line cheaters at Princess Fairytale hall

[Rebekkap]

I guess it is only because he is not the police that you would consider resorting to violence. Your desire to cut in front of other families is not a medical emergency. You have no legal or moral right to use physical force just because somebody is not cooperating with your violation of park rules.

Could you please point me to where this is outlined in the park rules?

 

[Gracie09]

Could you please point me to where this is outlined in the park rules?

Well there are no written rules against jumping on mickeys back for a piggy back ride or swimming in the fountains of Epcot but doing so would not be a good idea.

Why is it rude if someone is pushing past you to simply say I'm sorry but no you can't push past me. We and the rest of the people have been waiting on line. The lines as designed to make pushing ahead difficult. Many times you are told at the entrance to have your whole group together before entering.
The whole kid having to use the bathroom is an extreme just like the 30 members of a tour group pushing to the front but why is it ok for a family of four or five to push ahead. Why is their time more valuable than everyone else's? The Anna and else is Norway was an extreme situation. But it is no longer 6 hour waits. There are fp available. If your family decides to wait several hours to meet a character that is your choice. There are consequences of choices.

 

[Gracie09]

I dont care how tall or heavy he is....stop acting like the moral authority of WDW....what you see as wrong some other do not have a problem with..maybe you are the type that looks for issues where there are none

You're the one who said you would push past him. I simply said given his size that would be difficult unless he gave way.

 

[CinderElsa]

I dont care how tall or heavy he is....stop acting like the moral authority of WDW....what you see as wrong some other do not have a problem with..maybe you are the type that looks for issues where there are none

These (& other) forums often act as a form of wish fulfillment, IMO. "What I wish I could do" becomes "what I actually do." 6'7" 225 lb DH on the internet could, IRL, be 5'3" 120 lb DH who holds the woman's purse as she climbs over the barrier while the writer silently fumes. If anyone actually behaved that way to you in a park, all you'd need to do would be to see a CM & let them make the final call. However, I suspect that you will never encounter such a person, for various reasons...

 

[kaytieeldr]

I think this is logically accurate. If one person waits for one family unit and one round of pictures (family and a few individuals) it is fine. One person holding the line for multiple family units is not OK. If there are five families of 5 together (total 25 people) then 5 people should wait in line.



That is the attitude I have generally experienced, too. The ones doing this all see each other as compatriots in the same boat trying to work the same angles. It often breeds a sort of camaraderie that all will talk about.

So a party of five is acceptable, but a party of 25 is not? What about five parties of five? Where do you draw the line? How many parties get to send one person on ahead while the other four rally until it gets to be unacceptable?

Posters are reacting as if there's a single family involved. If that were true, this wouldn't be an issue - given that one party can't be holding spaces in all attraction lines at all times. The situation wouldn't even register as a blip.

 

[JanaDee]

I dont think Disney realized how popular those girls were going to be. Hence all the issues.

Line cutting was an issue long before Frozen.

 

[minniemous]

Well if you laid a hand on him, then a cm would have been found immediately. He is also 6'7" tall and 225, so not exactly easy to move out of your way

Well if you laid a hand on him, then a cm would have been found immediately. He is also 6'7" tall and 225, so not exactly easy to move out of your way

This is absolutely just as bad a someone trying to pass you on line. It is not impressive at all that DH is 6'7 all the more reason for restraint and not to use size as intimidation. My goodness if a mother is coming back from the bathroom with her child she has to contend with the line "bouncer" that is ridiculous. "None shall Pass!"

It is clear that No one...not one person as far as I can tell has said that line cutters/cheaters is Ok in all circumstances. However you have made it clear in your logic that you have made a decision to teach your children to control their bladder or not ride. It would seem you have mastered this task. Thus in your mind it would seem that you do not find it acceptable for other people to take kids to the bathroom and return. It was a gray area for you and your husband and you mentioned you will make that decision on the fly.

I needed to get to my husband and you and your husband were playing bouncer intimidating guests than that would be much more unacceptable then taking your child to a potty break. You are trying to tell be that in order to get back in line I would have to ask your husband to consider my situation and beg for pardon?

For example on the highway in traffic I can not stand it when cars are zipping by in the breakdown lane. Makes me angry. No way they are all having emergencies. But one person may be having an emergency and there is always the big trucks and SUVS deciding to block passage thinking "hey I have the size in my vehicle..try and pass". Well, there could very well be some one you are stopping from getting to medical attention. I have seen an SUV blocking the breakdown lane and way back sighted an ambulance trying to get down and because this good samaritan has decided to block traffic in this lane the ambulance was majorly delayed getting to a horrific accident. (As pointed out a bit off topic)

It is the same mentality. You are not a police officer...not elected to stick up for the rights of all the guests on line...it is not for you to decide if someone can pass after taking a child to the bathroom. Be a gentleman let the person pass and if it really bothers you can get CM and then explain and point it out to them. But you do not restrain them by not granting passage. But it is not impressive to push ones weight around at all....quite the opposite.

 

[larryz]

One dad, one family, one spot, one session = OK by me.

Any more than that seems like line jumping by the non-family guests.

 

[kaytieeldr]

For example on the highway in traffic I can not stand it when cars are zipping by in the breakdown lane. Makes me angry. No way they are all having emergencies. But one person may be having an emergency and there is always the big trucks and SUVS deciding to block passage thinking "hey I have the size in my vehicle..try and pass".

Getting back into - or more apropos of the topic, into - a theme park attraction queue is in no way comparable to a medical emergency.

Some of the scenarios and presumptions in this thread are extreme.

 

[minniemous]

Getting back into - or more apropos of the topic, into - a theme park attraction queue is in no way comparable to a medical emergency.

Some of the scenarios and presumptions in this thread are extreme.

I understand but I was just trying to use it is a means of pushing size as a means to not allow someone to pass. I know it was a bit off topic. I accept that.

 

[kaytieeldr]

One dad, one family, one spot, one session = OK by me.

Any more than that seems like line jumping by the non-family guests.

So, how many families are acceptable between when you enter the line and when you reach your goal (attraction, character, meal...)? Do you let one family meet up with their placeholder and then stop all others, telling them you reached your quota? Do you let two, five, eighteen families all get ahead of you to catch up with the placeholder?

Where does it end?

 

[Gracie09]

When that was written originally it was clear that Dh was wishing his size


.

That make absolutely no sense. Are you saying I edited something? Because that is untrue. If you are questioning the actual height of my husband it is simple to look at my previous posts where I have discussed such things as paying more for extra leg room seats on airplanes, finding pants that have a 40" in seam, people yelling at him for having the nerve to stand next to his daughter while watching a parade and telling him he should go to the back.

Its not playing bouncer. Its saying wait a minute, everyone else is waiting patiently, why is your time more valuable than everyone else that is in the line. Why bother having lines if everyone just pushes to the front anyway. People do it because no one says wait a minute that's not right.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I understand but I was just trying to use it is a means of pushing size as a means to not allow someone to pass. I know it was a bit off topic. I accept that.

Nah, it wasn't off topic at all. I was just specifying that you can't rejoin or get back into a line you'd were never in.

Reminds me - I need to shoot off some e-mails to the news directors here. News anchors were saying yesterday, "we now rejoin..." when they hadn't yet aired any of the show they'd interrupted.

 

[JanaDee]

Bottom line is line-cutters believe for whatever reason they and their time are more important than everyone else waiting. You can try and spin in however you want, but that is what it comes down to. You aren't more important and your time isn't more valuable than anyone else in that line.

 

[JoshuaShaw]

The amount of people who need Disney to specifically address every instance of undesirable behavior in their park rules is disheartening. We live in a, more or less, enlightened society. Written rules tend to pertain to things that aren't already inherent in a social contract. You don't have to agree with it, but that doesn't make it any less bad behavior.

 

[smitch425]

Honestly...accusing someone of lying about their husband's size is ridiculous. If people can't share a differing opinion respectfully, perhaps it shouldn't be shared.

 

[minniemous]

That make absolutely no sense. Are you saying I edited something? Because that is untrue. If you are questioning the actual height of my husband it is simple to look at my previous posts where I have discussed such things as paying more for extra leg room seats on airplanes, finding pants that have a 40" in seam, people yelling at him for having the nerve to stand next to his daughter while watching a parade and telling him he should go to the back.

Its not playing bouncer. Its saying wait a minute, everyone else is waiting patiently, why is your time more valuable than everyone else that is in the line. Why bother having lines if everyone just pushes to the front anyway. People do it because no one says wait a minute that's not right.

Sorry Gracie09 I do not know why that was put in there or where it came from? I was wondering myself what that was when I quoted a previous post. I just really did not like the reference to your husband's size and not letting people pass. I agree it sucks to have people passing when you are waiting patiently, but it does not happen often and going to the bathroom either adult or child is just a TOTALLY different scenario.

I whole heartedly agree that it is not Ok for people to get on line and hold spots for people. I also would not tell my husband to get on line and I will catch up...we would just enter together. But I really do not agree with self enforcement whether it means, physical force (not that your husband is doing that) or intimidation. It certainly seemed from your response that you were bringing up his size for that reason.

 

[SabbyR]

I need to go back and read but I dislike those posts a lot where people start throwing around their "big" spouses etc to intimidate people. If he's 6'7 and 225 he's a very tall man, but not a "large man" . Average size for his height. Does it bother me that some people cut lines? Sure. Does it bother me when people have to pee and leave a line? nope. If it was only one parent and a child and the child had to pee Id offer to hold their place in line even and hope my kids saw me do it. Im not teaching my kids to capitalize on others misfortune. I hope my husband and I are teaching our girls to be responsible for themselves and not worry what everyone else is doing. If its not dangerous or illegal its not their concern and if they are so concerned see a CM. Calling people garbage or sociopaths is a heck of a lot worse IMO. If my girls did that Id be embarrassed. Thankfully they been raised better!

 

[IrishNYC]

I really think Gracie meant that if someone is going to push past her husband to cut the line, they're going to have a hard time doing it because it's not like he's some petite little flower that can easily be pushed.

I said it before, and I'll say it again - if someone tries to get past me and my family waiting on line, they'll hear me tell them they're not cutting me, and I'll be calling a CM over to resolve it. If you want to see the princesses, get on line like everyone else.

 

[minniemous]

Honestly...accusing someone of lying about their husband's size is ridiculous. If people can't share a differing opinion respectfully, perhaps it shouldn't be shared.

I have no idea why that was there?? I did not write it. I apologize. Once I hit post I saw it and if you looked it was in between quotes from previous poster. I do not understand it. I did not know I could edit that out since it was part of the quote but I was able to remove it.

I did not write that at all. Not sure at all where is it came from.