line cheaters at Princess Fairytale hall

[BudgieMama]

I found myself in lines where I was pushed past anyywhere in WDW- Character Meets (particularly when I was on my own), rides, shows, buses, food, etc... the difficulty is, particularly in a long line, to know whether there is someone waiting ahead for them, or just chancing their luck that no-one will stop them... It bugs me, but maybe because it's something I was brought up not to do, and as a Brit, saying something to someone goes against my nature. I don't do confrontation!

Personally, I would like to see a "whole party" rule, but with something given to parents exiting with children needing the toilet, a nappy change, etc, to allow them to re-enter the line. I think they need to find the right balance.

 

[mirak]

On our last visit, we were in line to see Merida. My DD was playing with another little girl while me & DH stayed in line. We chatted with the other parents. No one seemed to mind the kids playing quietly on the side. Our wait in line was pleasant and there was no melt downs.

Exactly. The folks comparing this to real line cutting need to chill out. It's much ado about nothing. Disney is all about making accomodations for the little ones. This militant "if you've not old enough to stand in line for an hour, you're not old enough for the attraction" nonsense is just that - nonsense. Use some common sense people, and above all, don't get so bent out of shape over little things!

 

[SabbyR]

Maybe its because Im Canadian Im always looking for a peaceful resolution!

Tried to quote Budgies post here!

 

[cakebaker]

This strikes me as a pretty crappy way of thinking.

Not sure why- Why would I get upset and take action over something that isn't costing anybody anything or at least not enough that it's worth getting worked up over? Don't sweat the small stuff is pretty much what I'm saying, but you're free to take it any way you want.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

Am I the only one wondering why so many people keep saying "on line"?? It is IN line, not ON line.

Okay...just had to get that out there. Continue on with your bickering. Lol

Different places say ON line instead of in line. Yes, it is in line to me, too.

I use them interchangeably. (Native NYer who lived in the South for a while and now is back up North).

I had no idea that people used "on line" in the same way that I use "in line". To me, on line is what I currently am - online as in on the internet. If I get off line, I'm no longer on the internet. Now I can be in line while on line if I am currently waiting for tech support to help me out and they are dealing with people who logged on before me and I can be in line while off line if I am standing in line for Splash Mountain and not surfing the web. Never really knew "on line" was a thing when referring to waiting your turn. Learn something new everyday.



Hey Gracie, my husband is 6'8". I completely get your annoyance at people who don't like him standing next to his daughter for parades and such. I'm 5'2" so if he stands in the back so others can see, I won't be able to see. If he stands in the front with me, he will block people's views. We pretty much have given up on parades and such. Unfortunately, our daughter (age 4) has asked to see Main Street Electrical Parade this trip. Hopefully we can find a front row spot and just stay seated to try and keep everyone happy.

 

[Gracie09]

Why would anyone have to physically move anyone? A simple excuse me as you slide by is all that is necessary. I honestly can't recall a line that didn't have ample room for that. When we went last we had 13 in our party. Often the little ones would move up to be by me or my older dd and then back to their parents. It didn't require any moving on our part they just moved front and back in the open space which was plenty. Why are the people who are bringing in a child elbowing there way through in a wildly obnoxious way? I never witnessed this once. I think people like to exaggerate to make it seem like the people who are rejoining their family are uncouth animals, but in reality they are just parents who are trying to make the best of a bad situation. Waiting for hours to see their favorite characters is tough. I don't think it should be a if you can't wait in a 4 hour line without having to use the bathroom than you don't get to see the character situation. Are people really that cold? Yes, when people are taking advantage and have 15 teenagers busting through a line we all agree that is rude. I don't think anyone is arguing that is OK. Do we really need to throw out tons of examples that aren't anywhere near what the OP mentioned asking where do we draw the line? I think exceptions often need to be made and obviously cm's agree from time to time. I think comparing this to swimming in a fountain or jumping on mickey's back is stupid. It isn't even the same ballpark. Unless you follow every.single.rule. to the letter you have no right to chastise the awful line jumpers. We all bend the rules from time to time and I call BS to anyone who says otherwise.

So its ok to push past someone as long as you say excuse me? See I was taught you say excuse me and then wait for the person to move or otherwise acknowledge you. Some lines have room, but others do not especially if you are waiting with you family.

 

[kittyab]

Maybe its because Im Canadian Im always looking for a peaceful resolution!

Tried to quote Budgies post here!

Alberta here!

 

[IrishNYC]

http://6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/is-it-on-line-or-in-line/

I believe the PP is from New York.

Bingo! It's a very NY thing to say "on line."

 

[SabbyR]

Alberta here!

Saskatchewan and a blizzard here today!

 

[cakebaker]

So its ok to push past someone as long as you say excuse me? See I was taught you say excuse me and then wait for the person to move or otherwise acknowledge you. Some lines have room, but others do not especially if you are waiting with you family.

A guy that is 6'7" and 230 lbs may be tall, but he isn't wide. He'd have to intentionally try and physically block someone, especially a small child, to actually prevent them from passing him in line. It isn't a question of him just refusing to move. As I said, tough on the internet is not tough in real life. That kind of behavior wouldn't go over well in a line full of parents of young children who understand that little children need to pee and sometimes they don't choose to do it at the most convenient moment- even if you make them push out the pee, hold it or withhold fluids from them so they won't need to go.

I cannot believe this ...seriously, it's a character meet n greet. Let toddlers go pee and get back in line.

Am I ever glad I only have a grandson. These princess meets are vicious! LOL

 

[IrishNYC]

I use them interchangeably. (Native NYer who lived in the South for a while and now is back up North).

I knew from your posts you were my kind of people.

 

[Gracie09]

A guy that is 6'7" and 230 lbs may be tall, but he isn't wide. He'd have to intentionally try and physically block someone, especially a small child, to actually prevent them from passing him in line. It isn't a question of him just refusing to move. As I said, tough on the internet is not tough in real life. That kind of behavior wouldn't go over well in a line full of parents of young children who understand that little children need to pee and sometimes they don't choose to do it at the most convenient moment- even if you make them push out the pee, hold it or withhold fluids from them so they won't need to go.

I cannot believe this ...seriously, it's a character meet n greet. Let toddlers go pee and get back in line.

Am I ever glad I only have a grandson. These princess meets are vicious! LOL

but its not just kids that have to pee is it. Its people who think its not rude to send someone ahead to hold a place in line and then bring their entire family through. Kids needing to pee, I would probably shrug and go on with my day. But why is it right for everyone else to wait in (or on) line but your (the general you) time is more valuable so you shouldn't have to. If its a medical issue there is a program for that and the disabilities board has a wealth of information about it, but usually its not. Its just people thinking they too important to wait in the line.

 

[mjkacmom]

I had no idea that people used "on line" in the same way that I use "in line". To me, on line is what I currently am - online as in on the internet. If I get off line, I'm no longer on the internet.

People in this area have been saying "on line" before there was an internet! As a matter of fact, I've found that it's said a lot less, now that "online" means something different. Back in the day, I'd say "get on line" more than "get in line".

 

[nugov2]

So its ok to push past someone as long as you say excuse me? See I was taught you say excuse me and then wait for the person to move or otherwise acknowledge you. Some lines have room, but others do not especially if you are waiting with you family.

Again, I know it serves your argument to have the person coming by as a "pusher" or aggressive person. I highly doubt that is the case most of the time and probably only results from a person being just as wrong by blocking someone. Who said the person wouldn't wait. I think they would. Now if you refuse to move you are just as much to blame for causing an issue. I don't think WDW allows guests to enforce their rules so I'd assume you too are violating policy and just as wrong from the companies perspective. Your job is to report a violation not step in to play enforcer of what may or may not be a violation. That is what the CM's are there for. Of course you better not get out of line to report it unless you intend to get in the back of the line once you are finished.

 

[nugov2]

but its not just kids that have to pee is it. Its people who think its not rude to send someone ahead to hold a place in line and then bring their entire family through. Kids needing to pee, I would probably shrug and go on with my day. But why is it right for everyone else to wait in (or on) line but your (the general you) time is more valuable so you shouldn't have to. If its a medical issue there is a program for that and the disabilities board has a wealth of information about it, but usually its not. Its just people thinking they too important to wait in the line.

You have no idea if they had to use the bathroom or not. Do you bring a questionnaire with to have them fill out before they pass? Is your DH the gatekeeper? Does he offer them a riddle to solve and if correct they can pass and if they do not answer correctly they cannot pass?? Even if a dh gets in line without them maybe the child had an emergency just as they were getting there. I don't think it is a big deal to get in line and have someone join them a little later, but I don't get off on playing the tough guy while on vacation or anywhere for that matter. I'm a live and let live an again, unless you have never bent a rule to benefit you, you have no right to talk. Everyone one does it and I don't believe anyone who say otherwise. Even a simple 2 miles over the speed limit is a violation of a rule.

 

[JoshuaShaw]

You have no idea if they had to use the bathroom or not. Do you bring a questionnaire with to have them fill out before they pass?

Funny you should ask...

You wouldn't believe how often this baby has come in handy.

 

[nugov2]

Funny you should ask...
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You wouldn't believe how often this baby has come in handy.

 

[cakebaker]

We were line cutters once -

My grandson became nauseous at lunch while we were in the parks. Anyone who has kids knows that look a child gets on his face right before.......Rushed him to the bathroom only to see that the line to the ladies room was really long- so, we started passing by people without politely asking and just saying- sick kid, he's going to vomit any second now-

They parted like the seas, couldn't let us get by fast enough.

So yeah, count us in as some of the evil line cutters- and people were grateful that we did!

There- I feel better now.

Ok, ok...I admit everything- After his episode, my daughter and I used the bathroom as well. We didn't go get back in line. I'm a bad person, a very, very bad person.

 

[smitch425]

Again, I know it serves your argument to have the person coming by as a "pusher" or aggressive person. I highly doubt that is the case most of the time and probably only results from a person being just as wrong by blocking someone. Who said the person wouldn't wait. I think they would. Now if you refuse to move you are just as much to blame for causing an issue. I don't think WDW allows guests to enforce their rules so I'd assume you too are violating policy and just as wrong from the companies perspective. Your job is to report a violation not step in to play enforcer of what may or may not be a violation. That is what the CM's are there for. Of course you better not get out of line to report it unless you intend to get in the back of the line once you are finished.

To be fair, the OP of the thread described the mother and children "pushing" their way through the line, so that is part of the main topic in this thread.

 

[Gracie09]

You have no idea if they had to use the bathroom or not. Do you bring a questionnaire with to have them fill out before they pass? Is your DH the gatekeeper? Does he offer them a riddle to solve and if correct they can pass and if they do not answer correctly they cannot pass?? Even if a dh gets in line without them maybe the child had an emergency just as they were getting there. I don't think it is a big deal to get in line and have someone join them a little later, but I don't get off on playing the tough guy while on vacation or anywhere for that matter. I'm a live and let live an again, unless you have never bent a rule to benefit you, you have no right to talk. Everyone one does it and I don't believe anyone who say otherwise. Even a simple 2 miles over the speed limit is a violation of a rule.

Then why can't the Dh just wait and help tend with the emergency or simply wait for his group. Everyone is talking about the kids that "can't" wait in line and why not have them wait somewhere more fun, easier for them (or the parent) etc etc etc what about the hundreds of kids on the line who are waiting the best they can. Why is their feelings or whatever less important than the kids whose parents decide they shouldn't have to wait on line. Try explaining to a five year old why they have to wait in line but a dozen or so kids can just jump ahead. They would call it cutting and wonder why its allowed. If everyone sent a parent into the line and then had their group meet them, there would be ciaos. Its goes back to why have lines at all. Everyone just push ahead until you get where you want to go. Who cares about about rules or social contracts. Its dog eat dog.