MacKenzie Phillips expected to drop bombshell on Oprah tomorrow

[TLSnell1981]

I'm also bothered by the length of this "affair". Having never been a big-time drug user but marginally aware of the effects....ok, she woke up the first time in the middle of a drug haze, but what about the next day when she came down?? It didn't occur to her then this was unacceptable? For the next 10 years?

Can't help but come back to the fact she was busted a year ago. If, she is doing this in the guise of "helping others", it's wayyy too soon for a 49 y.o. habitual user.

I think, it's very difficult for the "average or normal" person to understand. I'm not justifying her actions, but it's more than just a "habitual or recreational user".

She spent her whole life in a sick, twisted, dysfunctional lifestyle. You don't just "come down" or "sober up" and think or behave "normally". As a PP posted, our brains don't develop until we are around 24 years old. Addicts do not progress emotionally and do not mature or think rationally. There is a direct link to promiscuity, sexual abuse and addiction.

Some folks feel MP was wrong to come out. I see a lot of dialouge going on that wouldn't have taken place (if she hadn't spoke out). Maybe, this will bring more awareness and understanding...to addiction, sexual abuse and mental illness.

 

[DawnCt1]

I think, it's very difficult for the "average or normal" person to understand. I'm not justifying her actions, but it's more than just a "habitual or recreational user".

She spent her whole life in a sick, twisted, dysfunctional lifestyle. You don't just "come down" or "sober up" and think or behave "normally". As a PP posted, our brains don't develop until we are around 24 years old. Addicts do not progress emotionally and do not mature or think rationally. There is a direct link to promiscuity, sexual abuse and addiction.

Some folks feel MP was wrong to come out. I see a lot of dialouge going on that wouldn't have taken place (if she hadn't spoke out). Maybe, this will bring more awareness and understanding...to addiction, sexual abuse and mental illness.

She was literally born into it. With regard to maturity at 24. I agree. I also think that once drugs enter the picture that "growth" is halted and doesn't resume until the user is clean and sober. With that in mind, she would be lucky to have the emotional maturity of a 14 year old. Its sad.

 

[NikitaZee]

I respect her right to tell her story and move forward with her life. However, when I heard about it, I wished I hadn't.

 

[horseshowmom]

Good for you for not being ashamed. Not everyone gets to the point of realizing it wasn't there fault and that they are a victim. Thank you for speaking out and providing the facts regarding sexual abuse. It's definitely an eye opener.

I think it does affect how you look at things. I can remember once many years ago being at Disney World with my sister-in-law (who I loved dearly and was aware of my circumstances), and it crossed my mind to comment to her that I look out at all the children and wonder how many of them have been victimized. She said that never would have even crossed her mind (having not been put in the situations that I had been) but that I was undoubtedly right. She commented on what a sobering thought that was.

As for MP, I think I would be somewhat more understanding of her need to purge herself if she wasn't going to make a penny from it, although she's been dealt such a horrible hand in life, maybe compensation is the least of what she deserves.

I understand what you're saying here too. It would be nice if she were doing something charitable with the funds, but I have to confess that I had also thought what you said - "maybe compensation is the least of what she deserves". It's such a hard, hard topic to deal with and grasp.

 

[declansdad]

Gosh, no. Not even close. Oprah has a great measure of humanity and a capability for compassion.

Only when there is something in it for her.

 

[bicker]

Even when that is not the case.

 

[declansdad]

Even when that is not the case.

There is always something in it for her.

She talks about on her show and it makes her look good and increases her profile. In turn, she increases her ratings.

 

[bicker]

So because there is benefit, you claim that she won't do anything unless there is benefit? That's a logical fallacy.

 

[declansdad]

So because there is benefit, you claim that she won't do anything unless there is benefit? That's a logical fallacy.

Then tell me why she needs to tell the world about all the good things she does?

 

[bicker]

So now you've gone from asserting something about everything she does to talking about one thing she does.

Again, logical fallacy.

 

[JerseyJanice]

IMO, Oprah and Dr. Phil are cut out of the same cloth so I don't think it matters which show Ms. Phillips went on to promote her book. It's a book that should not have been published.

We are living in an information age where ordinary people are sharing their lives with the world via their on-line blogs. IMO, it's about time for folks to be saying "Enough TMI already!" because that's what this revelation is--too much information!

When celebrities reveal their darkest secrets, many people say that it helps take the taboo off a given subject. Well, IMO, incest between adults is a subject that needs to remain taboo. There's good reason why such behavior is shunned throughout the animal kingdom.

As much as I believe that victims of childhood abuse and neglect deserve compassion for what they suffered, at some point, they have to take responsiblity for their adult actions and stop placing the blame on the past.

It's a known fact that the majority of pedophiles were victims of sexual abuse when they were children. It doesn't excuse them from victimizing other children when they become adults. By the same token, whatever Ms. Phillips was exposed to during childhood does not excuse her from taking part in an incestuous affair for ten of her adult years.

 

[declansdad]

So now you've gone from asserting something about everything she does to talking about one thing she does.

Again, logical fallacy.

answer the question.

 

[TLSnell1981]

It's a book that should not have been published.

We are living in an information age where ordinary people are sharing their lives with the world via their on-line blogs. IMO, it's about time for folks to be saying "Enough TMI already!" because that's what this revelation is--too much information!

As much as I believe that victims of childhood abuse and neglect deserve compassion for what they suffered, at some point, they have to take responsiblity for their adult actions and stop placing the blame on the past.

It's a known fact that the majority of pedophiles were victims of sexual abuse when they were children. It doesn't excuse them from victimizing other children when they become adults. By the same token, whatever Ms. Phillips was exposed to during childhood does not excuse her from taking part in an incestuous affair for ten of her adult years.

It is an ugly subject and I don't think MP was looking for an excuse. I believe, she was looking for forgiveness and understanding.

Just because a person's body maybe XXXX number of years old doesn't mean their mind is mature.(especially, one that is numbed by drugs). Our society seems to have a magic number for many things...18 you are an adult, but you can't drink until you are 21. Retirement age is 65, although, many need and want to work way past that. Everything neat and pat.

I think, there is a misconception regarding her "affair". My understanding is it wasn't an ongoing thing and at least the first couple of times...it was rape. I don't see how it was ever truly consentual, given her state of mind at the time. Lord, your not even supposed to sign a contract if you are taking cought syrup. There have been rape cases, where the woman was inebriated and therefore deemed unable to give her consent. Thank God, it finally stopped and she is still trying to cope and live a "normal" life. MO, you NEVER recover from that, but you learn to live with it.

Kudos to MP for not giving up! Many would have long ago.

 

[JerseyJanice]

I think, there is a misconception regarding her "affair". My understanding is it wasn't an ongoing thing

I didn't read the book--and I won't. On Oprah, she described it as an ongoing thing that began with the rape at age 19 and continued until she was 29 (ten years). It ended when she got pregnant and didn't know whether the father of the baby was her husband or her dad.

During that time, she was in and out of rehab, so she certainly had access to mental health professionals. Only she knows why she didn't ask for help in stopping herself from feeling so desperate for her father's love that she'd participate in a physical affair with him.

 

[TLSnell1981]

During that time, she was in and out of rehab, so she certainly had access to mental health professionals. Only she knows why she didn't ask for help in stopping herself from feeling so desperate for her father's love that she'd participate in a physical affair with him

Can you imagine the shame and embarassment? I can't imagine the time and treatment she needed to get this far. It doesn't happen overnight. This has to be the worst of the worst. IMO (other than murder)

She confided in her sister,Chynna, 12 years ago.....before her father's death. I don't know when she first confided in a professional. I would imagine the legal ramifications played a part in her timing. And, also the denials by other family members. I couldn't imagine telling something like that and being called a liar. She had to really toughen up for that.

 

[NY Disney fan]

It's a book that should not have been published.

I don't have a problem with the info in this book being published. I have a major issue with Oprah and the rest of media (People, US magazine) making it a huge focal point and throwing it in our faces. That being said, my heart goes out to Mackenzie.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I don't have a problem with the info in this book being published. I have a major issue with Oprah and the rest of media (People, US magazine) making it a huge focal point and throwing it in our faces. That being said, my heart goes out to Mackenzie.

Personally, I have a bigger problem with the media hunting down and revealing ever aspect of a person's life. If the person is coming forward, on their own? I don't have an issue. They are making the choice to make it public

 

[JoiseyMom]

It's a book that should not have been published.

I guess it's a good thing you aren't in the publishing industry. Just because you don't like the subject matter doesn't mean it shouldn't be published. You have the freedom, we do live in the USA of not reading it. Thankfully we no longer have censorship in this country!

We are living in an information age where ordinary people are sharing their lives with the world via their on-line blogs. IMO, it's about time for folks to be saying "Enough TMI already!" because that's what this revelation is--too much information!

When celebrities reveal their darkest secrets, many people say that it helps take the taboo off a given subject. Well, IMO, incest between adults is a subject that needs to remain taboo. There's good reason why such behavior is shunned throughout the animal kingdom.

What planet are you from??????????? This should be talked about more and be out there in people's faces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The more it is hidden and shunned the more these victims won't realized they are victims and won't get the help they need to protect them and send their perpatrator away for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As much as I believe that victims of childhood abuse and neglect deserve compassion for what they suffered, at some point, they have to take responsiblity for their adult actions and stop placing the blame on the past.


WTH?????????????????? A child that was molested for year by a parent, is wrong??? HUH???????? The actions of that adult has shaped that child into the person/adult they are. Do you think it is that easy to change and to fix it?? Let's snap a finger and make the nightmare go away??


It's a known fact that the majority of pedophiles were victims of sexual abuse when they were children. It doesn't excuse them from victimizing other children when they become adults. By the same token, whatever Ms. Phillips was exposed to during childhood does not excuse her from taking part in an incestuous affair for ten of her adult years.

I have never read such garbage in my entire life!!!! I am shocked, saddend and disgusted by your response to this situation. Have you ever thought about being in her shoes..the drugs..waking up in a drugged stupor and finding yourself in bed with your father??

My heart goes out to MP, she has had a horrible childhood and I am so glad her father is dead..I hope the animal is cooking in hell as we speak!!

This book and her speaking out about it has already increased the calls to help lines for sexually abused people. I think that is great and wonderful! We need to let kids know that adults they trust, even parents have no right to sexually touch them!!

SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If her being all over tv discussing has saved 1 child...then I for one am grateful!

 

[beattyfamily]

She's on Oprah again discussing the fall out.

Her sister China is on also and supporting her sister and they also had a statement from her other sister who said she was told about it 12 years ago. So both sisters were told around 12 years ago.

 

[JerseyJanice]

I have never read such garbage in my entire life!!!! I am shocked, saddend and disgusted by your response to this situation. Have you ever thought about being in her shoes..the drugs..waking up in a drugged stupor and finding yourself in bed with your father??

My heart goes out to MP, she has had a horrible childhood and I am so glad her father is dead..I hope the animal is cooking in hell as we speak!!

This book and her speaking out about it has already increased the calls to help lines for sexually abused people. I think that is great and wonderful! We need to let kids know that adults they trust, even parents have no right to sexually touch them!!

SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If her being all over tv discussing has saved 1 child...then I for one am grateful!

Well, sorry you had to read such garbage! FYI, I have as much right to express my opinions as MP and her publishing company.

Shout what from the rooftops? That there are adult women who choose to participate in physical relationships with their fathers? Sorry, but IMO that is sick and degenerate behavior, no matter what the reason. I don't doubt there are people who do this kind of thing, but I sincerely hope it isn't so commonplace that we need a celebrity spokesperson to put a face on the problem.

Mark my words on this. I don't wish MP any harm, but at this point in time, it's obvious that she is her own worst enemy. No good will come to her for airing her filthy laundry for the world to see. I think she did it for money and because she misses receiving public attention. After the money is gone and she's once again a seldom-thought-of celebrity, her regrets will be enormous.