MacKenzie Phillips expected to drop bombshell on Oprah tomorrow

[JerseyJanice]

I think this woman is pathetic. And most of this is not news to the world either. The only detail I haven't heard her announce previously is the physical relationship with her father.

I very distinctly remember her bragging years ago about her encounter with Mick Jagger on the Howard Stern radio show. She seemed very happy and proud of the incident back then. I may watch the Oprah Show (which I detest) just to see how she presents it now.

Doing drugs with her father from a young age? Hasn't she been talking about that for decades? As I recall, she went into rehab after being fired from "One Day at a Time" for being a coke addict and that was her excuse.

Everyone has skeletons in their closet. I'd have a lot more respect for her if she kept a few inside hers--where they belong.

 

[declansdad]

Wow! Is it really that easy? I can't imagine it would be to get over something so horrendous. Is that what we say to rape victims now, just get over it?

She wasn't raped, she was 19 and it was consensual.

She and Oprah are both doing this for the publicity and the money.

 

[robinb]

She wasn't raped, she was 19 and it was consensual.

Ahem. Waking up from a drug-induced stupor to find someone having sex with you is not consensual in any way, shape or form. Her continued affair with him may have been consensual but the original instance (as described in the links) was 100% rape.

 

[hentob]

She wasn't raped, she was 19 and it was consensual.

And just how do you know that she was not raped? Can't 19 year olds be raped? If you are a drug addict, are you asking to be raped?

Did she deserve this?

I am saddened by this thread. I could not imagine what it would feel like to be a sexually abused person.

 

[lillygator]

Ahem. Waking up from a drug-induced stupor to find someone having sex with you is not consensual in any way, shape or form. Her continued affair with him may have been consensual but the original instance (as described in the links) was 100% rape.

I hadn't head about all this before reading this thread and googling her. Did her father every say anything regarding these allegations of rape and a continued consensual relationship?

 

[robinb]

I hadn't head about all this before reading this thread and googling her. Did her father every say anything regarding these allegations of rape and a continued consensual relationship?

Her father died many years ago and these public allegations are just coming to light this week.

 

[belle&sebastiansmom]

yes, Valerie's. I think she did Dynasty or Knots Landing, maybe Dallas? It was one of those.

didn't her mom play on 90210?? as someones mom???

On a lighter note: Wasn't Mackenzie also on an episode of 90210? She was a drug counselor during an intervention for Dylan that took place in the Walsh's living room?

 

[declansdad]

Ahem. Waking up from a drug-induced stupor to find someone having sex with you is not consensual in any way, shape or form. Her continued affair with him may have been consensual but the original instance (as described in the links) was 100% rape.

And just how do you know that she was not raped? Can't 19 year olds be raped? If you are a drug addict, are you asking to be raped?

Did she deserve this?

I am saddened by this thread. I could not imagine what it would feel like to be a sexually abused person.

Sorry my mistake. The story I read only mentioned that she had consensual sex. It still doesn't change my opinion that both Phillips and Oprah are only doing this for money and publicity.

 

[sandramaac]

Let me put this out there. This was along term relationship with her father. Does she truly know who the father of her son is? And John Philips was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame---what a great role model.

 

[NY Disney fan]

When Oprah did that show glorifying the Bunny Ranch, I think she forgot that her fan base is women with families. I started to see Oprah in a different light since then.

 

[lisaviolet]

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I still see nothing wrong with saying to yourself, "Hey! Crap happened, really really awful horrible crap....but WOW there are still wonderful life experiences to be had and I'm gonna have them and I'm NOT gonna live in the past. I'm gonna move beyond the horrors of my life and create good."

So this is what I did.

I said crap happened - really awful horrible crap but WOW there are still wonderful life experiences to be had and I'm gonna have them and I"m NOT going to live in the past. I'm gonna move beyond the horrors of my life and create good. Well actually I lie I didn't say create good - because I knew I was a good person and sharing that weath.

And then somehow dreams came, ucontrollable shaking came, flashbacks at very very inconvient times came, fears of the opposite sex came, and deep depression came. Funny how that can happen. And boy I was simply moving on and living my life. How does that happen?

Yes, the sarcasm from me is overwhelming.

I will have a wonderful future and do have a wonderful life. But you know I'd rather have both of these without these annoying little out of my control How could I say that? ramifications.

And one day I will because some of them have already started to disappate. Because I am looking at my past ( well looking at it kind of makes me it can knock you over the head ) and how it has affected my now. So that it leaves my future alone.

Carry on. I needed to post this to relieve my agitation. But more importantly - I'm on my way - and I didn't want those who are really confused/suffering from their past - and just beginning to look at ongoing effects - thinking that there is only one way to go. Or feel any guilt for looking at it.

 

[xoprincessmomxo]

She wasn't raped, she was 19 and it was consensual.

She and Oprah are both doing this for the publicity and the money.

I'm sorry, but when a father has sex with his daughter, be it "consensual" or not, it is rape in my book. He is in a position of power over her, had the role of bringing her up to know that it was wrong.

 

[Planogirl]

Why air this publically? I can see needing to heal but is this the right way?

I'm glad that I avoid most of the scandal and other garbage out there. I do like Valerie Bertinelli though and it was interesting to read that she would be there to support Mackenzie.

 

[PrincessKsMom]

why air this publically? I can see needing to heal but is this the right way?

chaaaaa-chingggggg

 

[beattyfamily]

Wow, this is such a sad sad story. A story of horrible parents destroying a child's life, IMHO.

I'm amazed she's still alive. Whatever she needs to do to recover, I say good for her. I'm not going to judge. I've seen the damage of abusive parents first hand.

I'm watching her on Oprah now.

 

[NeverlandClub23]

Isn't this on now? I never watch Oprah (not a fan) but I think it comes on at 4 p.m. here. Anyone watching?

 

[bicker]

A celebrity never, ever, ever appears on television if they do not have something for sale. You never hear from your favorite actor, actress or musician unless they have something current to sell. Not a word, think about it. Everything from an appearance on the Tonight Show to a stint as a guest mentor on American Idol has that sole purpose.

Absolutely. Given how non-celebrities generally regard celebrities, it would be utterly and completely idiotic for a celebrity to give forth anything unless there was a substantial positive reward for doing so. Just look at the cattiness going on regarding this revelation, in the press, online and at the water cooler. Why would any person subject themselves to such inane curmudgeony unless there was something very significant in it for them?

 

[eliza61]

Absolutely. Given how non-celebrities generally regard celebrities, it would be utterly and completely idiotic for a celebrity to give forth anything unless there was a substantial positive reward for doing so. Just look at the cattiness going on regarding this revelation, in the press, online and at the water cooler. Why would any person subject themselves to such inane curmudgeony unless there was something very significant in it for them?

Not only that but am I the only one getting cynical about these "celebrity revelations". I mean when I first heard the advertisement for this episode I guess it would be either:
inappropriate sexual act/rape with a parent
inappropriate sexual act/rape with a sibling
inappropriate sexual act/rape from a co star.
They are becoming so formularic (is that a word?). I'm starting to feel like another star, another sob story. I could write the script.

I'll probably faint the first star who goes on Oprah and says "nope, no drama. I had a perfectly ordinary childhood,young adulhood"

 

[bicker]

There are folks like that, but you never see them talk about it, because there's no up-side in revealing how boring they are.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I understand where you're coming from, but I just don't see that her celebrity lessens her situation any. I do agree that there are many others who have suffered tremendously at the hands of their parents or others, and I feel for them as well. I just don't see that she really had much of a chance from the get go, and that's so sad to me. Not having walked in her shoes, I have to leave it to her to decide how she needs to work through her demons.

I find it amazing she's still alive to tell the story. She had almost no chance. It's not surprising she's an addict. She's still battling every day of her life and I admire her for not giving up. Too many, who've had a life such as hers, end up attempting/committing suicide .