Magic kingdom down to two designated smoking areas

[Dan Murphy]

They did that already.

Even with all the DSA at the parks and resorts people still violated the non-smoking areas. They still smoked on balconies, in bathrooms, etc. IMHO...if you cannot wait till you get to a smoking area you might want to consider a nicotine patch. WDW put up a sign at the GF warning of Gators....smoking kills more people than gators do.

At the resorts, that could get expensive.

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/smoke-free-policy/smoking-policy-enforcement/

 

[GPC0321]

As a CM I love this! Phasing them out one area at a time. And for those who are gonna bring it up, yes E cigs and Vapes have to be used in smoking sections per the park rules.

I wondered about this, because we saw people vaping a lot, and they weren't in the smoking areas. Just walking through MK, near the castle, vaping away. My mother didn't even know what it was they were doing until I explained it do her, LOL. At the time I figured vaping was allowed wherever in the parks, but I guess not. Huh.

 

[kittyab]

At the resorts, that could get expensive.

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/smoke-free-policy/smoking-policy-enforcement/

I haven't seen Disney really enforce the rules much as they do not want to upset guests.

 

[jhaig]

I vote turning Tom Sawyer Island into a tobacco haven. Think of the imagineering possibilities there, like a meet and greet with the carlterpillar from Alice in Wonderland.

 

[warrenz1963]

The college I attended (this is recent information, I graduated in 2015 at the age of 51!) went from designated areas to a total ban on tobacco products on campus, during the years I attended. I only noticed "cheaters" when we still had designated areas. Once the ban went into affect, I never saw another smoker on campus.

 

[warrenz1963]

So far the research I'm finding is focused on workplace and college campus issues. The research I've read, in this short amount of time, for the most part shows that outright smoking bans are more effective in reducing overall tobacco consumption than designated smoking areas are. Simply put, if you provide designated areas, people will smoke more than if there is an overall ban. All of the research I've seen so far is only taking about individual attitudes and consumption; none of the research I've seen so far focuses on the social dynamics we are discussing in this thread.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Per my allergist, cigarette smoke is NOT something that people are allergic to -- it's a general irritant. If you already have other allergies or asthma, you're more likely to be bothered by it.

And with all due respect to those with perfume or other allergies, they don't cause cancer in bystanders who breath them in.

All I know from a practical perspective -- as someone with myriad allergies and exercise-induced asthma (fun!) -- is that cigarette smoke promptly gives me a headache!

While I'd love a smoke free park, I suspect people would just sneak it if banned, and history suggests Disney won't do much in the way of enforcement. I understand the few studies done, but easier to leave a college campus to smoke than WDW.

I wonder whether reduction of smoking spots matters. For those who follow rules and are considerate, I think they'll still seek out the designated spot -- even if further away. The rest are smoking wherever they feel like it already.

At least this would mean fewer smoking spots that I need to walk by.

 

[warrenz1963]

Completely with you on this.

The only negative about our stay at Pop Century was having to walk past icky smoke every morning on our way to the food court and/or the buses. Right on the main walkway- close to the lobby, food court, and buses.

It may be, as others here have suggested, that if they don't put the smoking areas in convenient places, people will just smoke wherever. There certainly are a lot of people who put their own desires before the well-being of others.

I share your experience of POP. The placement of the smoking area by the central building meant that many many guests had to walk right past it. Hated it. And it was tiny, so smokers spilled out into the walkway, kind of defeating the purpose. Also, each time I've stayed there, people smoked by the railings outside their rooms. Once it was rhe folks in the room right next to mine. They would pull their chairs out by the railing like it was a balcony, and smoke away. Of course we could smell it in our room. We asked them not to because of allergies and asthma, and they said they would stop. But they didn't. So we narced on them to the front desk. I don't know if they were moved or banned or checked out but they were gone the next day.

 

[mom2rtk]

I share your experience of POP. The placement of the smoking area by the central building meant that many many guests had to walk right past it. Hated it. And it was tiny, so smokers spilled out into the walkway, kind of defeating the purpose. Also, each time I've stayed there, people smoked by the railings outside their rooms. Once it was rhe folks in the room right next to mine. They would pull their chairs out by the railing like it was a balcony, and smoke away. Of course we could smell it in our room. We asked them not to because of allergies and asthma, and they said they would stop. But they didn't. So we narced on them to the front desk. I don't know if they were moved or banned or checked out but they were gone the next day.

I hope they got a big fat fine. No excuse for that.

 

[maxiesmom]

I wonder how many people complaining about the smoke when they walk by a DSA also complain about the smoke from the fireworks. Because I can tell you, that sets of my asthma just as easily as cigarette smoke.

 

[mom2rtk]

Completely with you on this.

The only negative about our stay at Pop Century was having to walk past icky smoke every morning on our way to the food court and/or the buses. Right on the main walkway- close to the lobby, food court, and buses.

It may be, as others here have suggested, that if they don't put the smoking areas in convenient places, people will just smoke wherever. There certainly are a lot of people who put their own desires before the well-being of others.

I agree. We love the Pop. But that one piece was definitely a negative.

 

[mom2rtk]

I wonder how many people complaining about the smoke when they walk by a DSA also complain about the smoke from the fireworks. Because I can tell you, that sets of my asthma just as easily as cigarette smoke.

Smoking areas are typically adjacent to walkways. I'm pretty sure the smoke from fireworks doesn't typically get that close.

 

[maxiesmom]

Smoking areas are typically adjacent to walkways. I'm pretty sure the smoke from fireworks doesn't typically get that close.

It sure does! Have you never been on the wrong side of Illuminations? Or standing there when the wind changes? Or watched Wishes from behind the castle?

 

[bbjunkie]

I wonder how many people complaining about the smoke when they walk by a DSA also complain about the smoke from the fireworks. Because I can tell you, that sets of my asthma just as easily as cigarette smoke.

Fireworks smoke doesn't have nicotine.

 

[maxiesmom]

Fireworks smoke doesn't have nicotine.

No, but it can be a health hazard just the same.

 

[P'colaBeachBum]

I wonder how many people complaining about the smoke when they walk by a DSA also complain about the smoke from the fireworks. Because I can tell you, that sets of my asthma just as easily as cigarette smoke.

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Disney Fireworks Go Green
Using data collected from their on-site monitoring and sampling efforts and Disney’s own health risk assessment (conducted to comply with a state law requiring large emitters of air contaminants to report designated toxic material to local districts), the AQMD was able to assess the risk posed by Disney’s shows. They determined that, although fireworks emissions “may pose a potential nuisance effect under certain meteorological conditions on a limited segment of the neighboring community,” sample results indicate that there is “currently no significant health risk due to emissions generated from fireworks displays.”

So no violation means case closed, it would seem. But not for Disney.

In a proactive effort to make their fireworks displays safer, quieter and more environmentally friendly, Disney engineers developed a new air launching system that is cleaner than the traditional method. It is also researching and testing low-smoke fireworks for use in their theme parks.

The new launching system was implemented in June and uses compressed air as a substitute for the gunpowder traditionally used to propel more than 350 shells typically used in a Disneyland show into the air. It also reduces the amount of material needed since the powder lift charge generally takes up one-fourth of the shell. This means that Disneyland is projected to use almost 30,000 fewer pounds of explosive material in its fireworks displays in 2004 than it did in 2003 to achieve the same effect. And less material means less environmental impact—a fact that is sure to ease the concerns of Disney’s neighbors.

While Disney is the country’s largest user of fireworks (almost 90,000 pounds worth last year), it is not the only theme park that would benefit from the technology. Disney plans on donating the patents generated from the technology to a non-profit organization that could, in turn, license its use to other parks and attractions.
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[cedricandsophie]

The college I attended (this is recent information, I graduated in 2015 at the age of 51!) went from designated areas to a total ban on tobacco products on campus, during the years I attended. I only noticed "cheaters" when we still had designated areas. Once the ban went into affect, I never saw another smoker on campus.

My grand daughter attends university of Illinois. Totally non smoking anywhere on campus including football and basketball stadiums. If you are caught smoking you get a ticket. Three tickets as a student and you are out. Her mother is two packs a day. I'm thrilled my grand daughter is away from it. Every time she is home her clothes reek of smoke. She was embarrassed when she first went to college for her roommate to smell it. The first thing we bought was FebreZe. Frankly I think it's child abuse for adults to smoke around kids in a house or car. Years ago when airports had designated smoking areas in airports that were enclosed I saw parents taking kids in there when the smoke was so thick it was like a fog. I just don't get it.

I have seen people smoking at the WDW resort pools. I always report them to lifeguards and someone comes over immediately to tell them to stop. The look of...oh really I can't smoke here...is so fake.

Sorry to sound so militant but while I respect your right to poison your own body I will not allow a smoker to poison mine or my family.

 

[magicjojo]

Disney should ban smoking on property. It's disgusting, sets a terrible example for all the children around, and puts cancer causing smoke into the air for everyone else to breathe. I know smokers hate hearing all this, but it's all true.

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

I despise smoking. But eliminating DSAs won't eliminate smokers. LOL. I see smokers and vapers puffing away wherever they want on my trips. My experiences are similar to those of the poster upthread who said that CMs who try to enforce not smoking outside the areas are met with laughter and sometimes even derision. It all goes back to the level of enforcement...on this topic, and every other one about bad guest behavior.

 

[fbb]

I vote turning Tom Sawyer Island into a tobacco haven. Think of the imagineering possibilities there, like a meet and greet with the carlterpillar from Alice in Wonderland.

Smoking should be encouraged on Stitch, but extinguishing the butts should be prohibited.