Line Cutting

[Paging Mr. Morrow]

the only time this frustrated me was when i was in the single rider line at rock n roller coaster and a group of 7 or 8 teen girls cut in line and went all the way to the front to "meet their group." It was a single rider line! there are no groups!!! only single riders!!!!!

 

[aubriee]

I haven't read the whole thread but one incident comes to my mind. We were in DL in line for Dumbo. We watched three men (in their 20s), one by one, climb the hill behind the line and jump over the metal bars for the line and get in line "with" the lady in front of us. She told us she didn't know them and she told a CM. They were removed from the ride and security was called. That is the most blatant line cutting I've ever seen.

As you know at the bus stops you are suppoed to board through the front doors of the bus, unless you are part of a wheelchair/ECV party. Once at POP there was alot of people waiting for the buses. My husband and I were there waiting at the handicapped entrance with my mom who was in an ECV. We had already sat through one bus, due to there being two wheelchairs already there when we arrived. Anyway, our bus started to pull up and this young lady came running up, just as the driver started to open that back door and lower the ramp for us. She took one look at the long line, realized she wasn't going to be able to fit on the bus, so jumped in behind us trying to get in the back door. The driver looked at her and told her to go to the back of the line. She smiled sweetly, then blantely lied and said she was with us. I looked at her and said, "Pardon me, no you aren't. We don't even know you." That sweet innocent look on her face quickly disappered and she called me a b-tch. Excuse me, she lied, tried to jump line, then lied to a bus driver and tried to say she was part of a handicapped party, then had the nerve to call me a b-tch?

 

[YodaGirl]

This is a relief to me - I really can't understand why people sitting with no food don't feel guilty when they see people standing up eating. It is especially difficult for anyone touring alone. To me, if there are not enough tables, then you should only be using them when you really need it - more than that is a bit selfish in my book.

Even during busy times, we've never seen someone not be able to find a seat.
And, thanks, but if DH is getting the food, we are using the table. We are patrons of the restaurant. As someone mentioned earlier, we've already gotten condiments, straws, napkins, etc. The food will be there momentarily. I don't see a problem, and unless a CM says something, I'm not moving. If we have an extra seat, you're more than welcome to join us. There are no posted signs in regards to when you can and cannot sit down.

As for CMs patrolling the seating area, another poster's comment makes a lot of sense. It seems as though they are trying to ensure (during certain times) that only restaurant patrons are sitting. The only way to ensure that is to make sure that you have food first. This isn't cracking down on table holders; it's cracking down on people using tables in the a/c when they aren't purchasing food.

As you know at the bus stops you are suppoed to board through the front doors of the bus, unless you are part of a wheelchair/ECV party. Once at POP there was alot of people waiting for the buses. My husband and I were there waiting at the handicapped entrance with my mom who was in an ECV. We had already sat through one bus, due to there being two wheelchairs already there when we arrived. Anyway, our bus started to pull up and this young lady came running up, just as the driver started to open that back door and lower the ramp for us. She took one look at the long line, realized she wasn't going to be able to fit on the bus, so jumped in behind us trying to get in the back door. The driver looked at her and told her to go to the back of the line. She smiled sweetly, then blantely lied and said she was with us. I looked at her and said, "Pardon me, no you aren't. We don't even know you." That sweet innocent look on her face quickly disappered and she called me a b-tch. Excuse me, she lied, tried to jump line, then lied to a bus driver and tried to say she was part of a handicapped party, then had the nerve to call me a b-tch?

That's crazy!

 

[packofjedis]

The worst line cutting we've experienced was last Nov on TSM. The mom of the party stood in the hour long line and when she got all the way to the front where they're assinging you lanes, the dad and kids came through the line. It took him forever to get to the front because people weren't letting him through. Then he forgot his glasses and had to go back.

We were close to the front of the line and there were enough angry people that a CM was asked. He said it wasn't technically allowed but what could they do with the mom blocking space off to the side by the loading zone.

I didn't believe there was anyone waiting for them up front and perhaps it was all a lie. Then I turned the corner and saw that indeed she was waiting....strange.

 

[maxiesmom]

This reminded me. Last Thursday, we ate at the counter service fish & chips store at Epcot. The seating area was reserved for a private party. We saw lots of empty tables, but the CM's wouldn't let us eat there. We carried our food into the England pavilion and all of the benches were full. We simply ate sitting on the curb on the sidewalk. It was actually a peaceful location even though we didn't have a seat.

Not finding a seat sometimes happens at WDW. Sometimes, you just have to make the most of it. We never expected anyone to give up their benches for us.

We have had to eat our fish and chips sitting on the curb before too. And it was actually kind of fun!

Something else to add to the whole table debate: How many of you, if you have extra chairs at your table, are willing to share your space with other guests? My dad and I have done that before when they only table that was available was a large one. We were eating when my dad noticed a couple of women with trays who couldn't find a place to sit. He invited them to share our table, and we all had an enjoyable meal chatting about our trips.

 

[goofyernmost]

We have had to eat our fish and chips sitting on the curb before too. And it was actually kind of fun!

Something else to add to the whole table debate: How many of you, if you have extra chairs at your table, are willing to share your space with other guests? My dad and I have done that before when they only table that was available was a large one. We were eating when my dad noticed a couple of women with trays who couldn't find a place to sit. He invited them to share our table, and we all had an enjoyable meal chatting about our trips.

What? Being civil, helpful and friendly at WDW? What wrong with you? You were there first...no tables available is their problem completely. Socializing even? You would let them invade your space like that? What are you trying to do, have a good time or something? Trying to learn something new about other people? Sharing your experiences with others and letting them share with you? That is so twisted!

Wouldn't it be nice if more people were like your Dad. Life would be a fun experience wouldn't it?

 

[Praying Colonel]

We have had to eat our fish and chips sitting on the curb before too. And it was actually kind of fun!

Something else to add to the whole table debate: How many of you, if you have extra chairs at your table, are willing to share your space with other guests? My dad and I have done that before when they only table that was available was a large one. We were eating when my dad noticed a couple of women with trays who couldn't find a place to sit. He invited them to share our table, and we all had an enjoyable meal chatting about our trips.

If we have extra spots at our table and there are no tables available, we always offer seats to folks who are looking. It's fun to get to know someone else and it helps spread the magic.

 

[aripantaloon]

I've unintentionally been guilty of line cutting. Sometimes, DH walks a little too quickly to a line and I'm not quite there yet with whatever kid I'm towing. He's not running or anything like that, but he's doesn't notice that we aren't directly behind him. Occasionally, another family will be *right* behind him and I can't get to him and our other child without charging ahead.

Depending on the type of ride, I may ask to join him. If it's a ride that we won't all fit together in one car anyway and the line isn't super long, I'll just stay where I am since there's no point to moving up with DH.

It does annoy me when a large group tries to join the rest of their party up ahead. One person is different, but more than one or 2 can just wait at the end of the line and enjoy the ride together.

 

[VAN]

I've unintentionally been guilty of line cutting. Sometimes, DH walks a little too quickly to a line and I'm not quite there yet with whatever kid I'm towing. He's not running or anything like that, but he's doesn't notice that we aren't directly behind him. Occasionally, another family will be *right* behind him and I can't get to him and our other child without charging ahead.

I wouldn't do that ... if you DH wants to ride with his family, he will need to learn to wait for all of you at the entrance. If it were me, I'd just get in line with the kids and would NOT ask to advance through the line. Let your DH come back to you or wait at the ride for you to get to the front.

 

[Lisa x]

Line Cutting:

Just respect others and be reasonable! If you know your party is split, stand aside at the beginning of the ride and wait for them, let others pass you!

If you are already in line and need to use the bathroom (I dont care how old you are, emergencies happen to us all) then by all means, leave the line and cut back in to meet your family, I have no problem with that at all!

People really need to chill out and concentrate on having fun instead of looking out for things to complain about! You are in WDW, a place where you can forget about the normal stresses and strains of everyday life, dont create more when you get there!

Table Seating:

When I walk into that restaurant and one of us lines up to purchase our food, then we are paying customers and entitled to sit somewhere. My DH can queue and get the meal while I get the condiments and straws etc and find us a place to sit!

I do not want to eat cold food thank you especially when I have just paid over the odds for it! If I have spare seats, which I often do as usually there is just 2 of us, then anyone is more than welcome to either take the seats or join our table! We deliberately sit right next to eachother on one side of the table so that people can see half of our table is free!

P.S. I am a brit too - I dont find this rude, like some others have said, its common sense! A lot of restaurants in the UK, you find a table, sit there and then order your food and hand in your table number, it works well, you have somewhere to sit and eat as soon as you get your hot food!

 

[Love Tink]

Something else to add to the whole table debate: How many of you, if you have extra chairs at your table, are willing to share your space with other guests? My dad and I have done that before when they only table that was available was a large one. We were eating when my dad noticed a couple of women with trays who couldn't find a place to sit. He invited them to share our table, and we all had an enjoyable meal chatting about our trips.

I would absolutely share our table if the place was packed - although I think most people would take a look at my three boys and say, "Thanks, but no thanks."

I shake my head every time I see people getting strident on here about not taking a table while you wait for one person to order the food. It's just completely silly. It takes a while to set up a table for a family - napkins, condiments, etc. Better to do that while the food is being ordered, and multi-task as a family.

The busiest place in the CS restaurants is always the ordering area. it's a madhouse of lines and people. Is it really a bright idea to add four times as many people to that space? Or is it better to get the kids out of there and let them sit down for ten minutes? (What do you do when you go to McDonalds? Do you stand to the side there? We don't, we sit down while my husband orders the food.)

As for those who say it isn't fair if they are traveling alone and don't have anyone to hold a space for them - well, there are a lot of advantages to touring alone: single rider lines, easier to squeeze into a spot for parades, fewer bathroom breaks, only one person to please. You get some advantages...you get some disadvantages.

 

[k^2]

I wouldn't do that ... if you DH wants to ride with his family, he will need to learn to wait for all of you at the entrance. If it were me, I'd just get in line with the kids and would NOT ask to advance through the line. Let your DH come back to you or wait at the ride for you to get to the front.

Agreed. If it's only one family, just ask him to come back to you. Everyone wins and tell him to SLOW DOWN next time!

 

[Lisa x]

Even during busy times, we've never seen someone not be able to find a seat.
And, thanks, but if DH is getting the food, we are using the table. We are patrons of the restaurant. As someone mentioned earlier, we've already gotten condiments, straws, napkins, etc. The food will be there momentarily. I don't see a problem, and unless a CM says something, I'm not moving. If we have an extra seat, you're more than welcome to join us. There are no posted signs in regards to when you can and cannot sit down.

Something else to add to the whole table debate: How many of you, if you have extra chairs at your table, are willing to share your space with other guests? My dad and I have done that before when they only table that was available was a large one. We were eating when my dad noticed a couple of women with trays who couldn't find a place to sit. He invited them to share our table, and we all had an enjoyable meal chatting about our trips.

What? Being civil, helpful and friendly at WDW? What wrong with you? You were there first...no tables available is their problem completely. Socializing even? You would let them invade your space like that? What are you trying to do, have a good time or something? Trying to learn something new about other people? Sharing your experiences with others and letting them share with you? That is so twisted!

Wouldn't it be nice if more people were like your Dad. Life would be a fun experience wouldn't it?

If we have extra spots at our table and there are no tables available, we always offer seats to folks who are looking. It's fun to get to know someone else and it helps spread the magic.

I would absolutely share our table if the place was packed - although I think most people would take a look at my three boys and say, "Thanks, but no thanks."

I shake my head every time I see people getting strident on here about not taking a table while you wait for one person to order the food. It's just completely silly. It takes a while to set up a table for a family - napkins, condiments, etc. Better to do that while the food is being ordered, and multi-task as a family.

The busiest place in the CS restaurants is always the ordering area. it's a madhouse of lines and people. Is it really a bright idea to add four times as many people to that space? Or is it better to get the kids out of there and let them sit down for ten minutes? (What do you do when you go to McDonalds? Do you stand to the side there? We don't, we sit down while my husband orders the food.)

As for those who say it isn't fair if they are traveling alone and don't have anyone to hold a space for them - well, there are a lot of advantages to touring alone: single rider lines, easier to squeeze into a spot for parades, fewer bathroom breaks, only one person to please. You get some advantages...you get some disadvantages.

Absolutely

 

[KSDisneyDad]

As you know at the bus stops you are suppoed to board through the front doors of the bus, unless you are part of a wheelchair/ECV party. Once at POP there was alot of people waiting for the buses. My husband and I were there waiting at the handicapped entrance with my mom who was in an ECV. We had already sat through one bus, due to there being two wheelchairs already there when we arrived. Anyway, our bus started to pull up and this young lady came running up, just as the driver started to open that back door and lower the ramp for us. She took one look at the long line, realized she wasn't going to be able to fit on the bus, so jumped in behind us trying to get in the back door. The driver looked at her and told her to go to the back of the line. She smiled sweetly, then blantely lied and said she was with us. I looked at her and said, "Pardon me, no you aren't. We don't even know you." That sweet innocent look on her face quickly disappered and she called me a b-tch. Excuse me, she lied, tried to jump line, then lied to a bus driver and tried to say she was part of a handicapped party, then had the nerve to call me a b-tch?

Wow! I love how people will try to make those who follow rules the "bad guy". How dare you not lie for her!?

I've seen this happen before too at DTD where there is no official "queue" for the buses back to the resorts. If the back door is open, people jump right in to get a spot. On our August 2009 trip (the last time we will ever rely upon buses exclusively!), we were at DTD one evening and the crowd for the buses returning to the resort was huge. When the bus arrived, the driver loaded someone in a wheelchair and told everyone to wait. He kept warning people he would be closing the door even though people were trying to pile on. As a group of people jumped on the bus as he closed the door, one "lady's" package got smashed in the door as he was closing them and she had to exit the bus to retrieve her bag. Those of us waiting to enter the front door got a good laugh out of it.

 

[KSDisneyDad]

I witnessed line cutting more in the lines to meet characters than the lines for the actual rides. I understand your 3 year old is excited and wants to get a closer look, however, if you are behind me in line, if your 3 year old pushes ahead of me, it doesn't mean you get to too!!!

That was our experience as well. It seems that when some families see a character, they must have blinders on to the fact that there is a long queue lined up to see that character?! And little kids are notorious line cutters as they haven't learned yet. That's why parents should teach them proper etiquette IMO.

This is a relief to me - I really can't understand why people sitting with no food don't feel guilty when they see people standing up eating. It is especially difficult for anyone touring alone. To me, if there are not enough tables, then you should only be using them when you really need it - more than that is a bit selfish in my book.

How does one judge need though? If we see a family standing and waiting for a spot, we will get up if we are close to being done. And we too have shared a table with others - especially at Earl of Sandwich where it is sometimes hard to find a table for our family of 5. However, I would never expect someone to give up their table early for us. Who says that they don't need the table to allow a child to catch a second wind or get some needed time off their feet? Or there could be a myriad of other reasons why someone is still sitting at a table even if it appears that they are done eating.


I can somewhat relate to your comment about others being selfish as I used to think the same way about people who will not give up seats on the bus to a Mom or Dad holding a sleeping child. However, that is such a heated topic that I just finally relegated myself to the fact that people will not give up their seats. We solved the problem by avoiding Disney transportation and renting a car. I don't see any difference between that and someone sitting at a table. How can you judge that family if you don't know anything about them? Travelling alone can be difficult as you don't have another person who can get you a table while you're waiting in line, but I would think that there is space somewhere when our family of 5 rarely has trouble finding a table at WDW and we have travelled the last several years in summer or Spring Break. There have been a couple of times (mostly at Epcot) where getting a table was hard and we just carried our trays to another nearby restaurant or bench, or we simply waited for a table. I've never found this to be as big an issue as it appears to be on this thread.

 

[Fanboy]

I wouldn't do that ... if you DH wants to ride with his family, he will need to learn to wait for all of you at the entrance. If it were me, I'd just get in line with the kids and would NOT ask to advance through the line. Let your DH come back to you or wait at the ride for you to get to the front.

Oh, I can't wait for the numerous angry DIS threads about reverse line cutters.

 

[focusondisney]

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[carly3592]

 

[Maggie'sMom]

Table Seating:

When I walk into that restaurant and one of us lines up to purchase our food, then we are paying customers and entitled to sit somewhere. My DH can queue and get the meal while I get the condiments and straws etc and find us a place to sit!

I do not want to eat cold food thank you especially when I have just paid over the odds for it! If I have spare seats, which I often do as usually there is just 2 of us, then anyone is more than welcome to either take the seats or join our table! We deliberately sit right next to eachother on one side of the table so that people can see half of our table is free!

P.S. I am a brit too - I dont find this rude, like some others have said, its common sense! A lot of restaurants in the UK, you find a table, sit there and then order your food and hand in your table number, it works well, you have somewhere to sit and eat as soon as you get your hot food!

I don't want to eat cold food either, but as a single parent traveling with a young child, I didn't have the luxury of someone to go grab a table and get condiments, straws, etc. while I order. And it's not fun negotiating a packed seating area with a tray full of food in one hand and a small child holding the other. There have been plenty of times when I started toward a table that is being vacated, only to have a family that doesn't have their food yet swoop in to take it. I can't possibly move as fast with a tray and a small child as someone who has neither. It's getting easier now that my DD is older, but this was a real problem for me when she was 3yo. I'm glad you would allow someone to share your table, but most people would feel they are being intrusive to ask.

As for those who say it isn't fair if they are traveling alone and don't have anyone to hold a space for them - well, there are a lot of advantages to touring alone: single rider lines, easier to squeeze into a spot for parades, fewer bathroom breaks, only one person to please. You get some advantages...you get some disadvantages.

Well, I travel alone with a child. So I have neither advantage. I can't use the single rider lines. I have to take as many or more bathroom breaks as a family with older children, and I have to please a young child with special needs. And before someone mentions the GAC as an advantage, I will say I have never used one.

 

[Wadecool]

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