Marrieds choosing not to have kids

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During that conversation, the wife goes on to tell us about how they had a weekend to themselves the other day and ended up really missing their kids and discussing how empty people's lives are when they don't have children :eek: I was a little taken aback and hurt by that comment - I really didn't expect her to say something like that. If it hadn't been late by the time we got home, I probably would have logged in to get sympathy from all of you :sad: DH didn't think she meant it quite the way I took it.

WHY do guys never think it is as bad as it seemed- DH does the same thing- hello- did you just hear the same thing I did?? I don't think I would have needed sympathy- I may have needed someone to get me out of jail for assault:lmao:

B) this couple has been very open about their lack of religious belief. I know a lot of people who would find *their* lives empty because of that lack of religion, so I think it's just more of an example to me about why you shouldn't judge someone else's life from the outside.

Boy I must be DOOMED to a life of misery- I have both, a *lack* of religious belief and a *lack* of kids- Then why am I happy as a clam:confused3

Oh, and then Sunday we went with our friends to the Magic Kingdom

Now just that right there is fantastic- I just popped on over to the MK:rolleyes1 like it is nothing- How great is THAT!:banana:
 
... discussing how empty people's lives are when they don't have children :eek: I was a little taken aback and hurt by that comment - I really didn't expect her to say something like that.

She felt "empty" because something she was used to wasn't there. In all fairness, I'd feel empty if my dogs, cat & nonDW-appreciating DFi weren't around. Empty because there's no kids in my house? Nope, uh-uh, no way. After my sister leaves with my niece, all I can think is "Thank God I can give her back!" Seriously, I love the kid, but I have zero maternal instinct.

Oh, and Hixski - LOVE the Mondavi Fume! One of my coworkers got back from a tour at Mondavi a few weeks ago - she loved it.
 
Oh, and Hixski - LOVE the Mondavi Fume! One of my coworkers got back from a tour at Mondavi a few weeks ago - she loved it.

MIL swears by Mondavi. We found a new (to us) brand called Llano that was pretty darn good. MIL gave me a bottle of their gerwurtztraminer for my bday (my wine of choice) and it was a lot more mellow than the Fetzer I usually drink.

I'm not much of a wine type but I do like that gerwurtztraminer and another kind DH bought a couple weeks ago. I don't remember the name. Claret maybe? I'm more of a rum girl lol..to the points my friends call me a pirate.
 

How very very strange! I posted a reply to this about 20 min ago & it poofed! Let's try this again, shall we?

I'm not much of a wine type but I do like that gerwurtztraminer and another kind DH bought a couple weeks ago. I don't remember the name. Claret maybe? I'm more of a rum girl lol..to the points my friends call me a pirate.

CAUTION: You are about to be lectured by a professional wine geek!

"Claret" was a term originally used by the English for red wines that came from English holdings in France (I think it was Gascony, but can't remember). Today, it is a generic term for any blended red wine.

If you like gewurz, try to find an Argentinian torrontes (a grape type). They can be tough to find, but DIRT cheap & very similar flavour profile to a gewurz. OK, wine lecture over.

Random thought - What kind of job do some people on the DIS have that allows them to post from work?? I NEED a job like that!!
 
How very very strange! I posted a reply to this about 20 min ago & it poofed! Let's try this again, shall we?



CAUTION: You are about to be lectured by a professional wine geek!

"Claret" was a term originally used by the English for red wines that came from English holdings in France (I think it was Gascony, but can't remember). Today, it is a generic term for any blended red wine.

If you like gewurz, try to find an Argentinian torrontes (a grape type). They can be tough to find, but DIRT cheap & very similar flavour profile to a gewurz. OK, wine lecture over.

Random thought - What kind of job do some people on the DIS have that allows them to post from work?? I NEED a job like that!!

Hey I don't mind learning. In fact, if I have any sort of wine question I know who to come to now. Be warned!! :rotfl:

The claret was a blended red and I liked it a lot. I just don't normally like red wines. I've tried several and they just haven't done it for me, but I did like that claret. Where can I find that torrontes online?

LOL I don't have a job. I've stayed home for a few years now because between dh & I & all our animals, if someone isn't here to take care of business (errands, cleaning, etc) it just won't get done. Not enough hours in the day for that. We're just naturally messy and it takes a LOT of effort to keep our house from looking awful. I'm working on getting my travel agent classes finished (by the end of next weekend hopefully) and the classes are online. Once I get that done, I can most likely find an agency somewhere I can work from home. I'd prefer that. I like being able to be comfortable while I work instead of tugging on girdles and having to worry about hair/makeup every morning. I don't dress up real well. Remember Marla from League of Their Own? LOL That's me when I try to dress up. :eeyore:
 
I work in IT at night 3 or 4 nights a week. I am the boss and the only one left on my shift so I can do whatever I want. Too bad they will be laying off May 1. I have been talking with head hunters the last couple of weeks. Sounds promising so far. Even if I don't find something permanent right away I can do long term contracting.
 
Where can I find that torrontes online?

I don't know what state you're in, but I've used this site to find wine reviews sometimes - pretty cool site if you're looking to see who delivers in or to your state. http://www.wine-searcher.com/wine-select.lml

I may have to take back the dirt cheap part though - I was pretty surprised to see the Argentinian wines seem to retail for the same price in the US as they do here! Considering your $$'s worth more & the horrendous taxes on liquor here, I would have expected to see wines that sell here for $8 selling for $4 there. Anyway, there's still some good stuff here. Try the "Don David" if you can - I loved it!

Hixski, can you believe my mother wouldn't let me take Computers in high school as an elective?? She said it was only for people that wanted to be secretaries :rotfl: Seemed to think I would only learn to type! *Sigh* If only I had ignored her.
 
Random thought - What kind of job do some people on the DIS have that allows them to post from work?? I NEED a job like that!!
I would never use my work computer for non-business purposes like posting on the DIS, of course :angel: (You're all believing this, right?)

I'm an engineer, so sometimes I just have to take a brain break for a few minutes when I've been working on something for a while and I"m not getting anywhere with it. I work in a project-based environment, so I figure as long as I get my work done on time and with good quality, then it doesn't hurt if I take the occasional time out. Plus, I've subscribed to this thread, so I'll check my email during the day, see that it's been updated, and go check it out. I really do try not to spend too much time here while at work ;)
 
WHY do guys never think it is as bad as it seemed- DH does the same thing- hello- did you just hear the same thing I did??
DH isn't too bad about that. Actually, it's probably more like I'm usually not the type that reads between the lines, so he and I are about even :) I have a female friend whom I realize I've probably unintentionally offended in the past. She tends to be more sensitive to "unspoken messages" and I think can pick up on stuff that I missed but can sometimes misinterpret what other people mean based on her own experiences. I would like to believe that this other friend just meant that their lives seemed empty in retrospect or that she was referring to having free time, not that all childless/childfree adults are leading meaningless lives. If it turns out that she did mean it in the negative way and brings it up again, well then guess who I'm going to start inviting to church? :rotfl:

Now just that right there is fantastic- I just popped on over to the MK:rolleyes1 like it is nothing- How great is THAT!:banana:
Yep, there are definitely advantages to living in Orlando! :thumbsup2
 
ended up really missing their kids and discussing how empty people's lives are when they don't have children​

I suppose we shouldn't be judgemental. I've spent a fair amount of time wondering how empty people's lives are when they've lost the ability to discuss anything but their children. ;)
 
ended up really missing their kids and discussing how empty people's lives are when they don't have children​

I suppose we shouldn't be judgemental. I've spent a fair amount of time wondering how empty people's lives are when they've lost the ability to discuss anything but their children. ;)

:worship: Talk about a right on stinger. That's super super true. I don't understand how once intelligent adults who had a personality can completely lose their identity once they have kids. Dh & I were talking about this exact thing this past weekend. He made the observation that our tightest circle of friends..the friends we hang out with most.. are just that because of 1-the CF factor (whatever individual reason it may be) and 2-our views about kids in general. Even if kids were in the picture for any one of us, it wouldn't change our friendship because we're not the kind of people who are going to lose our identity to morph into MommytoBayleigh (lol yes I mispelled it on purpose). We're also of the school that "kids are to be seen and not heard" which is what each of our parents told us repeatedly. We're all pretty similar in our views and the general understanding is there. We have another friend who just got married to a girl with a 6 yr old. Instafamily. He's tried to become father of the year and has totally morphed into the type of person who has no identity. We always *knew* he would be that kind of person, but there's no fear in that happening with our tighter circle. :::ramble off:::
 
So are all of us CF folk recovering from a wild & crazy St Patrick's Day?

Not so wild here, but did have a Kilkenny or 2, while DFi had some Irish whisky.

Crappy day out today - wild wind & freezing rain. Definitely not leaving the house today. Was like this on Wed morning, & when I left home to go to a tasting, I COMPLETELY wiped out on the ice. Feet flew up over my head & landed on my elbow. Didn't think it was too bad, so caught my bus & went to the tasting. By the time I got there my whole arm was throbbing & even my fingers were swollen! Todays' the 1st day I've really been able to move my arm. Darn, still too sore to do housework though! :rolleyes1

Guess I'll just have to hang out in front of the computer for the rest of the day!
 
I suppose we shouldn't be judgemental. I've spent a fair amount of time wondering how empty people's lives are when they've lost the ability to discuss anything but their children. ;)
I've come to the conclusion that you "Marrieds choosing not to...",as well as the gay/lesbian crowd, are the only reason I continue to read the boards!

Most "regular" posters belong to "The Mutual Admiration Society", shamelessly kissing each other's a$$es while starting every posted response with "I'm sorry".

Feeling the need to apologize for having an opinion that may not be agreed with(before it's even stated)is pathetic!

Advice involving child rearing decisions that should only be made by the parent(s) of that child, family matters that have no business being posted and "talk me out of..." threads, asinine, to say the least!

Walking on eggshells while bending over with lips puckered...no thanks!

Thank God for those of you who think outside the box, while making no excuses! I'm assured that some normalcy still exists in this world!
 
Walking on eggshells while bending over with lips puckered...no thanks!

Yes. heaven forbid we say or do something that offends. Why we might actually learn to discuss and tolerate our differences if we weren't so PC.

Imagine that. A society where people actually openly discussed differences and learned true tolerance.
 
Yes. heaven forbid we say or do something that offends. Why we might actually learn to discuss and tolerate our differences if we weren't so PC.

Imagine that. A society where people actually openly discussed differences and learned true tolerance.

I am so sick of the PC bull and everyone getting their feelings hurt over every little thing. People don't have a thick enough skin anymore. :headache:
 
All this political correctness got me thinking. Since I am not sooo old to be called eccentric yet.....I am just a free spirit. I can live with that. I would much rather be a free spirit than a person that has no identity other than mommy to someone. I can understand my mother who is 74 thinking she is just MRS. SO and SO. That being her identity since I was born 47 yrs ago. She worked till she was pregnant with me. They had to take leave back then once you started showing. (My how times have changed) She never got the chance to go back to work. I have had to ask her what would happen if something happened to my father. I said you would only be MRS. SO and SO and have everything in my fathers name. At least she understood that she needed to be a person again in order to protect herself.

I think the women that worry more about being a SAHM and being there just for the kids are doing themselves a big disservice. Do any of these women worry about being able to take care of themselves first if anything happens. Or especially if there are children involved. I can't believe the 20 somethings I hear talking about finding a man to take care of them. Just makes me crazy. Ok, didn't mean to vent but on top of being politically correct some of these women make me crazy.:crazy:
 
Today's "For Better or Worse" made me giggle. Thought you all might enjoy it too:

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Love it!:lmao:

I was visiting my SIL today (she has 2 kids but she is not a mommy nazi) anyway she made a good reference about me today- she said I wear "kid-proof armour":lmao:

Everything "kid" oriented just bounces off of me!

I like my armour just fine!:banana:
 
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