Marathon Weekend 2016

[IamTrike]

I feel like it would drive me crazy to run with a bag...but I've never tried it & I'm the one who just signed up to run a race holding a pumpkin. So....

I'm sure the logistics of holding a pumpkin will make far easier than what was essentially a glorified spi belt.

 

[Waiting2goback]

As you are becoming more experienced, you are beginning to realize that sometimes things happen that are beyond your control. We can train and train, but stuff happens. Turned ankle, pulled muscle, tendonitis, plantar fasciitis, etc., etc. The good news - none of these things happen to couch potatoes. They are happening to us because we are actively living our lives. I'll happily accept these setbacks under those conditions. I will never allow myself to miss a race due to laziness, but accept missed races due to injury.

These are all good points. And no, I am not a couch potato any more. I will figure this all out. I am planning to do an easy run on Wednesday and if my shin doesn't hurt I will give the race a go next weekend. If the shin still hurts I will most likely not run the race, as much as it is killing me to say it.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I feel like it would drive me crazy to run with a bag...but I've never tried it & I'm the one who just signed up to run a race holding a pumpkin. So....

Hope it is a small pumpkin.

 

[dancingtodisney]

I'm hoping to get some advice. I've got an 18mile run scheduled for this weekend, I ran 16miles on Saturday which was my longest run ever but I got to run it with my sister and my Dad. This time I'll be going it alone and up until now the longest I've run on my own is 10k so I've feeling a bit nervous.

First of all I've read here about podcasts and such, I find I struggle when I listen to music as it affects my pace (fast songs I run faster and slow songs I run slower), any recommendations for specific ones? I've never listened to any before. I'd like a distraction while running.

Secondly as for fueling so far I've been eating peanut butter on toast/bagel in the morning before my run and bringing poweraid, water and cliff blocks with me to run do you think this is still sufficient at this mileage?

Finally I've heard conflicting views on foam rolling after a long run. My physio said you shouldn't foam roll after a long run as the muscles will be tight and you can cause damage whereas a coach at my running club says to foam roll before and after every run. What do you do?

 

[AThrillingChase]

I'm hoping to get some advice. I've got an 18mile run scheduled for this weekend, I ran 16miles on Saturday which was my longest run ever but I got to run it with my sister and my Dad. This time I'll be going it alone and up until now the longest I've run on my own is 10k so I've feeling a bit nervous.

First of all I've read here about podcasts and such, I find I struggle when I listen to music as it affects my pace (fast songs I run faster and slow songs I run slower), any recommendations for specific ones? I've never listened to any before. I'd like a distraction while running.

Secondly as for fueling so far I've been eating peanut butter on toast/bagel in the morning before my run and bringing poweraid, water and cliff blocks with me to run do you think this is still sufficient at this mileage?

Finally I've heard conflicting views on foam rolling after a long run. My physio said you shouldn't foam roll after a long run as the muscles will be tight and you can cause damage whereas a coach at my running club says to foam roll before and after every run. What do you do?

The mickey milers podcast is a pretty good one. They have Galloway on for shows.

 

[kevdad]

Finally I've heard conflicting views on foam rolling after a long run. My physio said you shouldn't foam roll after a long run as the muscles will be tight and you can cause damage whereas a coach at my running club says to foam roll before and after every run. What do you do?

I foam roll before and stretch after each run. I agree with your physio. Foam rolling is basically a deep tissue massage which is only recommended at least 24-48 hours after a long run. That's my experience anyway, would love to hear what others think.

 

[camaker]

I'm hoping to get some advice. I've got an 18mile run scheduled for this weekend, I ran 16miles on Saturday which was my longest run ever but I got to run it with my sister and my Dad. This time I'll be going it alone and up until now the longest I've run on my own is 10k so I've feeling a bit nervous.

First of all I've read here about podcasts and such, I find I struggle when I listen to music as it affects my pace (fast songs I run faster and slow songs I run slower), any recommendations for specific ones? I've never listened to any before. I'd like a distraction while running.

Secondly as for fueling so far I've been eating peanut butter on toast/bagel in the morning before my run and bringing poweraid, water and cliff blocks with me to run do you think this is still sufficient at this mileage?

Finally I've heard conflicting views on foam rolling after a long run. My physio said you shouldn't foam roll after a long run as the muscles will be tight and you can cause damage whereas a coach at my running club says to foam roll before and after every run. What do you do?

Have you thought about trying audiobooks? I got tired of listening to the same music while I ran so I tried an Audible subscription and loved it. You can definitely get lost in the story and chew up the miles.

 

[Waiting2goback]

I'm hoping to get some advice. I've got an 18mile run scheduled for this weekend, I ran 16miles on Saturday which was my longest run ever but I got to run it with my sister and my Dad. This time I'll be going it alone and up until now the longest I've run on my own is 10k so I've feeling a bit nervous.

First of all I've read here about podcasts and such, I find I struggle when I listen to music as it affects my pace (fast songs I run faster and slow songs I run slower), any recommendations for specific ones? I've never listened to any before. I'd like a distraction while running.

Secondly as for fueling so far I've been eating peanut butter on toast/bagel in the morning before my run and bringing poweraid, water and cliff blocks with me to run do you think this is still sufficient at this mileage?

Finally I've heard conflicting views on foam rolling after a long run. My physio said you shouldn't foam roll after a long run as the muscles will be tight and you can cause damage whereas a coach at my running club says to foam roll before and after every run. What do you do?

I have a few podcasts I listen to. Mickey Miles is one, although I don't listen while I run because they shows aren't long enough for even an easy run, and I don't want to have to stop in the middle of a run to fiddle with my phone and switch podcasts.

I listen to the following:

Disunplugged- Disney related
Runner Academy
Everyday Runner- these two are by the same host
Marathon Training Academy- I didn't like this one at first, I thought they were boring, but now I think they are funny together
The Marathon Show- There is a new host, who I haven't heard yet (Eddie McCoy) but the old shows are so full of energy I still listen to them over and over, especially the Disney races. Eddie does a lot of Disney races so they should be good too. He did a show at the Disneyland 1/2 last weekend.


I think as long as you bring enough Cliff Blocks and fluids that should be a fine fueling plan.

I think you need to see what works for you as far as a stretching and foam rolling plan. Everyone is different. Jeff Galloway says there is no need to do any of this if you are a runner. If I am feeling extra tight I will use the foam roller and do some stretching.

 

[Waiting2goback]

I did an easy run this morning (4.5 miles) to see where I stand so I know if I can run my race this Saturday. My shin didn't hurt, which is good news. My foot hurt, but not as bad as it had been. Also good news. Mentally it felt great to be back out there. I could feel the stress leave my body as I was running. I was in pain all day at work though.

I really want to run the race Saturday. I am just trying to convince myself it would be OK to run it and not improve my time. And then I don't know if it makes sense to run the race at all if I am not going to improve my time.

 

[rteetz]

I have a few podcasts I listen to. Mickey Miles is one, although I don't listen while I run because they shows aren't long enough for even an easy run, and I don't want to have to stop in the middle of a run to fiddle with my phone and switch podcasts.

I listen to the following:

Disunplugged- Disney related
Runner Academy
Everyday Runner- these two are by the same host
Marathon Training Academy- I didn't like this one at first, I thought they were boring, but now I think they are funny together
The Marathon Show- There is a new host, who I haven't heard yet (Eddie McCoy) but the old shows are so full of energy I still listen to them over and over, especially the Disney races. Eddie does a lot of Disney races so they should be good too. He did a show at the Disneyland 1/2 last weekend.


I think as long as you bring enough Cliff Blocks and fluids that should be a fine fueling plan.

I think you need to see what works for you as far as a stretching and foam rolling plan. Everyone is different. Jeff Galloway says there is no need to do any of this if you are a runner. If I am feeling extra tight I will use the foam roller and do some stretching.

Yep love the Disunplugged as it is done as a round table of the people who own and run the Disboards.

The marathon show just debuted in its new form this past Thursday. Eddie McCoy was a frequent visitor on the Mickey Milers Podcast. He has said he will try to keep the format of the show the same with some slight changes. He will continue to run Disney races as he always has before.

 

[FFigawi]

First of all I've read here about podcasts and such, I find I struggle when I listen to music as it affects my pace (fast songs I run faster and slow songs I run slower), any recommendations for specific ones? I've never listened to any before. I'd like a distraction while running.

There's nothing wrong with music affecting your pace. In fact, changing your pace during a run can be good because it keeps your body from getting to used to the same pace all the time. There are tools available that will sort through your music library and pick out songs that have a certain number of beats per minute. You can use them to help choose a playlist that keeps you running at a certain pace. If that sounds too complicated, Rock My Run offers a service that does the same thing. You pick the type of music and the tempo, and it will give you a playlist to match. In any case, whether you use a podcast or music, for safety reasons, please only wear one headphone while running outside so you can still hear and be aware of what is happening around you.

Secondly as for fueling so far I've been eating peanut butter on toast/bagel in the morning before my run and bringing poweraid, water and cliff blocks with me to run do you think this is still sufficient at this mileage?

That's all I ever use on any of my long runs, well except that I mix in Clif gels and Sport Beans too. You just need to experiment with how many Clif bloks you need to take and how often to take them. Some people take one blok every 15 minutes, others take three once an hour, and all kinds of other combinations. Use your long runs to try different intervals so you'll know the ideal one for you on race day.

Finally I've heard conflicting views on foam rolling after a long run. My physio said you shouldn't foam roll after a long run as the muscles will be tight and you can cause damage whereas a coach at my running club says to foam roll before and after every run. What do you do?

I don't foam roll, but lots of people swear by it. I swear by ice baths, but lots of people say that doesn't work for them. Like with so many things in running, we each need to find out what works for us, as we're all an experiment of one. I like ice baths, regular massages, and yoga. That keeps me from being too overly tight. Your mileage may vary.

 

[SarahDisney]

Weird question ... does anyone know how raccoons feel about humans? Do they usually avoid us, run away, attack ... any idea? Does it change if the raccoon is rabid?

There was a raccoon on my running path today. When I passed it on my way out it was lying down, and I honestly thought it was dead until I saw it move its tail. On my way back it was up and moving but staying on the path. I had no idea what to do ... I had to get past it to get home, but I was afraid it would attack me. I freaked out, and then decided to just sprint past it. It didn't attack, but it didn't run away either. It just stayed there.
Thankfully, I mostly use this path for my long runs, so I don't have to worry about it again until Sunday. But it really freaked me out. I don't do things with 4 legs.

 

[FFigawi]

They're typically pretty fearless in most suburban settings. They normally won't attack you, but they don't back away either. They just like to sit and watch you go about your business. If one starts threatening or attacking you, it's probably rabid. If it's just sitting there watching, it probably is not.

 

[dancingtodisney]

Thanks everyone for the comments and advice I really appreciate it!

The mickey milers podcast is a pretty good one. They have Galloway on for shows.

Thank you I'll have to check that out, it seems to be a popular choice as well! We've just started using the run/walk method with timed intervals for our really long runs so it would be interesting to listen to the shows with him on!

I foam roll before and stretch after each run. I agree with your physio. Foam rolling is basically a deep tissue massage which is only recommended at least 24-48 hours after a long run. That's my experience anyway, would love to hear what others think.

Ye I was thinking it would be best to stick with my physio's advice, she had said to either ice bath or have a hot bath with epsom salts afterwards instead so I'll continue doing that.

Have you thought about trying audiobooks? I got tired of listening to the same music while I ran so I tried an Audible subscription and loved it. You can definitely get lost in the story and chew up the miles.

No I hadn't actually, that's a great idea too, I will have to try that out.

I have a few podcasts I listen to. Mickey Miles is one, although I don't listen while I run because they shows aren't long enough for even an easy run, and I don't want to have to stop in the middle of a run to fiddle with my phone and switch podcasts.

I listen to the following:

Disunplugged- Disney related
Runner Academy
Everyday Runner- these two are by the same host
Marathon Training Academy- I didn't like this one at first, I thought they were boring, but now I think they are funny together
The Marathon Show- There is a new host, who I haven't heard yet (Eddie McCoy) but the old shows are so full of energy I still listen to them over and over, especially the Disney races. Eddie does a lot of Disney races so they should be good too. He did a show at the Disneyland 1/2 last weekend.


I think as long as you bring enough Cliff Blocks and fluids that should be a fine fueling plan.

I think you need to see what works for you as far as a stretching and foam rolling plan. Everyone is different. Jeff Galloway says there is no need to do any of this if you are a runner. If I am feeling extra tight I will use the foam roller and do some stretching.

Thanks for your detailed response, lots of great info there and plenty of choices with the podcasts I'll have enough to keep me going until January!

I've had issues lately with tight muscles so I really wanted to make sure I'm doing the best I can to stop it affecting my running. I'm also thinking I might need to start doing other exercises to build strength in my legs as the trainers at my gym keep telling me I should be. As a relatively new runner taking on a big challenge I find i get a bit of information overload sometimes and I get a bit overwhelmed and think I'm not doing everything I should be.

As for the fueling I'm sure I'm just overthinking things, I felt fine last weekend with my 16mile, I had maybe 4 cliff blocks and an oreo cookie (that was more a treat than good fueling but it did the trick)

Yep love the Disunplugged as it is done as a round table of the people who own and run the Disboards.

The marathon show just debuted in its new form this past Thursday. Eddie McCoy was a frequent visitor on the Mickey Milers Podcast. He has said he will try to keep the format of the show the same with some slight changes. He will continue to run Disney races as he always has before.

Oh that sounds good, and I presume then it's about all things Disney in general? I'll have to check it out.

Interesting... I think I've got plenty now to get me through 18miles, I'll have to get downloading tonight.

There's nothing wrong with music affecting your pace. In fact, changing your pace during a run can be good because it keeps your body from getting to used to the same pace all the time. There are tools available that will sort through your music library and pick out songs that have a certain number of beats per minute. You can use them to help choose a playlist that keeps you running at a certain pace. If that sounds too complicated, Rock My Run offers a service that does the same thing. You pick the type of music and the tempo, and it will give you a playlist to match. In any case, whether you use a podcast or music, for safety reasons, please only wear one headphone while running outside so you can still hear and be aware of what is happening around you.

I just found I was running too fast and getting out of breath or not paying enough attention to my breathing and getting a stitch. I think because I'm a dancer and make up routines a lot that when I'm listening to music I'm sort of dancing in my head a bit and it really messes with my running mojo. I can listen to music fine on the threadmil because obviously the pace is set. I might give it a go again and yes I always go for just the one earphone.

That's all I ever use on any of my long runs, well except that I mix in Clif gels and Sport Beans too. You just need to experiment with how many Clif bloks you need to take and how often to take them. Some people take one blok every 15 minutes, others take three once an hour, and all kinds of other combinations. Use your long runs to try different intervals so you'll know the ideal one for you on race day.

I've heard of these sports beans they sound good! I tried a gel once in the Wine & Dine (bad runner trying a new thing on race day!) and I didn't like it but I might try again with a different flavour. Good point, I'll pay more attention to when I'm taking them so I know what works.

I don't foam roll, but lots of people swear by it. I swear by ice baths, but lots of people say that doesn't work for them. Like with so many things in running, we each need to find out what works for us, as we're all an experiment of one. I like ice baths, regular massages, and yoga. That keeps me from being too overly tight. Your mileage may vary.

I've never had an ice bath. I would have LOVED one after our first long run over in Spain as it was HOT HOT HOT outside. When you take an ice bath how long do you try to stay in?

Thanks again everyone!

 

[LSUlakes]

Weird question ... does anyone know how raccoons feel about humans? Do they usually avoid us, run away, attack ... any idea? Does it change if the raccoon is rabid?

There was a raccoon on my running path today. When I passed it on my way out it was lying down, and I honestly thought it was dead until I saw it move its tail. On my way back it was up and moving but staying on the path. I had no idea what to do ... I had to get past it to get home, but I was afraid it would attack me. I freaked out, and then decided to just sprint past it. It didn't attack, but it didn't run away either. It just stayed there.
Thankfully, I mostly use this path for my long runs, so I don't have to worry about it again until Sunday. But it really freaked me out. I don't do things with 4 legs.

It isn't very normal for them to be out during the middle of the day. They are usually nocturnal animals, but will still be out as the sun is coming up. They typically avoid people, but a few reasons why they may not could be people feeding them, they are just accustomed to seeing people on that path, or something is wrong with it (rabid/or other illness). I had one in my back yard in the middle of the day a few months ago, and he was walking around like he was drunk. Running into the fence and then just laying on its back. I called animal control and they came retrieve the little guy and said some other illness was going around (not rabid). If the one you saw is sick, you probably wont see him again. If you do see him again, I am going to go with he is waiting for a easy meal from people handing him food. Not a great thing, but doubt he will give you any trouble.

 

[FFigawi]

I've never had an ice bath. I would have LOVED one after our first long run over in Spain as it was HOT HOT HOT outside. When you take an ice bath how long do you try to stay in?

As long as it takes me to finish one beer, so about 10-15 minutes. Be sure to wear a fleece top or a sweatshirt. It makes the ice bath much more bearable.

 

[Kathymford]

For what it's worth, I started getting the stitch as I began extending my distances. I thought it was my breathing too, and it partially was, but I found out that for me it was hydration. I don't drink enough water to begin with, and for the increased activity, I was definitely dehydrated. I solved it when the week of my first half marathon, I only drank water (other than morning coffee, because no one wants to see that!) and no stitches that week at all. Even during my race.

Speaking of my first half marathon: the good news is, I finished. The bad news is I was so super slow, I am very disappointed. Yes, the DLH was super crowded. The park portions were ridiculous. And whoever decided to put the water stops in the narrowest portion of the course should be fired. Even if you didn't want to stop for water, you had to stop and walk anyway. For the first time, I couldn't wait to get out of the parks to actually have some room to run. I've done several DL 10Ks and have never felt this way.

But overall I am pretty proud of myself. It was hard, but I never felt like I couldn't do it. And the WDW half marathon training plans start today! WOOO!

 

[pamster]

@Kathymford - I was cheering at Angel Stadium on Sunday morning and wondered how you were doing on your first half ... I am so proud of you!!

 

[Pixie Heart]

@roxymama , It is a "bar to bar" experience - people use the monorail to visit bars in all Monorail Resorts.
I read about this on the Disney Dining website, and inserted the link below, in case your interest in reading it too:

http://www.****************/walt-disney-world-monorail-crawl/

 

[Kathymford]

@Kathymford - I was cheering at Angel Stadium on Sunday morning and wondered how you were doing on your first half ... I am so proud of you!!

Thank you so much! And the Angels stadium part was so awesome. I'm a huge Angels fan so that helps, but that was so much fun.