Looking for a bright spot in all of this

[jkh36619]

Id like to see AP prices back to 2015 levels at least. Out of state AP has nearly doubled in 6 years.
More free dining. Free dining was reduced to the point it was unavailable on the times I could go
On site hotels with reasonable rates. A moderate in the $150 range would be good again
camp sites in the $60 range.

Probably a pipe dream but it would be nice!

 

[Future_WorldPhonencian]

Im not sure if any of that is possible, but you never know. Disney's value as a company is going to continue to get hammered until they can reopen the parks again, broadcast sporting events, sell hotel rooms, and can release blockbusters again. Unfortunately they will have to cut every non-essential bit of streetmosphere and entertainment and halt all of their construction projects until this thing is over. They cant put the workers lives at risk.

 

[umichigan10]

I don’t doubt the entire travel industry is going to feel the effects of this for a while. Won’t be surprised if most places are offering crazy discounts, as many expect this to be the beginning of a lengthy recession

 

[MegaraWink]

Demand for travel will be UP after months of seclusion. Prices will stay high.

 

[Ben E N]

Demand for travel will be UP after months of seclusion. Prices will stay high.

But the money won't be there from so many people. I agree that those who have been paid during all of this will want to be out, but the entire service industry, as well as many others, will be very behind on payments once they are allowed to return to work.

 

[Mattimation]

But the money won't be there from so many people. I agree that those who have been paid during all of this will want to be out, but the entire service industry, as well as many others, will be very behind on payments once they are allowed to return to work.

Yeah, we're certainly getting out of this with at least a recession, if not a depression. It's nice that we're hearing so many stories of people being allowed to work from home, but that's simply impossible for a huge portion (probably the majority) of the work force. If Disney wants to see an influx of visitors, I'd imagine they'll have to slash prices to make it accessible for people. People will certainly be hungry for activities and experiences, but it won't be attainable for most people for a long time.

 

[Ben E N]

Yeah, we're certainly getting out of this with at least a recession, if not a depression. It's nice that we're hearing so many stories of people being allowed to work from home, but that's simply impossible for a huge portion (probably the majority) of the work force. If Disney wants to see an influx of visitors, I'd imagine they'll have to slash prices to make it accessible for people. People will certainly be hungry for activities and experiences, but it won't be attainable for most people for a long time.

Then there's also a large segment of the population that I hadn't even thought of - those who are 60 and older, as well as anyone with an underlying health condition. This virus will still be around even once it is "contained". While many people in these groups will be happy to risk their wellbeing to experience trips with families, there will be others who will be terrified to be in crowds when they hadn't been in the past. I bet we see lots less travel from the older age groups for at least a full year - maybe longer, depending on how long a vaccine takes to develop.

 

[TisBit]

Yeah, we're certainly getting out of this with at least a recession, if not a depression. It's nice that we're hearing so many stories of people being allowed to work from home, but that's simply impossible for a huge portion (probably the majority) of the work force. If Disney wants to see an influx of visitors, I'd imagine they'll have to slash prices to make it accessible for people. People will certainly be hungry for activities and experiences, but it won't be attainable for most people for a long time.

Yeah, impact will be huge. Even for Disney, sure being closed it a huge impact and loss of revenue. But continuing to pay their workers then doubles that impact, no revenue and no lower operations costs to top it off. This will also be true for many area's of the country and impacts on business owners, large and small. Some of the regulations and/or restrictions will likely see a huge number of bankrupt companies (especially small ones) in the next couple of years that just simply won't be able to recover. The longer this lasts, the more and more impact it will have. As often said, look at 9/11 as the closest thing, and it was a very short window of time. Closing a business for a couple of weeks might not be awful, but not many can recover a month or more.

Then, you look at hourly workers or service workers. Sure, they can send a stimulus check, but again that 1-2k might help if you are out of work for a couple of weeks, but not over a month.

 

[jkh36619]

Then there's also a large segment of the population that I hadn't even thought of - those who are 60 and older, as well as anyone with an underlying health condition. This virus will still be around even once it is "contained". While many people in these groups will be happy to risk their wellbeing to experience trips with families, there will be others who will be terrified to be in crowds when they hadn't been in the past. I bet we see lots less travel from the older age groups for at least a full year - maybe longer, depending on how long a vaccine takes to develop.

Good point. I wonder how many people will opt for less crowded open air vacations.

 

[DeniseJH]

Good point. I wonder how many people will opt for less crowded open air vacations.

I think those 60 and older, along with those with underlying conditions, are going to have to live under this lockdown until there is a vaccine. Eventually people will have to prove their immunity for admittance to places, I believe. I don't believe viruses ever just disappear, do they?

 

[kymom99]

Demand for travel will be UP after months of seclusion. Prices will stay high.

People won't have money to travel.

 

[Mattimation]

I think those 60 and older, along with those with underlying conditions, are going to have to live under this lockdown until there is a vaccine. Eventually people will have to prove their immunity for admittance to places, I believe. I don't believe viruses ever just disappear, do they?

Some people are speculating COVID-19 has already become endemic, meaning we'll have to deal with its evolution yearly just like we do with the flu. At least with the flu we already know how to make the vaccine, even if it isn't always as effective as we need it to be like the last few years. Hopefully we have some kind of solution that allows for a majority of people to return to some semblance of normal life, but it will be very difficult to navigate until there's a vaccine late next year.

In the meantime, because this thread is supposed to be about bright spots, I think we'll see Disney+ really flourish. They have a huge catalog that's still not on their platform, and now that families will be spending somewhere between the next two-to-eight weeks together, it would only make sense to put as much as possible on there. I doubt things like Mulan or Black Widow would go up, since it's still possible for them to get a solid release sometime in the next couple of years, but some older shows and movies that aren't available now probably will be soon. I've been unimpressed by Disney+ so far because a fair amount of the cartoons and movies I grew up with still aren't available, but I'd imagine that's all about to change.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Looking for a bright spot in all of this

Global air pollution has plummeted and we've probably set global warming back a few years.

 

[rojen]

I'm hoping they bring back 3am closing during emh.

Crowded spaces aren't going to be attractive to normal people (we're all mad here) for a long time. Discounts are going to be huge for years to come.

 

[kymom99]

Global air pollution has plummeted and we've probably set global warming back a few years.

I thought about that

 

[Traveling on cc points]

I think it is wishful thinking that Disney will drop ticket prices or rack rates. I do think they will add incentives like free dining, 30% off “sales” on rooms or buy 5 day hopper and get a 7 day hopper.

The bigger problem is that the Disney isn’t going to be the Disney we all love for a while. We have already seen huge cuts to live entertainment. I imagine that there will be many more cuts to come.

 

[Future_WorldPhonencian]

I thought about that

Internet usage uses quite a bit of energy. Unfortunately most of the electricity used to power the web comes from burning fossil fuels. Data Centers and Server Farms use massive amounts of energy to run and cool. However, transportation pollution and industry grinding to a halt is definitely cutting global emissions.

 

[jkh36619]

I think it is wishful thinking that Disney will drop ticket prices or rack rates. I do think they will add incentives like free dining, 30% off “sales” on rooms or buy 5 day hopper and get a 7 day hopper.

The bigger problem is that the Disney isn’t going to be the Disney we all love for a while. We have already seen huge cuts to live entertainment. I imagine that there will be many more cuts to come.

Yeah. Unfortunately the entertainment wasn't coming back anyway.

 

[Future_WorldPhonencian]

Yeah. Unfortunately the entertainment wasn't coming back anyway.

I would settle for them just reopening the parks. I completely understand cutting live performances when you have to close your theme parks for a month plus. They will hire new acts once things pick up and get off the ground. I know we all have our favorites, but many of the acts they discontinued were long in the tooth. New offerings will draw more people into the parks. I appreciated the culture and costumes of the Taiko Drummers in Japan, but they have played the same show since Epcot opened... The whistle mime in Italy might have been neat in the 80's... same with the act in France and yes I know we all love classic British Rock Music, but many things need refreshing. My mother mentioned she recognized much of the Epcot entertainment from 30 years ago and now it no longer stands out as very impressive. Some mainstays will stay or return. Cultural music never goes out of style (think the oompa band in Germany or the Mariachis in Mexico, and yes probably the Taiko Drummers) Some needs to be replaced.

 

[Traveling on cc points]

Yeah. Unfortunately the entertainment wasn't coming back anyway.

It’s going to be a catch 22 for Disney. It is completely understandable that Disney’s first instinct is going to cut costs wherever they can but If they cut corners too much and people feel the experience isn’t worth the very high cost, people will stop visiting.

I would say most of us don’t pay the absurd prices Disney charges because they have rides. we pay the prices for the experiences like live performances, fireworks, character interactions, and awesome customer service. If all of those things go away people might as well buy a season pass to their local amusement park for $100.