March 2023 Direct Sales

Honestly I'm curious to see how much direct sales spike up once VDH actually goes on sale. And also if the annual pass coming back has any significant effect.

Now that the lowered the new buyer minimum to 100 points, around the same time of APs returning, I don’t see how there will be a way to tease that out.
 
Honestly I'm curious to see how much direct sales spike up once VDH actually goes on sale. And also if the annual pass coming back has any significant effect.
Sadly we will only likely see the pace of VDH sales once per year, when dues statements are published. Orange County, CA does not offer easy to access tools to review sales.
 

Honestly I'm curious to see how much direct sales spike up once VDH actually goes on sale. And also if the annual pass coming back has any significant effect.
I can't imagine there being a significant spike in direct sales just because of APs. I think most current owners will already have blue card eligibility to buy the sorcerer pass and would rather save big on resale contracts and if they don't have eligibility then they would rather just buy the incredipass. For prospective members, I don't think availability of APs are a major factor in joining DVC to begin with.
 
I can't imagine there being a significant spike in direct sales just because of APs. I think most current owners will already have blue card eligibility to buy the sorcerer pass and would rather save big on resale contracts and if they don't have eligibility then they would rather just buy the incredipass. For prospective members, I don't think availability of APs are a major factor in joining DVC to begin with.
As a resale only member, I would've definitely been tempted to buy direct for the membership extras if they lowered those to 100 pts. But I didn't feel the urgency at 150.
 
As a resale only member, I would've definitely been tempted to buy direct for the membership extras if they lowered those to 100 pts. But I didn't feel the urgency at 150.
I thought they made sense at a 75 point minimum back when you got a discount on the Gold AP and not just access. At 100 points I was iffy. At 150 with no discount it’s a clear no to me, not unless I was spending 3+ weeks a year at WDW.
 
There will be an uptick in sales in RIV if VGF sells out before POLY or economy recovers as the total monthly sales will be much higher and thus the 75% range of points from active sold resorts won't be like 95k points but possibly 150k points.

VGF selling out a tad faster will dump more people in to RIV as it will be the only actively sold WDW resort.
The problem is that the Fed just today put out it expects a recession in coming months. The job report for Jan supports this. RIV may show an uptick, but it would need to be a significant increase to change the anticipated sold date on RIV.
This has nothing to do with resale restrictions as those who know about it have already made up their minds and most new borrowers have no clue
 
I don’t think BPK is as popular as people think it was going to be. With all those new resort studios, you don’t really haveto own there to stay. Better yet, you can use SAP you bought for $60pp to stay there. If anything, Disney probably angered existing VGF owners for making the original Villas harder to book.

To be fair I don't think BPK has really played out properly yet. They got over-eager and over-declared the units. So there's been a million un-purchased points of bookable rooms flooding the system since last summer.
 
I’m at Aulani now. Asked a guide today and he said it’s almost sold out. I don’t think he knew what he was talking about 😂
I think Aulani might sell more direct points if DVC had a discounted DLand Magic key. It could be an “option 2” for VDH lookers that need a lower entry ppp because Aulani will probably always have better incentives. They could probably still access the. VDH deluxe studios at 7-MK the.

It has to be hard to sell Aulani direct once people learn they can get resale for 90ish pp.
 
What is the anticipated sold date? Who determined it? And how was it determined?
I used the last 2 months average and divided by the remaining points, came out to about 6 yr 3 mos, but let's just say 6 years as a round number.
 
There were 728 WDW sales by Disney Vacation development in March.

That search had Disney Vacation Development as the grantor.
 
I think Aulani might sell more direct points if DVC had a discounted DLand Magic key. It could be an “option 2” for VDH lookers that need a lower entry ppp because Aulani will probably always have better incentives. They could probably still access the. VDH deluxe studios at 7-MK the.

It has to be hard to sell Aulani direct once people learn they can get resale for 90ish pp.
Man I wish Disneyland Magic Key had a substantial pass discount (not that bs $20 lol). I probably would've bought direct if so...
 
I used the last 2 months average and divided by the remaining points, came out to about 6 yr 3 mos, but let's just say 6 years as a round number.

Once new inventory goes on sale (Poly 2, VDH, random incentives like AKV currently) I think the RIV rate of sales starts to stall. Even more rapidly if Poly is same association and no restrictions (which I’m convinced it will be).
 
Will DVC will have significant points remaining at RIV, VGF, Aulani, VDH when Poly2 sales start?
 
Disney visa offers special offers at time- it was like an extra $1250 on top of the discounts for RR if you bought 250 or more points. Then you got 2% more form the downpayment and 6 months interest-free.

But once you are done with a DVC purchase get rid of the Disney visa as it is not as good as many other cards.
What cards do you recommend?
 
This reminds me of 2009 when DVC opened AKV Kidani, SSR Treehouse, BLT, and VGC that same year. DVC offered huge discounts. We bought BLT for $96 direct, but it was as low as $91 for higher purchases.

To this day, we kick ourselves for not buying VGC which was as low as $85/point direct.
Oh yea! We are waiting to see what happens with Poly2... a "huge discount" would be awesome!
 



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