for us, hey 2 in 2 weeks too bad my back hurts...

Catch you tomorrow,

N

 

[gydell]

Sorry about your back. And at such a busy time of year. Maybe it will get better this week. Sounds like your house is ready for Christmas!

 

[sourmug]

Is there a summary of all the events from this board for the ship of thieves cruise.
Has anyone talked about doing secret mickey>

I joined last spring but have not kept close review over the past few months.

 

[GatorFamily]

Just wanted to say "hi" to everyone. Took me a while to catch up...I'm sure I missed lots. This is the busy time of year. Still have shopping, Christmas shows, parties, volunteering, and getting ready for out of town guests coming for the Christmas. My DD and I are sick today ...her fever is down and I don't know what we have but her friend came to play all day thurs. I think she was sick. I feel like my body was slammed against the wall and my head is killing me


WELCOME to everyone joining in

Only cats 9 and 10 are left for our cruise.

hope they sell out soon so we could get an upgrade It's so sad to see the new prices we only saved $500 because we bought our tix in the summer when a couple cat. came avail. we so overpayed but glad we'll be there and it will be fun

My kids swam in swim meets for years. If the meet started at 8:00 AM, we would always have to be there by 6:30 AM to set up the Ezy-Ups, tents and for the premeet warmup. If it was an away meet, we would have to travel down the night before and get the kids to bed early.

I think the reason they start the meets so early is so the kids can at least have some time to themselves in the afternoons on Saturday and Sunday. The kids would work out before the meet, sleep during the meet and eat like crazy!!

When they swim year round and for the school, gets even more complicated as workouts can start very early, like 5:30 AM. The kids started doing double workouts by the time they were about 10. Our lives were always filled with sports on the weekends, traveling to and from swim meets or other sporting events. Retirement is glorious!!!

Sports do take over our weekends/lives too...look forward to saying retirement is glorious too...I have a feeling I'd miss the kids though...although hopefully I'll have GK to enjoy some day

So sorry! If it were me I would still send cards for holidays, but not put myself out. I would have to continue to do the rught thing and then it would be their decision as to what to do. I could then say that I did what I knew was right and that's all I can do. If it stays this way Sandi will regret it. Life is not standing still for any of us and anything can happen at any time. So sorry for you and John and try not to let the stress bring you down too much. Stress can really do strange things to people.

Deb- so sorry about everything I know it is stressful and absolutely no fun...the distance may be a great help not having to deal with it regularly...nice option to leave it in their court and move on...I agree with you no need to deal with drama life's too short

Calmom (Lisa)-Did Jack win? I voted when I could ...what a cute little guy You must be superwoman with all your little men....my friend just gave birth to her 5th boy her oldest just turned 6 and they are the sweetest boys and very athletic too...my DD is friends with one of her boys and two of them were on her soccer team this year...they scored almost all the goals.

Nannette- We would love to go to visit NASA we'll be staying in Melbourne. My DH and I were talking about it two days ago about going. We were planning to go anyways. I think my DK would love it. My DFIL works on the launch pads that's why my in-laws live in Melbourne. Amazingly enough my DH lived there for years and never went.

Disneylover-sorry about the DFIL hope he's gets better soon. All of the added stress of especially this time of year

Holly- happy to hear your ex is contributing to bills and you are still planning to go to PC ...hope the financial aide get squared away soon

V- TEBOW WON THE HEISMAN!!!!!!

 

[HollyTyler]

Deb, I'm sorry to hear about how things went for you today. Just know that you and John did the best you could, you did the right things, and Sandi will regret her decision someday. I'm sad for her too, for the awful relationship she doesn't realize she's in.

 

[HollyTyler]

Deb:

sorry to hear of your conversation with Sandi. Not the result we all hoped for you.

Sorry to hear of your back pain I can relate unfortunately.

funny you should ask this...last Saturday I woke up with this pain in my shoulder/back. All week I've been trying to mend it with chrico and massage, no luck. Today was really bad...The kids and I (giving directions from the couch mostly) decorated the house and did 8 loads of laundry. I was in so much pain today that I sat and cried. The kids rarely see mom do that so they helped soooooo much in getting the house ready for Daddy tomorrow. It was fun as we unpacked our Xmas cruise Mickey decorations and used mostly them this year. Such fun. Even used our Cruise stockings (mickey/minnie of course) instead of our "real" stockings. I'll try to take pictures tomorrow.

I'm going to call my orthopedic doctor on Monday, as this just isn't a normal strain, I need some real help to heal.

Not to make it worse, but I'm headed out to scrapbook tonight. The kids are staying at my friends. I pick up Paul at midnight another quiet night for us, hey 2 in 2 weeks too bad my back hurts...

Catch you tomorrow,

N

Nan, I hope your doctor is able to help you on Monday! No fun being in pain.

 

[HollyTyler]

Is there a summary of all the events from this board for the ship of thieves cruise.
Has anyone talked about doing secret mickey>

I joined last spring but have not kept close review over the past few months.

WELCOME BACK!

I think everything's sort of in limbo until after final payment date just so we have a firm list of who's coming for sure. Nobody's mentioned secret Mickey, but there are teams being arranged to do fish extender surprises. I think any info is on the other 2 websites created for this cruise. Those sites haven't been active for a few months, but I'm sure will be in January or February. I can't remember the sites off hand, but I know everybody else can tell you.

 

[HollyTyler]

Just wanted to say "hi" to everyone. Took me a while to catch up...I'm sure I missed lots. This is the busy time of year. Still have shopping, Christmas shows, parties, volunteering, and getting ready for out of town guests coming for the Christmas. My DD and I are sick today ...her fever is down and I don't know what we have but her friend came to play all day thurs. I think she was sick. I feel like my body was slammed against the wall and my head is killing me

I'm sorry you and your daughter are sick! Hope you feel better quickly.

 

[GatorFamily]

I'm sorry you and your daughter are sick! Hope you feel better quickly.

thanks it's that time of year when everyone gets sick.

right now I feel I have no time to get better because there is so much to do so I'm trying to get some of my Christmas shopping online...so I'm doing something and won't be so behind.

 

[GatorFamily]

right now I'm trying to figure out what to get for my BIL and SIL...they are planning to get a PS3 so I was thinking getting movies on Blue Ray Disc for them from Amazon...I just ordered a big order from them of books.

 

[GatorFamily]

Holly- a book I thought you may like is total money makeover by Dave Ramsey...he's a financial advisor. When DH and I first got married right after college we had 35k in debt...mostly DH student loan and he helped us pay it off. We were debt free(minus our mortgage) and payed it off 6 years ago. He's strict but it helps a lot. Some friends of mine thank me for it some couldn't do it....maybe you could check it out at the library...I know its a tall order to pay off your student loan in a year though but maybe a jump start...hang in there....nobody likes those student loans

 

[GatorFamily]

Holly- How was Wonderlights at the Zoo tonight? Did Tyler have fun? They do that here but we don't get to it...we went once a few years ago ..it was lots of fun

Monica-I'm glad you got to meet Jackie and her sister....they are a riot! They are so fun all we did was talk and laugh...mostly laugh the entire time when we met