Line Cutting

[Stitches]

I had not experienced line cutting at Disney in the past. But on this past visit, I encountered a lot of it. Have others noticed this too?

The main experience we had was seeing people step past us or step under ropes ahead of us to join others. We also had multiple sets of teenage girls step past us (at separate times) saying they were looking for their mom. In one case, I was resting my hand on one of the bars that separates lines and a guy lifted my arm so he could push through!

This was so frustrating.......

 

[Jerseyguy's Wife]

We had a lot of this on our last trip. It happened twice on TSM. The first time, there was a woman and her 2 children standing at a corner of the line, sobbing. I felt a bit bad for them...until they pushed us aside and nastily told us that they were in front of us. Well, my take on that is: yes, you WERE in front of us. Then you made the decision to stand in that corner and let half the line pass. I wouldn't have been so annoyed if the mom had been less nasty about it. The three of them then continued sobbing through the rest of the line. Really. To the point where everyone in the line was staring at them. I kept thinking, "if you are that upset, go calm down somewhere. Is a ride on TSM really worth all this?" The kids were still crying when they got off. It was odd.
The second time in the TSM line, this man is walking through with his young (think 7-8 y/o) son. He gets to us and, instead of asking my sister to let them pass, he knocks her and my 4 y/o into the side barrier/bar thing! My sister asked him what he thought he was doing and he just yelled at her that his wife was up there. Um, excuse me? I don't care if the building is on fire; there is no excuse for that kind of behavior. I figure he was probably the same jerk who knocked the 4y/o down and stepped on his hand at DHS a couple days later (okay, probably not, but still ). Who does that kind of thing?!?
The last trip was, by far, the worst one we've ever had for this kind of behavior. I was shocked, really. I had seen people post on the DIS about this kind of stuff, but I openly admit I was totally surprised to have it happen!

 

[Noel22]

On my last trip to DLP I saw a group of line cutters in front of me. Their bahaviour was unbelievable! They pushed other people, yelled around and pushed again. They jumped over ropes and were just rude, it was terrible.
At WDW (2010 trip) I saw a few young people line cutting line at Splash Mountain. But the line was like 120min, so I did not care about 5 people more ahead of me

 

[CurlyJo224]

It really is getting to the point where Disney needs to do something about it. People know that they won't, so they can do whatever. Time to crack down. Sure the line cutters bought their tickets, but so did everyone else in line that didn't break the rules.

 

[Jedi]

disney just has to put signs up saying that anyone cutting will be removed without refund...

 

[katdralion]

I don't have a problem with people rejoining their family if they have already been in the line and had to leave for whatever reason. I don't consider that line cutting. I have never come across any real line cutting in WDW.
But DLP is another matter.... lots of young people who just didn't want to wait pushed their way to the front or jumped over barriers to get there, very rude!

 

[ccudmore]

I'll be the dissenting voice and say that I don't have a problem with someone catching up with someone in line. I've never done it but if someone does it I gladly let them through. It has such a negligible impact on my day and hopefully allows someone to ride with someone they care about - it's not worth worrying about.

 

[katdralion]

I'll be the dissenting voice and say that I don't have a problem with someone catching up with someone in line. I've never done it but if someone does it I gladly let them through. It has such a negligible impact on my day and hopefully allows someone to ride with someone they care about - it's not worth worrying about.

 

[Poohrulz]

I'll be the dissenting voice and say that I don't have a problem with someone catching up with someone in line. I've never done it but if someone does it I gladly let them through. It has such a negligible impact on my day and hopefully allows someone to ride with someone they care about - it's not worth worrying about.

So when kids are knocked down and people are yelled at...you're good with that? I don't have a problem with a parent/child meeting up with another parent/child if they had to leave the line, but don't put your hands on me to raise my arm and you definitely do not want to touch my child, especially to push him out of the way.

 

[Lyndria]

disney just has to put signs up saying that anyone cutting will be removed without refund...

and have the you know what to enforce it...

 

[fan1080]

Disney will remove line cutters, I've witnessed it.

However, enforcement of such requires a CM who doesn't mind confrontation.

Problem is, it usually ends up creating a scene, which can be awkward for bystanders too. The incident I witnessed involved 3 teenagers. They were reported by another lady in line quite a ways behind them. She spotted the trio jump the ropes to catch up with some other friends, who happened to be right in front of my family and I. The exchange between them was rather unpleasant, so she went to get a CM. The poor young lady CM then had to deal with some rather unpleasant comments from the trio too. The 3 of them decided that they were not going to get out of line. I finally had enough and calmly mentioned that it was in their best interest to leave the line before the CM called security, which could lead to not only being removed from the line, but being tossed out of the park. Once they realized their actions could lead to them being escorted to the gate, they decided to move on. On their departure, the rest of the folks in line cheered/clapped. They left with the same attitude and rudeness they displayed while in discussions with the CM and lady who reported them.

So, yes, Disney will do the right thing, but I suspect it will take a CM with the right attitude.

 

[Wadecool]

If someone wants to go into Spiderman mode and dangle off the rafters, crawl on their hands and knees under the railings, or whatever else to go around us in the queue, then by all means they are welcome to have at it. But, to just come barrelling through, pushing past where I'm standing, hehe, they simply shall not pass. Now, if the line cutter puts a hand on DW or DD, then at that point all bets are off. The only caveat to this would be if it is an adult with a very small child who is obviously returning from a potty break, they can go by, no problem.

 

[nala1128]

When the kids were younger, I would get on line with them and my DS would park the stroller and catch up to us is line. I think that is fair and OK.

However as for the blatant, disrespectful line cutters, if nobody says anything of course they will continue to do it. Everyone in line stands there with that "someone else will do something" mentality. Just like when there is an accident or crime, people gather and watch and all think Oh I dont have to do anything,... someone else will. It is also the same situation in school when kids get bullied. Everyone watches and nobody speaks up... If one bystander would... then most likely another one would too, and so on.

I am not saying that anyone should start a brawl on a line at Disney, but if you see something that is not right, it is your responsibility to say something. If you are complacent it will continue to happen. Even if you don't confront the line cutters... alert a CM who will now have to do their job and address it!

 

[NurseJes]

I think I'm in the group of 'it depends on the situation'. If it's someONE, as in one person who is catching up to a party, ok. Even a parent with a child is ok. When we were there in January, a FAMILY of 7 did the whole I'm catching up to my party...who had literally just ducked under the bar in front of my and DH. I confronted the man and refused the others to pass me. The man became angry, all but screaming at me and the group physically pushed past me. I am not one for a physical confrontation, although DH was livid. We found the next CM we saw and he asked a couple parties ahead of the cutters if we were, in fact, behind them. Of course they said yes. The CM didn't remove them, as we were already loading, but made sure that they went AFTER us. He also gave us 2 FPs (it was only two of us), but since we were leaving the park after that, we were able to give them to a dad and his son as we were on our way out of the park. That was the best outcome of a bad situation as TSM was 90+ minute wait and FPs were long gone for the day (it was like 6pm). I didn't notice/have any other problems with it the entire time we were there.

 

[ccudmore]

So when kids are knocked down and people are yelled at...you're good with that? I don't have a problem with a parent/child meeting up with another parent/child if they had to leave the line, but don't put your hands on me to raise my arm and you definitely do not want to touch my child, especially to push him out of the way.

This is why I never like these line cutting threads. People start putting words in other people's mouths to make their point. I said I'd gladly let someone through - never made any mention of people getting knocked down and pushing and yelling. Clearly these are not acceptable things but they have nothing to do with people getting through a line. I politely let someone through. They only time anything ever gets made of it is if someone decides to make an issue of it.

 

[YodaGirl]

I'll be the dissenting voice and say that I don't have a problem with someone catching up with someone in line. I've never done it but if someone does it I gladly let them through. It has such a negligible impact on my day and hopefully allows someone to ride with someone they care about - it's not worth worrying about.

So when kids are knocked down and people are yelled at...you're good with that? I don't have a problem with a parent/child meeting up with another parent/child if they had to leave the line, but don't put your hands on me to raise my arm and you definitely do not want to touch my child, especially to push him out of the way.

Seriously? Come on. You and I both know that it's not necessary to shove people in order to catch up with his/her family. No one is advocating people being shoved down, which I'm sure you're well aware of.

This is why I never like these line cutting threads. People start putting words in other people's mouths to make their point.

Indeed.

DIS was so quiet there for a couple of days. Then all of a sudden, we had mug, stroller, and now line cutter threads all in one day. We just need a FP thread, and we'd be all set!

 

[The Rovang Gang]

Not accounting for rudeness and unacceptable behavior, we're advised to send one parent to be the FP runner and have the other parent get in line with the kids. Is it acceptable for the FP runner to catch up with his/her family? My very large husband would die if someone confronted him for "line-cutting." We may need to switch roles.

 

[YodaGirl]

Not accounting for rudeness and unacceptable behavior, we're advised to send one parent to be the FP runner and have the other parent get in line with the kids. Is it acceptable for the FP runner to catch up with his/her family? My very large husband would die if someone confronted him for "line-cutting." We may need to switch roles.

I wouldn't care.

The majority (or at least very loud minority) of the DIS would say that is cutting and that you should wait at the entrance for the runner and then get in line as a group.

 

[Lyndria]

Not accounting for rudeness and unacceptable behavior, we're advised to send one parent to be the FP runner and have the other parent get in line with the kids. Is it acceptable for the FP runner to catch up with his/her family? My very large husband would die if someone confronted him for "line-cutting." We may need to switch roles.

Per disboard etiquette, you should wait and let others pass you in line until your runner gets there.

 

[dfmalone]

Trust me its not the first NOR the last time you will see it. When we went in 08 we were waiting in line for Star Tours at HS. This guy was standing in front of my father and kept looking back behind us. He actually started to irritate my dad. Then all of a sudden he starts yelling calling is family over but he's waving them over right over my fathers head (My dad is short) to the point where mt dad had to move (Knowing my dad Im surprised he didnt tell the guy anything) needless to say my dad was not happy to make matters worst, he had 12 people jump in front of us, , three of which could not get on the ride. I guess Disney save the guy from getting fussed out by my dad