May 10, 2008 Ship of Thieves! Stealing the Magic..AGAIN!!! Panama Canal FL to CA!!! Part 7

[been2marceline]

Ok here are some pics from the Life Celebration we held for my mom yesterday.

This is where we held the bbq. We did have an awesome day. I didn't sleep to well the night before for worrying about the rain. But it turned out great. Thanks again to Nan for the suggestion on where to get the butterflies. It was amazing. I hope some one in my family got some shots as they flew away. I can only hope that I did Mamma proud.

Venetia,

I'm sure that your mom was smiling down during the entire day! I'm sure she was indeed, very proud.

That one lone butterfly was sure amazing!

Karen

 

[been2marceline]

since my mom has me thinking of Thanksgiving, what is on everyone's menu this year? Do you all feast on the same things year to year or do you add anything new?

V,

Still behind and still catching up...

We usually host Thanksgiving and it is always delightful.

DH does all of the cooking and it's always great!

This year, however, we are in WDW and will be dining at Artist Point!

I'll miss the family and the fall decor at our house, but we are still looking forward to Turkey day in WDW!!

As far as coffee goes, my entire family are addicts! I always buy a good French Roast to serve. If you have Sam's Club or Costco, they usually have good ones available at a good price.

Karen

 

[fourmcds]

Thanks everybody! Yup, things are looking much better today! I got a phone call from Tyler's pediatrician telling me they scheduled him for an EEG this Thursday morning just to rule some things out. Since that's one of his dad's days, I e-mailed him to tell him about the appointment. He was really thrilled about the part where the doc says to try to keep Tyler up for 24 hours before the EEG! When he replied, he told me the news that made my day. He went to his appointment today and told the counsellor about Tyler's issues, showed him the things the school wrote, and the guy told him the behavior is abnormal and that Tyler needs to be evaluated by a psychologist. Umm.....DUH! So I guess he just needed to hear it from a neutral party. He told me to go ahead and schedule whatever's necessary through the neuropsychologist Tyler's pediatrician recommended. Such a huge weight off my shoulders!

Well, sort of. After I took care of all the arrangements with the neurologist, set everything up, I e-mailed him to tell him that they told me they don't participate with his insurance plan and that we'd have to pay up front and try to get reimbursement from the insurance company. So he called the pediatrician and is having them send him a list of places to call and now he wants me to cancel everything and let him set up something that he's sure his insurance will deal with.

But overall, this is a MAJOR step in the right direction. I might try to convince him to just keep the evaluation appointments I've set up, get Tyler evaluated and diagnosed, then we can take her recommendations and go somewhere that's covered more by his insurance.......I don't know. Still a bit lost and my brain is too mushy from all the stress to think about it more tonight.

Holly, so glad he is finally opening his eyes to the issues! That must be such a big relief to you.

 

[fourmcds]

Well - I had a horrible day. Since the email stated, "please let me know if these assignments are correct" I emailed back with the 18 or so that belong to the vacant postion. The girl who is supervisor of that postion promptly replied that I was throwing her under a bus and what the hell was my problem. Yes, she put it all in writing and only sent it to me and my old boss (her boss currently). I went to lunch and composed myself and decided not to respond to her, I am through but I replied to my old boss and copied my new boss and my controller. I said something along the lines that I am doing all I can to help out but I cannot be responsible for the entire fiscal year of accounts I know nothing about and could not understand why, as the supervisor of that postion she doesn't seem to have a clue.
It was much more professional than all that but both my boss and controller were appaled at her email, attitude and behavior. They came to me and apologized and assured me it would be taken care of.

I felt better after that.

V....so sorry for your day. I hope that tomorrow is much better. Glad that your boss handled things the right way. I can't believe that happened to you. Here's some for a great day tomorrow with no stresses!

 

[fourmcds]

No, Alex is there with his roommate. John is waiting for Sophia and I to go to bed. We are getting in the way of his "game" watching!

In my house, that would be me, telling Scott and the girls' to go someplace else because I can't see or hear the game (only the seahawks ones though)

 

[been2marceline]

ok I am just looking, but for goodness sake - I need a sewing machine.
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V,

We love our Janome and we gave one to my DSis for her birthday 2 years ago and she loves it too and is sewing up a storm!

She is currently making my daughter a "formal gown" for our cruise in November!!

Karen

 

[BubbaGrump]

ok girl scout leader and mom of elementary children expert info (not) here I go, from what I remember....

If these were Monarchs they do try to join the migration, which in your case would be moving south to Michoacán, Mexico. Not all of them make it to their ancestral home, some land and lay eggs and die, those babies continue that path and cycle.

It is very easy to raise them, well we had an easy time raising painted ladies (not monarchs) we did it! I can now see how it makes sense to have this be a business. I suspect they have many cycles in processes and if they are ready to ship they pull from the inventory of that date, if they don't have orders to fill I assume they release them in the wild, or save some to produce the next cycle.

The lifecycle is short for painted ladies, I think 30-45 days.

the net that we had was about 2-3 feet tall 2 fee wide. We kept it in the house, Molly's room actually.

It was a great process to watch.

If you are interested you can order the kits online and do it at home yourselves. It was a very calming process to watch and joyful to release them when mature. We had all but one grow from the catepillars to butterfly and they laid eggs before we released, but we didn't have the right leaves for them to eat to survive.

If someone else knows more here, please correct or add to this. It was a few years ago we had this whole process in our house and lives.

Thanks Nan! Yes they were Monarchs. You won't believe what happened to me at work today! I work about 5 or 6 miles away from where we had the B.B.Q on Saturday, basically on the other side of town in Santa Barbara. I was looking out the big wearhouse type door when what do i see? A Monarch flutterbye! I stepped outside in time to watch it fly down the long driveway we have at work , thinking to myself " No it couldn't be , could it?" As I turned to go back inside here come about a dozen more over the next few minutes or so ! Gave me the chills! I think V's Mom was just letting me know that shes allright.

 

[granmaz]

Holly - so pleased Tyler's dad is at last going the same direction as you. Lets pray things go smoothly from now on woith a good resolution for you all.

V, what a day at work yesterday. Why do people make life so difficult and unpleasant for others? Well done in your dealing with it.

No, Alex is there with his roommate. John is waiting for Sophia and I to go to bed. We are getting in the way of his "game" watching!

Whatever happened to romance?!

 

[been2marceline]

ok girl scout leader and mom of elementary children expert info (not) here I go, from what I remember....

If these were Monarchs they do try to join the migration, which in your case would be moving south to Michoacán, Mexico. Not all of them make it to their ancestral home, some land and lay eggs and die, those babies continue that path and cycle.

It is very easy to raise them, well we had an easy time raising painted ladies (not monarchs) we did it! I can now see how it makes sense to have this be a business. I suspect they have many cycles in processes and if they are ready to ship they pull from the inventory of that date, if they don't have orders to fill I assume they release them in the wild, or save some to produce the next cycle.

The lifecycle is short for painted ladies, I think 30-45 days.

the net that we had was about 2-3 feet tall 2 fee wide. We kept it in the house, Molly's room actually.

It was a great process to watch.

If you are interested you can order the kits online and do it at home yourselves. It was a very calming process to watch and joyful to release them when mature. We had all but one grow from the catepillars to butterfly and they laid eggs before we released, but we didn't have the right leaves for them to eat to survive.

If someone else knows more here, please correct or add to this. It was a few years ago we had this whole process in our house and lives.

Nan,

We did the whole process as well right after DD did it in 1st grade. We had all but two survive from the chrysalis stage. One died right away, the other had a deformed wing, so we kept her even after releasing the others. We figured she would only live about another 15 to 20 days max. We brought her fresh oranges from the yard and had a water spot for her. Her name was Dolly and she lived, in the large net thingy on my kitchen counter... for 4 months!! I guess we took WAY too good of care of her!

Karen

 

[been2marceline]

Thanks everybody! Yup, things are looking much better today! I got a phone call from Tyler's pediatrician telling me they scheduled him for an EEG this Thursday morning just to rule some things out. Since that's one of his dad's days, I e-mailed him to tell him about the appointment. He was really thrilled about the part where the doc says to try to keep Tyler up for 24 hours before the EEG! When he replied, he told me the news that made my day. He went to his appointment today and told the counsellor about Tyler's issues, showed him the things the school wrote, and the guy told him the behavior is abnormal and that Tyler needs to be evaluated by a psychologist. Umm.....DUH! So I guess he just needed to hear it from a neutral party. He told me to go ahead and schedule whatever's necessary through the neuropsychologist Tyler's pediatrician recommended. Such a huge weight off my shoulders!

Well, sort of. After I took care of all the arrangements with the neurologist, set everything up, I e-mailed him to tell him that they told me they don't participate with his insurance plan and that we'd have to pay up front and try to get reimbursement from the insurance company. So he called the pediatrician and is having them send him a list of places to call and now he wants me to cancel everything and let him set up something that he's sure his insurance will deal with.

But overall, this is a MAJOR step in the right direction. I might try to convince him to just keep the evaluation appointments I've set up, get Tyler evaluated and diagnosed, then we can take her recommendations and go somewhere that's covered more by his insurance.......I don't know. Still a bit lost and my brain is too mushy from all the stress to think about it more tonight.

Holly,

I'm almost caught up!

This IS good news and a GREAT step in the right direction.

Try to find a way to de-stress. Perhaps a bath with a Yankee Candle burning nearby!!

Karen

 

[been2marceline]

V....so sorry for your day. I hope that tomorrow is much better. Glad that your boss handled things the right way. I can't believe that happened to you. Here's some for a great day tomorrow with no stresses!

DITTO!!

Karen

 

[been2marceline]

Thanks Nan! Yes they were Monarchs. You won't believe what happened to me at work today! I work about 5 or 6 miles away from where we had the B.B.Q on Saturday, basically on the other side of town in Santa Barbara. I was looking out the big wearhouse type door when what do i see? A Monarch flutterbye! I stepped outside in time to watch it fly down the long driveway we have at work , thinking to myself " No it couldn't be , could it?" As I turned to go back inside here come about a dozen more over the next few minutes or so ! Gave me the chills! I think V's Mom was just letting me know that shes allright.

Bubba,

That gives me chills!! In a good way!

Karen

 

[HollyTyler]

Holly-I'm happy to hear that your ex has his eyes WIDE open now! At least Tyler will get diagnosed properly and he'll soon be on the road to being helped! Think what a relief this will all be for Tyler when it's done. I'm sure he doesn't want to do the things he does and he's probably just as confused as you are about his behavior.

Holly,

Glad to hear your news about Tyler.

Everything that needs to be said has been said by others. Just follow through and your little guy should get the help he needs!

Holly, so glad he is finally opening his eyes to the issues! That must be such a big relief to you.

Well, he's thrown another hitch into the matter. Since the neuropsychologist is out of network with his insurance provider, we have to pay in full up front before the first appointment. We're talking about $1700 just for the diagnosis. So now he wants me to cancel that appointment and wait for him to find a place where we won't have to do that. Last night I was just too stressed out to think of what to do. MY thoughts are to borrow that money from my mom because neither of us has that amount just sitting in savings (and I'd have to fight to get her to let me pay her back, but that's another issue), tell Tyler's dad that I just feel strongly we should keep these appointments because we could have him evaluated and diagnosed in about 2 weeks due to a cancellation she had. Then we can take that diagnosis to somebody else within his insurance plan for treatment. I just don't think we should wait when we can get an immediate treatment. Am I being unreasonable? His dad's perspective is very logical and I'm not knocking it at all....he tells me he admits and realizes the issues and that Tyler does need to be seen right away, but that we do need to be smart about things financially because he doesn't want to see me suffer financially any more than necessary (he admits the major difference in our incomes). Very good point and smart, but is it unreasonable for me to borrow the money from my mom and take advantage of the appointments we can get immediately? Or since he's in the right mindframe now, should I just work with what he's thinking (because it has ultimately the same result)? Sorry....just a bit confused right now!

 

[mishoe01]

Well, he's thrown another hitch into the matter. Since the neuropsychologist is out of network with his insurance provider, we have to pay in full up front before the first appointment. We're talking about $1700 just for the diagnosis. So now he wants me to cancel that appointment and wait for him to find a place where we won't have to do that. Last night I was just too stressed out to think of what to do. MY thoughts are to borrow that money from my mom because neither of us has that amount just sitting in savings (and I'd have to fight to get her to let me pay her back, but that's another issue), tell Tyler's dad that I just feel strongly we should keep these appointments because we could have him evaluated and diagnosed in about 2 weeks due to a cancellation she had. Then we can take that diagnosis to somebody else within his insurance plan for treatment. I just don't think we should wait when we can get an immediate treatment. Am I being unreasonable? His dad's perspective is very logical and I'm not knocking it at all....he tells me he admits and realizes the issues and that Tyler does need to be seen right away, but that we do need to be smart about things financially because he doesn't want to see me suffer financially any more than necessary (he admits the major difference in our incomes). Very good point and smart, but is it unreasonable for me to borrow the money from my mom and take advantage of the appointments we can get immediately? Or since he's in the right mindframe now, should I just work with what he's thinking (because it has ultimately the same result)? Sorry....just a bit confused right now!

Holly - first of all I'm so glad that Tyler's dad is finally getting it! It's about time! I would tell him to see when he can get an appt w/in the network (before cancelling the one you already have). If they can get him in w/in the same time frame....then cancel yours and go with the one the insurance will cover. If it takes too long to get him in w/in that network, then I don't see there being a issue to borrow the $ from your mom - but would it be an issue for you? It's nice to know that he is thinking about your finances too. Thank you for keeping us informed....since you are part of the family we all want to know what's happening.

 

[mishoe01]

Bubba - I LOVED your story! I got good goose bumps too! It most certainly can be the one flutterbyes that you guys released! Venetia's mom is certainly looking down on you and letting you know she's ok.

 

[mishoe01]

V - glad your bosses are as stunned as you are (and we are) and that they are backing you up. Stand your ground! BTW are you feeling better?

John1 - 1 more to go!!

 

[granmaz]

Well, he's thrown another hitch into the matter. Since the neuropsychologist is out of network with his insurance provider, we have to pay in full up front before the first appointment. We're talking about $1700 just for the diagnosis. So now he wants me to cancel that appointment and wait for him to find a place where we won't have to do that. Last night I was just too stressed out to think of what to do. MY thoughts are to borrow that money from my mom because neither of us has that amount just sitting in savings (and I'd have to fight to get her to let me pay her back, but that's another issue), tell Tyler's dad that I just feel strongly we should keep these appointments because we could have him evaluated and diagnosed in about 2 weeks due to a cancellation she had. Then we can take that diagnosis to somebody else within his insurance plan for treatment. I just don't think we should wait when we can get an immediate treatment. Am I being unreasonable? His dad's perspective is very logical and I'm not knocking it at all....he tells me he admits and realizes the issues and that Tyler does need to be seen right away, but that we do need to be smart about things financially because he doesn't want to see me suffer financially any more than necessary (he admits the major difference in our incomes). Very good point and smart, but is it unreasonable for me to borrow the money from my mom and take advantage of the appointments we can get immediately? Or since he's in the right mindframe now, should I just work with what he's thinking (because it has ultimately the same result)? Sorry....just a bit confused right now!

I can see why you are confused Holly, you just want to get to the bottom of this quickly and rightly so.

It is good that Tyler's dad is finally onboard with this and at least you know things will progress. I wouldn't cancel the arranged appointments yet - wait to hear what his dad comes up with and if it seems like it will take far too long, then I don't see any problem in borrowing from your mother and keeping the earlier appointments.. We always want to help our children.

 

[lillygator]

good morning....hopefully today will be a less stressful day. It certainly is nice out, would much rather be outside.

Holly, that's a hard call. I am not very patient so I would be itching to get to that appointment. Hopefully everything works out for the best and you guys get to the root of the problem very soon.

I am feeling a bit better today. Still not 100% but I can breathe and function!

 

[lillygator]

and for those who asked about the lei's....I was going to plan on bringing a bag full to the port for everyone who wants one.

 

[granmaz]

good morning....hopefully today will be a less stressful day. It certainly is nice out, would much rather be outside.

Holly, that's a hard call. I am not very patient so I would be itching to get to that appointment. Hopefully everything works out for the best and you guys get to the root of the problem very soon.

I am feeling a bit better today. Still not 100% but I can breathe and function!

Glad you are feeling a bit better V. Hopefully bu the weekend you will be fit again and can enjoy your time off.

and for those who asked about the lei's....I was going to plan on bringing a bag full to the port for everyone who wants one.

Thanks V.