Living on food stamps

How on earth did a thread where someone is discussing a home school lesson based on living on limited means turn into a who is or isn't abusing or entitled to food stamps. Yikes what is wrong with some of you? Why does everything have to be such a hot topic issue?
 
How on earth did a thread where someone is discussing a home school lesson based on living on limited means turn into a who is or isn't abusing or entitled to food stamps. Yikes what is wrong with some of you? Why does everything have to be such a hot topic issue?

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Just a Sidebar. Not everyone on foodstamps is on it due to low income. That lady with the Coach and the new Iphone who is paying with food stamps? She might well be a foster mom.

Too true.. I have friends that are semi-retired and are long term foster parents to a special needs boy that is considered their son- they are required to take food stamps even though they didn't want them. The mom commented on how often she gets dirty looks from the cashiers, but most of the time they donate what they buy to the food bank.
 
You can do ALL of that without pretending to be impoverished in some strange money saving scheme.
I'm sorry I didn't get that from the OP's post at all. She's showing her kids realistically what it would be like to live with less and the adjustments they would need to make. I don't get why the OP is getting so much flack for this. Shouldn't our children know what it's like to budget or appreciate the value of a dollar or what it takes to be frugal? There is so much to be learned there.
Maybe it's the food stamps that are the hot button issue?
Maybe OP you could just refer to it as a budgeting challenge and predetermine a set amount as well as making it an overall lesson on poverty and what SOME others have to work with.

OP.. don't be discouraged. I still think this is an excellent opportunity to create awareness and empathy. I'm not sure why people are assuming what they are.. but it is the Budget Board. I'd love to say this is unusual but that wouldn't be accurate:rolleyes:
 

How on earth did a thread where someone is discussing a home school lesson based on living on limited means turn into a who is or isn't abusing or entitled to food stamps. Yikes what is wrong with some of you? Why does everything have to be such a hot topic issue?

Government assistance is always a hot topic because there is abuse and waste.

I think the OP has a GREAT idea to teach budgeting. I think the OP should set a budget and then have the kids live within that budget. I do not think that a food stamp budget is a good budget because it is very different than a typical budget. Different parameters. Like that food stamps only pay for food but then you need to realize that in addition to the food stamps there is free lunch and free breakfast for a school age kid so that would add money to the overall budget the kids are working with. I hope that makes sense. So for my family for example: 800 for FS plus 20 x 1.25 and 20 x 2.00 for the free lunch and breakfast since I only have one school age child.

No i do not collect GA but i did research it in depth because my husband works for the city and they are always claiming they cannot afford raises. Also we have a zillion fund raisers because the school needs more money but then taxpayers are paying for food stamps and free lunches which seems to be double dipping benefits to me.
 
I personally wouldn't do this project, because I grew up inside of it and have NO interest in revisiting it. And in our case my mom would have been judged, because she did have a cigarette addiction (that was stopped while she was pregnant but she would go back to it...ended up being a smoker from 15 to 35, which meant 10 years of off and on smoking after having me), and we did have two big dogs that needed to eat. We had a garden, and we had chickens for eggs (until dad put the malamutes in the chicken coop, thanks dad).

Other than those things she would be judged for (if only she had known at 15 that her life of wealth in her dad's house would end when she married 2 years later, moved to SF and was a hippie, she never would have started the addiction to cigarettes), she worked her rear off to keep things healthy for us as much as she could. She cooked real food, she made sure we had nutrition even if it meant she had nothing but black coffee for days on end (something I found out about during the relative few years I had with her as an adult before she died from a medical error/overlooked issue). After I was 4 and my brother was 2 she went to work (child support being a randomly received thing, so it was almost all on her) and usually had two jobs. Despite that, she still qualified for food stamps for a few years. It was HARD for her. It wasn't fun. And it taught us very little except that being poor was rotten.

So I'm not going to do that sort of unit. But if you have never lived it, you can see it as educational, I don't begrudge that.

But I DO have to say that just because YOU are poor doesn't mean your friends are. I had tremendously wealthy friends whose doors were open to us. One of my uncles had a GREAT job, and they lived close, and would take us for long weekends. In that way I got to experience country clubs and beautiful homes, and lots of food in the fridge. My friends ran the gamut of poorer than we were, to very fancy lives, and so I experienced RV trips to Stanford games, among other things. MANY friends had videogame systems EARLY on.

So just because a family is poor, it doesn't mean they don't get to experience those things. Of course, not every family will be in an area like I grew up in, where you had migrant worker families and ex-hippies being friends with children of surgeons, etc. There is no one way of living, even when on food stamps.



Hard to experience poverty if you escape to your normal, everyday life.

I managed to experience it even while surrounded by friends and relatives who provided escapes for us.


Yes, I got free breakfast and lunch at school but that didn't help on weekends or school vacations.

FWIW, nowadays, at least in my town, kids can continue to get free/reduced meals even over breaks. It's actually pretty lovely that they do it. Every summer they have daily lunch for kids at a local park, all you have to do is show up. It does mean you have to get over there, of course.


Heck, I remember once when cashier argued with my mom that we couldn't buy a can of Crisco shortening with our food stamps, telling us that it wasn't "food." After going back and forth, my mom just gave up and had her remove it. Of course, the cashier was wrong about this. But who wants to draw attention with a book of food stamps in your hand?

My mom had a similar experience at our local Safeway. She never went back to that store. Her life was hard enough without cashiers judging her and making up rules.


Speaking to the falicy that people on food stamps are struggling to get by...
We have owned apartment buildings for the past thirty years. Approximately two thirds to three quarters of our tenants benefit from government programs.

Not a week goes by that we don't witness someone trading a trip to the grocery store using their food stamps for cash/material goods.

Whenever we get a new tenant,9 times out of 10, we or our managers are approached with a trade of food stamps for rent. For example, we are usually offered $100 of grocery purchases for $75 reduction in rent. It is a currency. Most food is procured through church run programs.

I do have to say that...since food stamps don't pay for the other stuff, I do wonder what that gov't expects? If they are giving what seems to be too much of one thing, and not enough of the other, shouldn't they expect that this sort of thing will happen?

I have a hard time seeing ALL cases of that sort of thing to show that recipients are not truly impoverished, but rather that what the gov't is giving doesn't meet their actual needs, and there's nothing else they can do.


You can do ALL of that without pretending to be impoverished in some strange money saving scheme.

I'm really torn, because I'm halfway with you, Robin. The part that isn't is the part that knows that some kids REALLY really really do learn from experience, not just learning *about* things. We do an "experiential" curriculum, Oak Meadow (a Waldorf offshoot), and it would really support doing something like this. But it doesn't work *for me*, not always, and definitely not with this sort of subject.


That's also known as food stamp fraud and can land you in jail for a while, I don't think I would be sharing that on a public forum.

If a person says they were offered something, there's no need to read "and I accepted" into that sentence.


If my kid's teacher told me that it was "educational" for an 11 year old to cut coupons, read recipes, create a paper price book, handle money, make an inventory, weigh and measure or learn unit pricing - I'd be asking what the school taught up until then.

I don't understand. Those things ARE educational. They involve skills inside of other subjects, teach new skills (part of our 3rd grade curriculum involves cooking from recipes!), and are skills that will be used *for life*.

And I know my public school taught me none of that. I was already reading by the time I even hit Montessori at 4 (those "if you can read this thank a teacher" stickers enrage me since no one *taught* me to read), my mom cooked with us as much as possible, and even made bread *whenever possible*, even when working her rear off to pay for rent and clothes. OK I'll admit that it was Girl Scouts that taught me to make change (so that's hair-braiding, making change, and "snack" as the things GS taught me).

Every time we go to the store I'm teaching DS about budgeting; they don't take you to stores in school.
 
I'm really torn, because I'm halfway with you, Robin. The part that isn't is the part that knows that some kids REALLY really really do learn from experience, not just learning *about* things. We do an "experiential" curriculum, Oak Meadow (a Waldorf offshoot), and it would really support doing something like this. But it doesn't work *for me*, not always, and definitely not with this sort of subject.
Honestly, the 1-Week Challenge the OP's plan is based on doesn't bother me. I think it would be an eye-opener for many people to have to make a choice between meat and milk because you could not afford both for the week. I have no problem getting kids involved in a real life experiment to try to budget that meager amount for food and for them to experience how it is to be poor. I think it's great to encourage children to appreciate what they have. But when then OP extends what is meant to be a week long learning experience to a month-long penny-pinching endeavor ... well for me that changes the focus of the experiment. She's not saying outright that she's planning to act like she's impoverished to save money, but that's what I believe she's doing. I personally can't imagine putting my kids in that kind of extended situation unless it was absolutely necessary. And saving money for a Disney trip is NOT a necessity.
 
OP, you could even expand on this. Have the student pick an occupation and research salaries for that occupation, then housing, transportation, and utility costs.

Then, create a budget based on all of that.
 
I think it's a great idea for a homeschool unit. I didn't homeschool my girls, but they absolutely have learned these lessons over the years. All of us, whether we ever experience real poverty or not, will go through periods in our lives when we need to cut back on expenses -- whether it's because we lose a job, whether we need to save for a big expense, or whatever -- and MANY PEOPLE today simply don't know how to manage on less: I'm thinking of a girl with whom I used to work who declared that she and her live-in boyfriend spent more money cooking at home than they did eating out every night. An amazing number of people can't cook anything at home beyond a simple hamburger or mac-and-cheese out of the box.

I do agree that if you're assuming you were buying with food stamps, your kids would also be getting free breakfast and lunches at school; thus, you really don't have to provide three meals per day on Food Stamps. Even in the summer we have lunchtime meals for kids every single day at one church or another.

As for how people in real poverty approach meal planning, I really think my cousin and his family are not that unusual: His family's biggest problem is lack of knowledge and an unwillingness to put forth effort. When he's working (which is about 2/3 of the year), on the day he gets paid they go to some place like Golden Corral, stuff themselves, and steal a little food in their pockets -- maybe they do that for two days. Then they eat fast food 'til they run out of money. Then they either mooch off family members or eat nothing 'til he gets paid again. The kids do get free meals at school, and they might have a bit of cereal or something similar at home . . . but they NEVER cook. When he's not working, they frequent various soup kitchens. Various family members have tried to help him and his girlfriend understand that they can make nutritious meals inexpensively, but they "don't like" beans and cornbread, casseroles, etc. Even making frozen pot pies or frozen lasagna is "too much trouble", or they don't have money for groceries -- yet they have money for Bojangles' breakfast biscuits. And cigarettes, let's not forget cigarettes. He wasn't raised that way, but he took to his girlfriend's habits quickly.

In contrast, when my dad left and we were on Food Stamps during my teenaged years, I was in charge of grocery shopping and cooking. Even as a teen (I hadn't yet had years of frugal experience and couldn't cook as well as I can now), I could manage to get ample food for the week for us -- but we never ate out, and we were very careful about saving leftovers. We'd always eaten at home, so it wasn't a change for us.

I personally wouldn't approach this as an "Experience Poverty" unit; rather, I'd see it as a way to learn how to live frugally and how to learn to do without things "everyone has" these days.

The kind of things I'd do -- actually things I have done with my girls over the years:

- Learn just what one can make with a potato; compare the cost/nutritional value of real potatoes, potato flakes, prepared mashed potatoes, potato chips, and french fries.
- Learn to put aside all leftovers in a big bin in the freezer . . . and then learn that soup can be made practically for free.
- Learn to make homemade bread, and compare the cost/nutritional value/taste of homemade bread, store-brand bread, and fancy deli bread.
- Learn to cook dried beans, lentils, pasta.
- Compare the cost/nutritional value of fresh fruit, canned fruit, frozen fruit and pie filling.
- Learn to make casseroles for the freezer. Saving time is just as important as saving money.
- Make a homemade lasagna and buy a frozen lasagna; compare the cost/nutritional value/taste.
- An overall budget with a couple twists: One week you're trying to keep to low costs, yet you need to prepare a special birthday meal; another week you have to feed a diabetic; another week is going to be hectic, so you need to prepare all quick-to-fix meals; etc. Then compare the budgets.
 
OP, you could even expand on this. Have the student pick an occupation and research salaries for that occupation, then housing, transportation, and utility costs.

Then, create a budget based on all of that.
That's a good idea. I know that at our school, in the Practical Finance class, they do one project called a "First Day" project. From one hat students draw a "job". From another they draw "helps". From another they draw "financial obligations". They pull these separately because in real life they aren't always connected. So, if you were in this project you might work with this information:

- You're a day care worker recently hired to work in a large day care center.
- You have very supportive parents who will let you live with them as long as you like. They provide you with food and utilities, and they require that you put aside $100/week in your savings as your "rent".
- You owe $150/month in students loans and $200/month for your car payment.

Or perhaps

- You're an RN recently hired to work the night shift at the hospital.
- You're single, and you have no family living near enough to help you. You live in a city, and reliable public transportation is available to you.
- You have a one-year old, and your day care costs are $100/week. You rent a one-bedroom apartment for $600/month. You are not receiving any financial help from your child's father.

Some students'll be lucky: They'll get a high paying job, plenty of family support, and few obligations. Others'll be hammered with bad luck: A low-paying job, little help, and high obligations. But isn't that realistic? Life does treat some of us better than others.

So, what's "First Day" about this? The students must look up what a person in their job might expect to earn (benefits too) as a brand-new worker. They also have to figure up what it would cost them to work: What clothing they'd need, transportation expenses, lunches, other costs -- and it's all figured for their "first day at work", not what salary they might earn after years on the job. They talk about how much they'll lose to taxes, though they tend not to grasp that too strongly. Which students really get upset with their lot in life? The ones who started college but didn't finish; inevitably they find themselves in low-paying jobs AND they have to pay back student loans. None of them ever think this is a realistic scenerio, and they think the person who draws that lot has been "unfaired against".

They LOVE this project, and they love presenting it to the class. I've made it appear shorter than it actually is; they have to put together a whole booklet on what it would take to live if these were their actual circumstances. They learn that sometimes help from family is as valuable as a high income, and they see that debt cuts into the paycheck significantly.
 
This sounds like a great lesson that will serve your son all of his life!

How old was your son when you started this project?

My son was 14 when we started having him shop with different budgets. He's 15 now. I don't think children learn enough about budgeting, money, and financial matters. They are important skills that they will all need sooner or later.
 
I think it's a great idea for a homeschool unit. I didn't homeschool my girls, but they absolutely have learned these lessons over the years. All of us, whether we ever experience real poverty or not, will go through periods in our lives when we need to cut back on expenses -- whether it's because we lose a job, whether we need to save for a big expense, or whatever -- and MANY PEOPLE today simply don't know how to manage on less: I'm thinking of a girl with whom I used to work who declared that she and her live-in boyfriend spent more money cooking at home than they did eating out every night. An amazing number of people can't cook anything at home beyond a simple hamburger or mac-and-cheese out of the box.

I do agree that if you're assuming you were buying with food stamps, your kids would also be getting free breakfast and lunches at school; thus, you really don't have to provide three meals per day on Food Stamps. Even in the summer we have lunchtime meals for kids every single day at one church or another.

As for how people in real poverty approach meal planning, I really think my cousin and his family are not that unusual: His family's biggest problem is lack of knowledge and an unwillingness to put forth effort. When he's working (which is about 2/3 of the year), on the day he gets paid they go to some place like Golden Corral, stuff themselves, and steal a little food in their pockets -- maybe they do that for two days. Then they eat fast food 'til they run out of money. Then they either mooch off family members or eat nothing 'til he gets paid again. The kids do get free meals at school, and they might have a bit of cereal or something similar at home . . . but they NEVER cook. When he's not working, they frequent various soup kitchens. Various family members have tried to help him and his girlfriend understand that they can make nutritious meals inexpensively, but they "don't like" beans and cornbread, casseroles, etc. Even making frozen pot pies or frozen lasagna is "too much trouble", or they don't have money for groceries -- yet they have money for Bojangles' breakfast biscuits. And cigarettes, let's not forget cigarettes. He wasn't raised that way, but he took to his girlfriend's habits quickly.

In contrast, when my dad left and we were on Food Stamps during my teenaged years, I was in charge of grocery shopping and cooking. Even as a teen (I hadn't yet had years of frugal experience and couldn't cook as well as I can now), I could manage to get ample food for the week for us -- but we never ate out, and we were very careful about saving leftovers. We'd always eaten at home, so it wasn't a change for us.

I personally wouldn't approach this as an "Experience Poverty" unit; rather, I'd see it as a way to learn how to live frugally and how to learn to do without things "everyone has" these days.

The kind of things I'd do -- actually things I have done with my girls over the years:

- Learn just what one can make with a potato; compare the cost/nutritional value of real potatoes, potato flakes, prepared mashed potatoes, potato chips, and french fries.
- Learn to put aside all leftovers in a big bin in the freezer . . . and then learn that soup can be made practically for free.
- Learn to make homemade bread, and compare the cost/nutritional value/taste of homemade bread, store-brand bread, and fancy deli bread.
- Learn to cook dried beans, lentils, pasta.
- Compare the cost/nutritional value of fresh fruit, canned fruit, frozen fruit and pie filling.
- Learn to make casseroles for the freezer. Saving time is just as important as saving money.
- Make a homemade lasagna and buy a frozen lasagna; compare the cost/nutritional value/taste.
- An overall budget with a couple twists: One week you're trying to keep to low costs, yet you need to prepare a special birthday meal; another week you have to feed a diabetic; another week is going to be hectic, so you need to prepare all quick-to-fix meals; etc. Then compare the budgets.

Love your ideas!
 
For those that say they are to young they are most definitely not.
You can never be to young to learn about budgets & money.
 
I think even just learning to like home prepared foods as a younger child sets them up for options later.
 
OP, you could even expand on this. Have the student pick an occupation and research salaries for that occupation, then housing, transportation, and utility costs.

Then, create a budget based on all of that.

We made a game like this when my stepdaughter was 14-15. Smart girl was doing terribly in school, wrong crowd that sort of thing, she moved in with us and homeschooled for one semester (which was awful, and as you can imagine horrible for our relationship, but we were desperate) and we were worried she may never graduate. We had her pick four or five jobs she could see herself doing in her life that required different educational backgrounds. One was high school drop-out, then graduate, some college or tech school, college grad or masters. She then looked up actual starting salaries in those professions and then we made budgets to go along with those jobs, looked at cars or in some cases bus schedules, rent for typical apartments, or in some cases paying dad and I rent :)
It was really fun , and I think the best lesson came when she picked hairdresser for her not finish high school job, and we responded Noooo! you can't just start cutting people's hair you go to school for that! She seriously thought there were all sorts of things you could just start doing with not even a high school diploma. Or maybe when before we looked at salaries she decided on a $500 entertainment and $500 clothing budget a month :rotfl:
It worked out naturally that for her to have her own place and a car of any type she had to do the job that required college. Since a car and moving out were her top two priorities, and the idea of living in our basement and taking the bus scared her into straight A's the next semester :)
 
Honestly, the 1-Week Challenge the OP's plan is based on doesn't bother me. I think it would be an eye-opener for many people to have to make a choice between meat and milk because you could not afford both for the week. I have no problem getting kids involved in a real life experiment to try to budget that meager amount for food and for them to experience how it is to be poor. I think it's great to encourage children to appreciate what they have. But when then OP extends what is meant to be a week long learning experience to a month-long penny-pinching endeavor ... well for me that changes the focus of the experiment. She's not saying outright that she's planning to act like she's impoverished to save money, but that's what I believe she's doing. I personally can't imagine putting my kids in that kind of extended situation unless it was absolutely necessary. And saving money for a Disney trip is NOT a necessity.

Wow, lots of assumptions. . We actually do unit studies all the time and typically we need longer than a week to really get the most out of everything. And as I said I was continuing with their regular lessons for the month- horseback riding, skiing, swim and music- pretty sure the kids won't feel impoverished, (but know I'll probably get slammed again for that- not acting poor enough) it is not like I will make them go hungry, they just might have to try generic cereal and make some choices they don't normally need too. And they are excited to do it, they love our projects. And we're not actually saving for a Disney trip right now, we just got back from one. Funny half the people saying they WISHED they had maxium SNAP benefit money for groceries every month and now this lady is acting like I'll be abusing my kids if they have to have their food bought from that kind of budget ? :confused3 Interesting ... I guess I'll find out what I think on cooking and eating from that kind of budget. We homeschool largely because we can make learning fun (as well as makes my kid's sport activities feasible and because of some health issues dd has) There is no point to continuing an activity meant to make learning fun and interesting that isn't doing it, so we would certainly stop if the kids are actually unhappy.
 
OP, I think you're doing something valuable for your kids.

Now, as far as food stamps, it seems like I've had this argument on so. many. boards. It's ridiculous. I've gotten into heated arguments about how I could not live on $29/week, it was IMPOSSIBLE and blah blah blah.

We received gov't assistance when I was a kid. We got food stamps, gov't cheese and peanut butter, the whole shebang. Dad was no good at holding down a job. I was a kid, so not really much I could do about that.

One assumption everyone makes is that you are completely zeroed out at the end of each week and need to start completely from scratch. No flour, no salt, no spices, whatever. And having lived poor (and lived on $40/week food budget for 2 when I was in law school), that's just not true. You do acquire "pantry food." If you're smart, you stock up on pantry items when they're on sale. You may not get a ton of variety in your diet, because if you're good at stocking up on sale food, you tend to eat a lot of the same things.

But most of the high profile people who are doing a food stamp challenge do not stick with it long enough to see how you can build up some staples, like spices. Nor do most do what most poor people do, at least when I was a kid. That's called sharing. Borrowing a cup of flour or an egg this week, lending a cup of sugar. Neighbors who share their extra tomatoes. Etc.

I think the point is to understand that it's hard to struggle on limited means, but that there are resources, including careful planning as well as friends/family/church/community, and it's kind of hard to "fake" the latter as an experiment. That there's still dignity and compassion and a purpose to your existence, even if you're struggling.

And for whatever it is worth - at least half of all food stamp recipients are children, who have no choice in the matter of bringing in more income. I grew up, went to law school, and by most measures I'm a success story. I'm glad my family had a resource for food. I wouldn't begrudge food stamps when we're giving out "corporate welfare" in the form of huge tax deductions for oil companies. I'd rather err on the side of assuming that someone wouldn't subject themselves to the stigma and administrative hassle of receiving food stamps if they had an alternative. And I hate to think of tiny, empty tummies in America.
 
That's a good idea. I know that at our school, in the Practical Finance class, they do one project called a "First Day" project. From one hat students draw a "job". From another they draw "helps". From another they draw "financial obligations". They pull these separately because in real life they aren't always connected. So, if you were in this project you might work with this information:

- You're a day care worker recently hired to work in a large day care center.
- You have very supportive parents who will let you live with them as long as you like. They provide you with food and utilities, and they require that you put aside $100/week in your savings as your "rent".
- You owe $150/month in students loans and $200/month for your car payment.

Or perhaps

- You're an RN recently hired to work the night shift at the hospital.
- You're single, and you have no family living near enough to help you. You live in a city, and reliable public transportation is available to you.
- You have a one-year old, and your day care costs are $100/week. You rent a one-bedroom apartment for $600/month. You are not receiving any financial help from your child's father.

Some students'll be lucky: They'll get a high paying job, plenty of family support, and few obligations. Others'll be hammered with bad luck: A low-paying job, little help, and high obligations. But isn't that realistic? Life does treat some of us better than others.

So, what's "First Day" about this? The students must look up what a person in their job might expect to earn (benefits too) as a brand-new worker. They also have to figure up what it would cost them to work: What clothing they'd need, transportation expenses, lunches, other costs -- and it's all figured for their "first day at work", not what salary they might earn after years on the job. They talk about how much they'll lose to taxes, though they tend not to grasp that too strongly. Which students really get upset with their lot in life? The ones who started college but didn't finish; inevitably they find themselves in low-paying jobs AND they have to pay back student loans. None of them ever think this is a realistic scenerio, and they think the person who draws that lot has been "unfaired against".

They LOVE this project, and they love presenting it to the class. I've made it appear shorter than it actually is; they have to put together a whole booklet on what it would take to live if these were their actual circumstances. They learn that sometimes help from family is as valuable as a high income, and they see that debt cuts into the paycheck significantly.

:thumbsup2 I knew a Free Enterprise teacher who did something like this with her students, down to making them budget out and prove what they would eat day by day. She made them each take a low-paying job with no support and a kid or two, then a solid working class job etc. She and I used to call it the "scare those kids into going at least to vo-tech, if not to college" part of the semester.
 
I don't know what SNAP is - it didn't exist in Michigan in the late 70's/early 80's when I was on govt assistance. Those items you mentioned were "luxury" items and not included in the funds we received. We struggled to buy toilet paper and tampons! Heck, I remember once when cashier argued with my mom that we couldn't buy a can of Crisco shortening with our food stamps, telling us that it wasn't "food." After going back and forth, my mom just gave up and had her remove it. Of course, the cashier was wrong about this. But who wants to draw attention with a book of food stamps in your hand?

SNAP is the newish name for food stamps. The PP was probably thinking of TANF, which is the cash benefit program, but most food stamp recipients don't qualify for that as it requires very extreme poverty. Food stamps/SNAP have much higher income limits, which is why the average allotment is a misleading number for food stamp challenges - families receiving the average benefit have some income and as such SNAP is meant as a supplement rather than a complete diet. The maximum benefit, which is what families with no income would receive, isn't terribly stingy; it is about in line with what I spend to feed my family, certainly not a lobster-and-steak budget but enough to provide a reasonably healthy stir-fry-and-casserole diet without anyone going hungry.
 












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