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[shoegal9]

I have two June DVC trips booked... June 3-7 at Old Key West and June 18-21 at Copper Creek. I just signed into DVC to move OKW to Riviera and I get the 7 Dwarves “We are Working on it” Construction page. Has been that way all evening. But the June 18th reservation I am able to modify.

Update: Never mind. It just worked. I can literally have anything I want. In any other situation I would be thrilled.

 

[Mit88]

Yep which is why I think this rolling 7 day window is the best way to go And call it "indefinite closure". Gives them flexibility to open things once it looks safe but no promises.

I have doubts on early June since I'm not sure they would go a full month without any new reservations being allowed but honestly none of us know. We are all speculating And in a time like this nobody really knows if we are not on the disney zoom conference calls.

Well, there is logical reasoning behind cutting off reservations a month ahead of time. First, if that was the nail in the coffin for June that it looked to be, they would have cancelled June reservations right then and there and just restarted rolling cancellations again in mid-late June for July reservations, if need be.

But it’s much easier to ease your way to a capacity limit than to have too many people staying on property and deny resort guests entry to the parks. With having the parks open, but not having full resorts they can control the capacity much easier as it creeps closer to their imposed limit. They’re more than likely going to allow locals in, they’re not as dependent on locals as much as DL is, but the locals in Florida still very much play a part, and they do not want to piss all of them off. Chances are, theyre below the self imposed capacity limit with the resort guests they currently have, so they have a number of spots available to make a certain number of remaining tickets available by reservation and dates tickets. It’s much easier to please a larger net of guests by not having to tell resort guests they can’t go into the parks, and not having to cast out locals and non resort guests altogether. They’ll anger people that don’t get a reservation spot (assuming they go that route) but let’s be honest, we’re seeing it already, they’re not going to satisfy everyone upon opening.

I can’t say for certain when they’ll open, no one can. But even the little hints dropping like magic bands shipping out, magical express tags being emailed, not extending the free dining offer beyond June that are good indications that they’re at least still trying to open up in June.

But like I said numerous times today, what looks promising today could be crushed tomorrow with either a report that doesn’t look promising, or straight up cancellations. Things are very fluid in all of this, and if they decide to open in June, I don’t expect a long window between announcement and opening date

 

[Krandor]

Well, there is logical reasoning behind cutting off reservations a month ahead of time. First, if that was the nail in the coffin for June that it looked to be, they would have cancelled June reservations right then and there and just restarted rolling cancellations again in mid-late June for July reservations, if need be.

But it’s much easier to ease your way to a capacity limit than to have too many people staying on property and deny resort guests entry to the parks. With having the parks open, but not having full resorts they can control the capacity much easier as it creeps closer to their imposed limit. They’re more than likely going to allow locals in, they’re not as dependent on locals as much as DL is, but the locals in Florida still very much play a part, and they do not want to piss all of them off. Chances are, theyre below the self imposed capacity limit with the resort guests they currently have, so they have a number of spots available to make a certain number of remaining tickets available by reservation and dates tickets. It’s much easier to please a larger net of guests by not having to tell resort guests they can’t go into the parks, and not having to cast out locals and non resort guests altogether. They’ll anger people that don’t get a reservation spot (assuming they go that route) but let’s be honest, we’re seeing it already, they’re not going to satisfy everyone upon opening.

I can’t say for certain when they’ll open, no one can. But even the little hints dropping like magic bands shipping out, magical express tags being emailed, not extending the free dining offer beyond June that are good indications that they’re at least still trying to open up in June.

But like I said numerous times today, what looks promising today could be crushed tomorrow with either a report that doesn’t look promising, or straight up cancellations. Things are very fluid in all of this, and if they decide to open in June, I don’t expect a long window between announcement and opening date

Very possible I just don't think they would do a full month of that. Personally I dont think June 1 is happening. June 15 or June 20. Maybe. A week or two of a soft opening could makes sense.

But of course we are all guessing.

 

[Mit88]

Very possible I just don't think they would do a full month of that. Personally I dont think June 1 is happening. June 15 or June 20. Maybe. A week or two of a soft opening could makes sense.

But of course we are all guessing.

Its better to be under the imposed capacity than be over it. People would rush to book resort stays immediately after Disney announces they’re opening on whatever date they decide on and fill those resorts up. Not having availability at the resorts prevents that mad rush and potential over crowding. They told their investors that they wouldn’t open without being able to profit. Half full resorts with people that will eat on property, buy merchandise, pay for tickets etc will still allow that to happen. They don’t need to overcrowd the resorts and parks to bring in profits.

 

[Krandor]

Its better to be under the imposed capacity than be over it. People would rush to book resort stays immediately after Disney announces they’re opening on whatever date they decide on and fill those resorts up. Not having availability at the resorts prevents that mad rush and potential over crowding. They told their investors that they wouldn’t open without being able to profit. Half full resorts with people that will eat on property, buy merchandise, pay for tickets etc will still allow that to happen. They don’t need to overcrowd the resorts and parks to bring in profits.

That will happen whenever. If they open June 1 and July 1st is the first available Date that day will get flooded. That can't be changed. If they are going to simply cap resort attendance per day they have to do it accross the board Which they haven't done.

 

[CheshireCas]

I have a Pop Century reservation 1 - 8 June and it’s all still there in MDE, room, Fastpasses and dining reservations. We are FL resident Annual Passholsers. No communication on changes or cancellation.

We are June 1 - 6 at Pop! Maybe we will see each other soon!

 

[Mit88]

That will happen whenever. If they open June 1 and July 1st is the first available Date that day will get flooded. That can't be changed. If they are going to simply cap resort attendance per day they have to do it accross the board Which they haven't done.

What do you mean, across the board? As in capping July reservations now? I checked today and there’s plenty of availability in July. Maybe they haven’t hit their target number, and when they do, they’ll cap July reservations as well. But they probably won’t hit that number until either they announce an opening date, or until mid-June. But also remember, the capacity limit will increase, so they have more wiggle room in July than they would in June if they were to open. If cutting off reservations for June was a no doubt indication, then there would be no need to continue the rolling cancellations for June reservations.

 

[Krandor]

What do you mean, across the board? As in capping July reservations now? I checked today and there’s plenty of availability in July. Maybe they haven’t hit their target number, and when they do, they’ll cap July reservations as well. But they probably won’t hit that number until either they announce an opening date, or until mid-June. But also remember, the capacity limit will increase, so they have more wiggle room in July than they would in June if they were to open. If cutting off reservations for June was a no doubt indication, then there would be no need to continue the rolling cancellations for June reservations.

That was my point. They hit every single target number in June on the same day and time but at that same time not a single july target number was hit? That seems very likely that the days they have hit target numbers fall so nicely on month boundaries. If it was simply target numbers I'd expect "July 1-10th have no availability but June 11 does and then 12-13 are not avaible" and so forth.

Just seems too neat at a specific month bounty to simply be target numbers. In fact if any time should be over target numbers it would be JUly 4th which you can still book for. Are there really more people wanting to go Julie 1-5 then July 1-5? I doubt it.

Just too clean IMO to be simply target numbers.

 

[Brit_Jude]

We are June 1 - 6 at Pop! Maybe we will see each other soon!

Yes!

 

[Yooperroo]

That was my point. They hit every single target number in June on the same day and time but at that same time not a single july target number was hit? That seems very likely that the days they have hit target numbers fall so nicely on month boundaries.

You are thinking far too specifically in regards to numbers. They could have closed reservations because the averages across the board for the month of June, IF they could open, were below capacity. That gives them room to offer tickets in a reservation basis like Shanghai for locals and APs. OR they were already above and they closed it before it could get more out of hand and they hope there's enough cancellations when restrictions come out to put them at a comfortable level IF they decide to open in June.
You say closing reservations means they certainly won't open anytime in June. While someone else could turn around and easily argue it's indicative that they hope to have a soft opening in June sometime, and by the time July comes around their capacity limits will be higher.

 

[Mit88]

That was my point. They hit every single target number in June on the same day and time but at that same time not a single july target number was hit? That seems very likely that the days they have hit target numbers fall so nicely on month boundaries. If it was simply target numbers I'd expect "July 1-10th have no availability but June 11 does and then 12-13 are not avaible" and so forth.

Just seems too neat at a specific month bounty to simply be target numbers. In fact if any time should be over target numbers it would be JUly 4th which you can still book for. Are there really more people wanting to go Julie 1-5 then July 1-5? I doubt it.

Just too clean IMO to be simply target numbers.

They can easily fulfill remaining openings with locals and non resort guests. It doesn’t have to be an equal amount of rooms booked every day from June 1st-June 30th, they could be 75% full at all resorts one day and 40% full the next and have a good idea of how many people they can allow in outside of the resorts via reservations. If they don’t fill up their full implemented capacity every day, they’d still profit, and be making far more per day than the -$30M they’re currently losing. I just think they’re going to try as hard as they possibly can and open up for at least a few weeks during Q3 in order to not get hit with the full brunt of no NBA playoffs on ESPN/ABC, no theatrically released films, no parks. They got hit very hard in Q2 and the parks were open for a few weeks, had NBA games, Spring Training games, Onward.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, and I’m right. I’m just saying it’s not as illogical as some people seem to think that they’re doing what they’re doing to gear up for a near future reopening

 

[Krandor]

You say closing reservations means they certainly won't open anytime in June. While someone else could turn around and easily argue it's indicative that they hope to have a soft opening in June sometime, and by the time July comes around their capacity limits will be higher.

I never once said they would never open in June. I just don't buy that they hit capacity on June 30th but haven't hit capacity on July 4th.

I said several posts ago that a soft opening mid-June is possible but that doesn't mean they have hit any specific capacity numbers. Whatever that are doing isn't; about capacity but about dates. They want to block off certain dates.

 

[Mit88]

I never once said they would never open in June. I just don't buy that they hit capacity on June 30th but haven't hit capacity on July 4th.

I said several posts ago that a soft opening mid-June is possible but that doesn't mean they have hit any specific capacity numbers. Whatever that are doing isn't; about capacity but about dates. They want to block off certain dates.

It is about capacity though. If they’re at full capacity at every resort. Or even at 80% full at every result, they would not be able to keep below 20-24% of their max capacity. Last I checked, there was still a lot of availability for July 4th weekend. But as I said, capacity is projected to rise as weeks go by, theyre not going to be at 20-24% on July 4th if they open June 1st

 

[Krandor]

It is about capacity though. If they’re at full capacity at every resort. Or even at 80% full at every result, they would not be able to keep below 20-24% of their max capacity. Last I checked, there was still a lot of availability for July 4th weekend. But as I said, capacity is projected to rise as weeks go by, theyre not going to be at 20-24% on July 4th if they open June 1st

Before they blocked things off there was plenty of available on June 20-30th. Did all that fill up suddenly?

 

[Mit88]

Before they blocked things off there was plenty of available on June 20-30th. Did all that fill up suddenly?

Probably not. But again, it’s easier to ease their way up to a capacity limit using off site guests and locals than it is to deny people at the gate because they have too many people staying on property. They announced this July 1st availability change last Friday, why didn’t they immediately change the MDE message to “We will be closed until at least June 30th” ? They did that in April.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Thank you, whenever we do get to go to Disney, we will for sure celebrate it

You can always tell them while there. Since PP couldn’t so much as change an age they could have locked down all reservation aspects.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Before they blocked things off there was plenty of available on June 20-30th. Did all that fill up suddenly?

No. The speculation launched today was if they hit a secret new capacity for June that could involve only some hotels being opened and limited capacity at that.

 

[whiporee]

As I hold out hope for June1, they could be using June as a test run, and then be pretty much back to normal in July. That's why July's not seeing caps and inviting people to come, and June's closed off after a limited number. Or that the June cap is much smaller than the July one.

I guess we'll know soon enough.

 

[LSUmiss]

That was my point. They hit every single target number in June on the same day and time but at that same time not a single july target number was hit? That seems very likely that the days they have hit target numbers fall so nicely on month boundaries. If it was simply target numbers I'd expect "July 1-10th have no availability but June 11 does and then 12-13 are not avaible" and so forth.

Just seems too neat at a specific month bounty to simply be target numbers. In fact if any time should be over target numbers it would be JUly 4th which you can still book for. Are there really more people wanting to go Julie 1-5 then July 1-5? I doubt it.

Just too clean IMO to be simply target numbers.

Unless they’re hoping to be able to allow a much greater capacity by July.

btw I don’t know what I’ll do with my time once we do get an answer.

 

[Mit88]

As I hold out hope for June1, they could be using June as a test run, and then be pretty much back to normal in July. That's why July's not seeing caps and inviting people to come, and June's closed off after a limited number. Or that the June cap is much smaller than the July one.

I guess we'll know soon enough.

I don’t think they’ll be able to open back up to normal by July, but if they’re following the same capacity percentages, they could get up to about what the daily average capacity is. We don’t know what may or may not be a blueprint, if any from Shanghai to the domestic. We know Chapek said it’s much different. But I think it’s a good assumption WDW will start with a low capacity percentage like Shanghai, could even be the same 20% number, and increase it. Shanghai instituted a 24% limit, Disney opened up at 20%. Orlando instituted 50%(whether thats based on max capacity, or daily average capacity we dont know) but Disney certainly not opening at 50% of max capacity. But Shanghai is scheduled to increase capacity every 2 weeks (could change depending on the situation) first to 30%, and then to 50%. If WDW follows that pattern if they opened June 1st, if things go well, they could be at 50% capacity before July 1st and they wouldnt need to cap reservations for July