May 10, 2008 Ship of Thieves...May 2008 Repo Thread...Part 9

[HollyTyler]

Holly maybe ex is on the right road now. Maybe he sees that Tyler may need more than just words to help him. I hate when you know a kid is trying their best to be good but just can't.

It's heartbreaking because he knows what's right and wrong. He knows what he did and will tell you what caused him to get in trouble, and always says he doesn't know why he did those things and tried his hardest. Of course, there are times when we can tell when it's intentional, just like any other kid his age he misbehaves, and it's very obvious when it's intentional or beyond his control.....AND he always admits when he meant to do something. The teachers have commented on that too, so I'm glad they're paying attention.

 

[taysmom]

Well, they called him today the same three times they called me. The 3rd call was to tell us he's not allowed to come tomorrow to the first day of spring break day care, and they wanted him picked up right after K at 3:30 because they didn't want him coming to the after school care. Yup, he was that out of control. The teacher couldn't even get him to lunch because he couldn't stay focused enough to walk single file with the other kids to the cafeteria, so he had to stay behind and was brought his lunch in the office.

ANYWAY, it worked! He called me on his way to pick Tyler up to tell me about all the phone calls today, I told him I already knew, and he finally said, "I feel so bad for him because when I talked to him on the phone he felt so down on himself because he's trying so hard but can't make his body cooperate. OK....I'm willing to give meds a try, but I'm afraid we'll lose the happy kid that Tyler is and that he'll become zombie-like from the meds."

I assured him the doctors don't want him like that either and they'd adjust his dosage if that happens, but that we can't let him continue to have trouble every single day. And neither of us can keep getting multiple phone calls a day at work or miss work when he's suspended. AND to let Tyler flounder isn't fair either. The school psychologist told me today that his IQ score was extremely high, but he's just not able to get that knowledge out academically. How frustrating must that be for him to know that he knows the stuff he's supposed to know but can't get it out.

SO.....GREAT NEWS ---- DAD FINALLY SAID YES TO MEDS!!!!!! Not that I'm all for it, sure it makes me nervous too, but I think sometimes it's needed in conjunction with the other therapies when the situation is extreme.

I'm so glad that you got him on board. I was thinking alot today about your situation and was going to suggest that you tell him that w/o following the doctor's recommended course of action, he is putting tyler in jeopardy of being kicked out of school. There are so many schools today that have a zero tolerance policy on violence, regardless of the age of the child. You both are very lucky that the school is working so well with you on Tylers issues and secondly that no parents of the children he has been violent with have gone to the school to ask for his removal. His dad should be reminded that, while this is a major problem for tyler, the other kids in his class don't have to be subjected to his behavior just because his dad doesn't want to try medication. AND moving him to another school (as he has suggested) just moves the problem. Additionally moving him w/o treatment would most likely do more damage to tyler than is necessary. In the end, with both parents on board and working together tyler stands a greater chance of handling his medical issues successfully.
SO KUDOS TO YOU!

 

[HollyTyler]

Wow...that sucks. I hope that you get the treatment started before the cruise. It would be nice for both of you if Tyler is able to handle the transition and work with the counselors on board. So both of you can have a fun and restful vacation. It would be terrible if he acted up at kids club, like school and daycare, and was told he couldn't be in kids club. Can you ask his dad to "see" if the meds would help. I mean, what would it hurt to try the doctors suggested course of action. If it doesn't work, then he'll be right and you can look at alternative solutions. I feel for you, I don't have these problems with tays dad because he has no legal custody over taylor...so my word goes! I would be just as frustrated as you if I didn't have that ace in the hole. Her dad disagrees with me on many treatment options with tays allergies etc. BUT he has no choice. I wonder what would happen if you started tyler on the treatment? Would his dad not continue? I hope that you can work this out, after all it's all in Tyler's best interest.

If I had just started Tyler on the meds without getting his dad to agree, he would probably have taken the issue to court because we are supposed to both agree on major medical....which I originally thought would only include surgery or something like that, but since this would be a daily med for a very long time, one of the lawyers at work told me it would fall under that category where we would have to both agree because his dad would have to give it to him 3 days a week. Joint legal and physical.....sucks, but is fair I suppose. Fortunately, we're good now!

ETA: You had a good point about the kids' clubs because last cruise, the 2 times I managed to get him to go (but he only stayed a very short time) each time I picked him up a counselor would tell me about him shoving or hitting somebody or acting up somehow. They did tell me if it happened again he'd not be allowed to come back. I conveniently had forgotten or blocked that memory.

 

[HollyTyler]

I have two friends that have kids with special needs. One is really bad and has to be in special day classes and the other just has severe ADHD. Neither could read befoe they started the meds (one in 2nd grade the other in 3rd). If you went through OT and nothing works, he needs the meds. It is a hard decision to make but the day you start you will wonder why you ever waited.

I hope I feel that way.....and his dad too.

 

[ibouncetoo]

Hey everyone....
My good friends kid (who aspires to be an actor) went down to LA for an audition yesterday and got a CALL BACK for tomorrow. His experience has been call backs equal jobs! Keep your fingers crossed...this is a big movie starring Bruce Willis! He and his mom are so excited, as are we. He is in the Wall E movie this summer but he isn't sure what his part was. He had to wear a red rubber suit with tubes all over it and do his parts in front of a green screen. They didn't explain if they were animating him or what. Anyways, I am just bursting with joy for him. This is what he's wanted to do since he was little. He got a tv movie on hallmark when he was in 1st grade and after that his mom said that if he wanted to continue he had to go to public school and not private school, because they were pulling him so much to go to auditions. He chose to go to public because (and say this like a 7 year old) this is what I want to do....

I'll let you know how it ends up, but keep your fingers crossed.

That so cool!

pardon me if I have told this story again, but here goes....


I assume you've seen Turtle Talk at WDW. We always go to this at Dland. The season it opened was around Wil's bday, I think his 4th or so and we were there. Paul wasn't with us for the moment, I think he was getting food for us all. We 3 went in with much anticipation. We all sat on the lilly pads in front. Crush swam over and talked to......Molly. Wilson was devastated. He didn't understand why he picked Molly and not him. He was crying by the end of the show and walked out in tears. We stood around the exit and he was crying and a CM asked me what was going on. I explained the issue and she said stay here for just a minute. She came back and asked if we would like to go back and talk with Crush one more time. Wilson begrudgingly went back in and sat down with Molly and I. Crush came swimming out for our private audience and had the most wonderful birthday conversation with Wilson. This random act of CM kindness was the best thing ever. Our day was saved. Wilson was a happy boy. The final note to this story is that, since we always go and see Crush when we are in the park...Molly and Wil always sit on the lilly pad. Molly is always choosen to speak with Crush. Wilson has never been choosen. He frequently is sad about this, but we have come to realize that Crush and Wilson "know" each other too well to talk in public. They have a special bond, dude.

That's cool too!


....still a few pages to catch up (and a gap 230-235)....racing to get it done before we're locked out. I mean, my goodness.....what if I have to quote someboday and say "COOL" ????

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[HollyTyler]

Holly - how do you think Tyler will do in the clubs? I can't remember - did he like them on your last cruise?

He didn't do well. Only got him to stay a couple times for a short time and he was misbehaving big time. BUT......since he's used to being in school now, when he wasn't before, that will make a difference. I'll keep my fingers crossed. And he should be on meds by then because I'm giving the doc the OK at our appt next Tuesday, so hopefully he'll be on something he has luck with.

 

[HollyTyler]

Holly....best of luck with everything with Tyler. I hope you and his father can come to an agreement (well, dad opens his eyes and sees what is really going on) over treatment for him soon so that he can learn to gain control of his life again!

Thanks! I hate seeing him flounder, but it looks like we're headed in the right direction.

 

[Mom323]

That so cool!
That's cool too!
....still a few pages to catch up (and a gap 230-235)....racing to get it done before we're locked out. I mean, my goodness.....what if I have to quote someboday and say "COOL" ????

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Far out! I can dig it.

 

[HollyTyler]

Holly what do you legally have to do to get his dad to agree with meds? I'd find out and start the process. Better be prepared.

I actually did talk with one of the attorneys at work this morning, before my meeting at school, before Tyler's dad called me to tell me he's willing to try meds. I was ready to take action! I was told I'd have to send a letter to the friend of the court asking for a mediation over the issue.

 

[HollyTyler]

uh huh, and what about during the day????

 

[gaylean93]

Don't laugh at her. It will make her more mean!

 

[HollyTyler]

Hugs to you Holly. We need to get together on the ship and talk, as I have been in a similar pair of shoes with my kids. We are doing much better now.

 

[mishoe01]

It's good news evening.....(hope it continues for others)

My dear friend Colette just bought a ticket to go to Spain in November. She'll be meeting me there on the 9th of November - we will be picked up by my parents, then we all fly out on the 17th (she will fly back on the same plane to Dulles w/ my parents, then she'll drive them to my sister's house).

This will be so cool - she's never been to Europe before


I am now going to head on out of here....have been dealing w/ a cold this week am tired, so I'm going to go to sleep.

Hope everyone has a good night and will find you on the new thread (I'm sure) tomorrow.

 

[taysmom]

How fun...I only have been to barcelona, but it was beautiful. AND the metro system was great!

 

[gaylean93]

It's good news evening.....(hope it continues for others)

My dear friend Colette just bought a ticket to go to Spain in November. She'll be meeting me there on the 9th of November - we will be picked up by my parents, then we all fly out on the 17th (she will fly back on the same plane to Dulles w/ my parents, then she'll drive them to my sister's house).

This will be so cool - she's never been to Europe before


I am now going to head on out of here....have been dealing w/ a cold this week am tired, so I'm going to go to sleep.

Hope everyone has a good night and will find you on the new thread (I'm sure) tomorrow.

Good night.

 

[EllaEnchanted]

It's good news evening.....(hope it continues for others)

My dear friend Colette just bought a ticket to go to Spain in November. She'll be meeting me there on the 9th of November - we will be picked up by my parents, then we all fly out on the 17th (she will fly back on the same plane to Dulles w/ my parents, then she'll drive them to my sister's house).

This will be so cool - she's never been to Europe before


I am now going to head on out of here....have been dealing w/ a cold this week am tired, so I'm going to go to sleep.

Hope everyone has a good night and will find you on the new thread (I'm sure) tomorrow.

That's great news Monica.....sounds like a fun time is going to be had by all. Now get some good rest and I hope you feel much better tomorrow.

 

[HollyTyler]

It was freaky to me and don't show the kids Titanic or that other one with the sinking ship. We saw one right after we booked and Ethan was freaked for a while.

Tyler's strange......he loves Titanic. And Twister. Nutty kid.

 

[gaylean93]

How fun...I only have been to barcelona, but it was beautiful. AND the metro system was great!

I went to Mexico. The bathrooms are gross.

 

[taysmom]

Twister was a good movie too

 

[taysmom]

You're supposed to go to mexico for the beaches and the tequilla, not the bathrooms