Line jumpers, or "I'm just catching up to my party"

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We do use a backpack but those animal ones are wicked hot(we did eventually have to use it though) and I couldn't find my basic harness for full time use on the trip. Not that I feel the need to defend my child but he did really great for a 2yr old waiting in some long lines and had a lot of pent up energy from having to be the only one to wait it out for a lot of height restricted rides.

I didn't mean to make you feel like you had to defend a 2 year old. :goodvibes I remember going to WDW when my kids were 2 - it takes full concentration to make sure they don't end up somewhere else! Just thought it might be a useful tip if you didn't know about the backpacks. I did not know about them when my girls were smaller and spent most of those trips either strapping them into the stroller or worrying about them getting lost if they were not strapped in. It's much easier now that they are older and we don't even have to keep up with strollers! Since you didn't mention how old your DS was, it could have been a completely useless tip (no way DD5 would wear a backpack, but she is old enough that if she doesn't wait in line, she doesn't ride).

Anyway, I doubt anyone had a problem with you last week. :thumbsup2 The problem most people seem to be talking about is people joining family members who have been in line for a while or sending a child to jump in front, then having the child say the mom needs to get past them (like a PP reported).
 
we didn't have any problems with line-jumpers when there last week, but then the parks weren't all that busy, either. Have never seen one person holding the line for a tour group, either. Although we've seen plenty of tour groups of 20-50 people all get in line at once (luckily, behind us!)

One thing I will say though...if it's that important for your party to stay together, why don't the ones already in line just let the line pass them by until the late-comer arrives? We've done that several times when we wanted to be sure to ride together. No one objected to being waved ahead, I'll tell you that!:rotfl:

Or just stay separated. It's not that big of a deal, really.
 
Should a whole family leave the line to take 1 of their children to the bathroom?

Definitely.

If my kids decide they have to pee, we all get out of line. I'm teaching my kids manners and respect for the other people in line who are actually waiting their turn.
 
My personal fave is when the front of the line party is on the cell phone with the back of the line party helping to navigate them through the line so that they can "catch up." (I.e. "See me waving my hand? OK, well you guys c'mon up!") Or even better, they call someone who isn't even IN the line to come join them ("you guys c'mon over to Haunted Mansion with us....we're just about to enter the building") and minutes later, the other half of the group shows up to join them.

Or group of unsupervised younger adults in front standing on tippy toe, motioning to second group in the back w/ matching field trip shirts, waving them up while nervously glancing around to see if anyone saw them. Depending on how obvious with their intentions they are being, this is when I've been known to pipe in with, "Did you guys need to go back there and join them, because they are NOT cutting in front of me and everyone else to get up here with you?" Generally stops them dead in their tracks. (As has been said, if you want to ride/wait 'together,' why doesn't the front group move BACK to join the other group? :confused3 )

Instances like THOSE are the ones that irritate me.:furious: It's clear and obvious then that it wasn't an emergency potty break holding anyone up.
 

I feel the same way. I've MADE my kids go to the restroom before entering a particularly long queue, just so I wouldn't have to barge my way back in line.

How in the world could you MAKE your child go to the bathroom, use a catheter? I could see having your child attempt to go, but you can't always be sure having to go while waiting in line won't happen to your child.
 
Originally Posted by Deb in IA View Post
I feel the same way. I've MADE my kids go to the restroom before entering a particularly long queue, just so I wouldn't have to barge my way back in line.
How in the world could you MAKE your child go to the bathroom, use a catheter? I could see having your child attempt to go, but you can't always be sure having to go while waiting in line won't happen to your child.

I have to agree with Deb in IA. When I call potty-break (which i do frequently) everyone goes, no matter what. It's amazing how motivated a kid can be to pee when you're saying "no one rides a ride until you go potty."
 
me and my daughter seem to always find the line jumpers --- the majority of the time i bit my tongue and say hey whats a couple more people in front of us -- i do get mad when that group gets on a ride and then they shut it down or when they cut in front and then obviously arent with anyone else and just hang out in front of us until they can make another break for it --- i have to admit i did leave a line last time i was there and came back to my spot, but there were 8 of us and it was @ HHN and we were in line for nearly 2 hours at that point and i left to have a smoke. when i came back i waited until the line wrapped around to where i could get back in with my group without cutting through a 2 hour long line and where the people who saw me leave would see me come back in. but i would never have joined my friends if i hadnt already put 2 hours into the wait.

Line jumpers at six flags are immediately ejected from the park if they are caught -- which i did have a group of teenagers ejected because they cut in front of us on batman -- not only did they cut in front of us they pushed my daughter out of the way so hard she fell which ticked me off to end.
 
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I have to agree with Deb in IA. When I call potty-break (which i do frequently) everyone goes, no matter what. It's amazing how motivated a kid can be to pee when you're saying "no one rides a ride until you go potty."

Thats fine for your kids, but it doen't work the same way for everybody.

Just saying!
 
The worst line jumping..imho...occurs at the TRAM stops. Don't you just love it when you have waited 4 or 5 trams patiently, queueing up properly in the metal railing to finally reach the front and when the next tram pulls up and you are ready to enter the row in front of you, a group of pushy people appear out of nowhere (or stampede frantically from the next line) into the row that is in front of YOU?

I have actually had that happen to me where I was literally that last "lost" person....separated from my family...wandering up and down the tram looking for a row I could squeeze and there was not a single spot for me. Of course it was fairly satisfying that my husband, kids, and STROLLER (this was many years ago) had to get up and make the tram jumpers get out so they could exit the row and wait for the next tram with me. Unbelievable.

But I would never let it ruin the magic. Just the last time we were at MK we saw a literal fight between two women at the tram loading area. Yes, punches were thrown. Yes both parties had children with them witnessing this. Security had to come break it up. It had to have been over a line cutting/territorial issue, and that's just sad...:sad2:
 
I've got an interesting story on a different way to cut the line - quite a few years ago I was at Universal Studios with my mom. This was a few months before I was having hip surgery so we had rented a wheelchair that day. We were going on one of the rides (King Kong I think) and were using the wheelchair entrance, which was a narrow and steep ramp - and it was also the exit for the ride, so people were walking down while my mom was trying to push me up. This young guy comes over - a foreigner, maybe German? - and asked if he could help my mom push me up the ramp. So he does and we go to wait in line and he's still there with us. The ride attendant asks us how many - my mom and I start to say 2, but the guy says 3! So he rode in the car with us - my mom and I kept looking at each other, trying not to laugh. We were thankful he didn't follow us around for the rest of the day! :rotfl2:

Going to Disney in December with my boys who will be 4 1/2 then - I'd like to think I can "make" them go potty before we get in line, but considering how stubborn they are about it now, I'm sure we'll leaving and re-entering lines at some point.
 
I've got an interesting story on a different way to cut the line - quite a few years ago I was at Universal Studios with my mom. This was a few months before I was having hip surgery so we had rented a wheelchair that day. We were going on one of the rides (King Kong I think) and were using the wheelchair entrance, which was a narrow and steep ramp - and it was also the exit for the ride, so people were walking down while my mom was trying to push me up. This young guy comes over - a foreigner, maybe German? - and asked if he could help my mom push me up the ramp. So he does and we go to wait in line and he's still there with us. The ride attendant asks us how many - my mom and I start to say 2, but the guy says 3! So he rode in the car with us - my mom and I kept looking at each other, trying not to laugh. We were thankful he didn't follow us around for the rest of the day! :rotfl2:

I'm gonna have to remember this trick.;)
 
I've got an interesting story on a different way to cut the line - quite a few years ago I was at Universal Studios with my mom. This was a few months before I was having hip surgery so we had rented a wheelchair that day. We were going on one of the rides (King Kong I think) and were using the wheelchair entrance, which was a narrow and steep ramp - and it was also the exit for the ride, so people were walking down while my mom was trying to push me up. This young guy comes over - a foreigner, maybe German? - and asked if he could help my mom push me up the ramp. So he does and we go to wait in line and he's still there with us. The ride attendant asks us how many - my mom and I start to say 2, but the guy says 3! So he rode in the car with us - my mom and I kept looking at each other, trying not to laugh. We were thankful he didn't follow us around for the rest of the day! :rotfl2:

Going to Disney in December with my boys who will be 4 1/2 then - I'd like to think I can "make" them go potty before we get in line, but considering how stubborn they are about it now, I'm sure we'll leaving and re-entering lines at some point.

;) That's funny.
 
For the very first time I witnessed a CM not allowing people to rejoin their group at WDW - it happened two weeks ago, at Haunted Mansion. The CM actually stated "You cannot leave the line and come back to rejoin your party"! It was a group of 4 women trying to get into the middle of the queue by coming in the open area by the exit/gift cart. There was a CM standing right there and he made them go to the end of the line!
 
For the very first time I witnessed a CM not allowing people to rejoin their group at WDW - it happened two weeks ago, at Haunted Mansion. The CM actually stated "You cannot leave the line and come back to rejoin your party"! It was a group of 4 women trying to get into the middle of the queue by coming in the open area by the exit/gift cart. There was a CM standing right there and he made them go to the end of the line!

But, everybody knows how SURLY those HM CM's can be.

:goodvibes
 
I don't mind occasional line jumpers at all. We've experienced that maybe two times per day on our recent trips. It's always 1-2 people, not a crowd. By the way, it's not something we do, we just don't see the issue with a couple of people catching up for whatever reason.

On our May trip we were in line at Rockin' Rollercoaster with about 60 people behind us & were about to enter the building - these two men & their mom in a wheelchair tried to catch up to their family (who were another 20 people ahead of us) but the couple in front of us weren't having it and they only let the man pushing the mom by (who eventually made it to their family) but not the other guy!!!! :faint: So he stood along with this couple and they all argued their point and stared each other down all the way until we got to the recording studio :confused:

Not worth it to me! If she just let him by she would've been done with him, forgot about it and enjoyed the experience. Sorry, but I seem to go against the majority here. :confused3
 
My DD when she was 4 made a similar remark. She was in 4k preschool and we went to a theme park. We had a DW and DS in front of us and a DH and DS trying to catch up. They went right on by and my DD said "Daddy, can they do that? I thought getting in front of people in line was wrong. That's what they tought us in school." The family all turned red and asked if we wanted to move in front. We politely declined because we had been completely vindicated.
nothing more effective than a 4 yr old knowing the rules of politeness better than the adult line cutters.
What I really have a problem with is what happened to us on our last trip to WDW. We were in line for a ride, and a small child of the family that was in line behind us managed to get around us. I understand, kids get excited! However, if it was my kid, I would have called them back to our family. This family handled it a bit differently, however. The father sqeezed past us to join the kid. Then the second kid went around us. The mother kept trying to pass us as well, but couldn't find a spot to do so (she seemed a bit embarassed). The second (older) kid turned around to me and said "My mom needs to get past you." I responded "Does your mom know how to say Excuse Me?" The kid just looked at me and kept going. When we were at the ride, the mother finally said "Excuse me!" I let her pass, but I was so annoyed! Not because the kid passed us in the first place, but because I think that was their tactic to cut in line! What a great thing to teach your children!!! The only justification was that they couldn't do it to anyone else, since the mother was stuck behind us.
That has actually gotten worse since more lines became wheelchair accessible. When we first started going to WDW, many lines were not accessible and became quite narrow fairly soon after entering the line. There was very little space for anyone to cut ahead.
Now, most lines are at least 36-42 inches wide to allow people with wheelchairs and ECVs to wait in line. We've had problems at times with people coming ahead of us to 'fill in the space' when we were trying to make sure we had enough room in front of us for DD's wheelchair to make a turn without hitting anyone ahead of us.

And there probably are people who are using that as their 'line tactic'.
It's pretty obvious what they are doing if the child goes to the front looking for dad and then the dad goes forward looking for the child
I've got an interesting story on a different way to cut the line - quite a few years ago I was at Universal Studios with my mom. This was a few months before I was having hip surgery so we had rented a wheelchair that day. We were going on one of the rides (King Kong I think) and were using the wheelchair entrance, which was a narrow and steep ramp - and it was also the exit for the ride, so people were walking down while my mom was trying to push me up. This young guy comes over - a foreigner, maybe German? - and asked if he could help my mom push me up the ramp. So he does and we go to wait in line and he's still there with us. The ride attendant asks us how many - my mom and I start to say 2, but the guy says 3! So he rode in the car with us - my mom and I kept looking at each other, trying not to laugh. We were thankful he didn't follow us around for the rest of the day! :rotfl2:

Going to Disney in December with my boys who will be 4 1/2 then - I'd like to think I can "make" them go potty before we get in line, but considering how stubborn they are about it now, I'm sure we'll leaving and re-entering lines at some point.
We've had people try to do that with us - they didn't help push DD's wheelchair, but did try to say they were part of our party. At the Safari at AK, there is a point where people traveling with wheelchairs and ECVs get pulled out of the line and into a separate line to wait in an accessible boarding/unload point. It is just past the place where strollers are left. We had just passed into that part of the line when a guy behind us told the CM there that his group was with us and needed to catch up after leaving a stroller (uhh. Nice try. The youngest person in our party was a teen, who was sitting in her wheelchair and his group was only adults). When we said they were not with us; the guy pointed to a group farther ahead of us and said we were not who he meant, it was this other group. The CM asked loudly if anyone in the line knew these people and no one did. I don't know what happened next, but he was still standing by the CM (who was talking to someone on his radio) when we last saw.
It actually would have served them right to stay with us. They thought they would get loaded faster, but the wait in the handicapped line that day was actually 40 minutes from that point because of the number of people waiting and the number of trams being routed to the accessible stop.
 
We had just gotten in line for POTC and this rude guy brushes past my husband and when we all quit walking (because the line had stopped moving) he was now in front of us. Ok I wasn't too upset about one person, but I could feel his arrogance as he did it. Next thing we know, his two sons join him literally jumping over the ropes to reach him, than comes his wife, and twin daughters. I was so P****d off. Like my kids aren't wanting to do the ride too! If the whole party isn't ready to ride than wait. Thats what we did the entire time we were there because we all wanted to ride together and not have to cut in front of people.

This also happened in IASW. A woman from another country ducked under the rope and cut in front some people that were in front of us. I didn't pay much mind (this was before POTC) when I looked up there later there were about 5 of them total....

UGH!!!! I hate line cutters!!!!:furious:
 
Maybe its just me, but if a party gets separated and they want to be together the people in the front should wait or fall back to meet up with their party. It just common courtesy.
 
I simply ask the line cutters the name of the person they are trying to catch up to. Then I tell them that the people in line will get the message up to that person that they need to come back to meet the rest of their party in the line. I am also fine with an obvious parent that has taken a child to the restroom. We waited 110 minutes last week in the standby line for Toy Story Mania, and there were alot of parents re-entering the line with small children.
 
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