Letting my 18 year old use my time share

[jodifla]

As an 18 year old freshman? Possible, but I doubt it, especially in the early 70's.

It was the late 70s, and that's exactly the way it happened. UF dorms could no longer handle all the freshmen, so they started letting them live off campus. It's still that way today.

Seriously, you are not connected to reality. Lots of 18 year olds are living on their own, working, married, for heaven's sake.

 

[Doctor P]

It was the late 70s, and that's exactly the way it happened. UF dorms could no longer handle all the freshmen, so they started letting them live off campus. It's still that way today.

Seriously, you are not connected to reality. Lots of 18 year olds are living on their own, working, married, for heaven's sake.

I'm not disconnected from reality at all. You are definitely correct about what you are saying. I was answering something very specific about going off to college. The claim was made that colleges don't have adult supervision or rules for students. Full-time freshman, at least traditionally aged, are generally NOT allowed to live off campus (except with a parent or guardian/adult relative) and there are responsible adults present typically in residence halls--that is all that I am saying. I am not making any other judgements or claiming any other facts.

 

[DizneyNutz]

I personally hesitate to relinquish our DVC Membership to anyone.

Our DD and DSL stayed our of DVC account had a good time, no problems. Older (25ish) and very responsible. Our DD (youngest) hinted at the same thing, we said no, that when she graduated college as the oldest DD did, we might consider it.

My fear, even when renting points to someone you "know" is that you may find out that you don't "know" them quite as well as you thought you did and end up in a pickle.

We rented points to a friend, didn't have a problem, but I had two, only TWO requests and they were that, one, be responsible and treat the resort like it was YOUR home, and two, don't add a credit card to your room key (read a post here about a person having a terrible time because a relative didn't settle the bill that was charged to the room before he left and consequently, the bill fell on the shoulders of the DVC Member!) which I guess is fair. After that, I have decided, NO MORE renting points and I would be EXTREMELY careful about "giving" points away---as someone suggested, tag along, in another room and out of sight.

Good luck, I feel for you.

 

[Mary Ellen]

To get back on track for the OP - Your solution is a good one.

There was a thread several years ago about VB. A father had rented (I'm not sure if it was someone’s points or cash - it has been a few years) a beach villa for his DD's high school graduation celebration. It was absolutely TRASHED. It had to be taken out of service for a while being repaired, repainted, new furniture...

I'm sure he thought (at one time) that his daughter and her friends were 'good kids'. Remembering my youth - the more kids involved and the futher from a 'parental unit', the more likely we found trouble - or it found us.

 

[Dean]

It was the late 70s, and that's exactly the way it happened. UF dorms could no longer handle all the freshmen, so they started letting them live off campus. It's still that way today.

Seriously, you are not connected to reality. Lots of 18 year olds are living on their own, working, married, for heaven's sake.

Few, if any, 18 y/o are grounded enough to make good choices consistently but some will do worse than others. Many parents have thought their kids and friends were mature enough only to find out too late they weren't. The fact that nothing happens that come to the parents attention is not the same as things going smoothly. No way I'd send a group of teens to a timeshare, or any similar situation, without some type of chaperone if I had any direct cost or risk related to the trip. Not to mention the personal safety risk which is fortunately, fare less at Disney than in some other choices but so are cruises and Aruba.

 

[Olaf]

There's actually a body of research that supports the believe that the teenage brain is a work in progress. That the frontal lobes don't reach full maturity until around age 25. I remember this quote from an article, "“You need to be your kid’s frontal lobe, because they don’t have one.”

Off topic a bit, but that's one of the reasons young people make such good soldiers--fearless.

 

[MrsG]

I look at it this way. It's MY timeshare and I set the rules. I would be along on the trip and book a 2 BR with room for a few friends. Ground rules are set and you don't even have to meet up with eachother if you don't want to. I have a 26 and 22 yr old and I am a high school teacher. It's not fair to lump all 18 yr olds together as irresponsible. But, I also like to err on the side of caution. I think this is a solution that would be acceptable to everyone. And if not, no timeshare. Period.

Good luck!

 

[Sammie]

That's interesting. I have never expereince that. There weren't any "true adults" (and by that I guess you mean old enough to be their parents? ? ?) in my dorm or any of the schools I visited. Maybe where you or your student went, but not in my experience. What school(s) were you refering to out of curiosity?

No adults at the schools I am familar with, especially large state universities. You have an RA and that is about it. Dorms are coed and you pretty much just come and go as you please, and there were no rules on visitations.

 

[Doctor P]

No adults at the schools I am familar with, especially large state universities. You have an RA and that is about it. Dorms are coed and you pretty much just come and go as you please, and there were no rules on visitations.

With due respect, you must not be familiar with many colleges and universities. I randomly selected the first university that came up when I Googled "residence halls". It happened to be the University of Texas at Austin. Here is a link to their residence life page: http://www.utexas.edu/student/housing/index.php?site=2&scode=0&id=248

You will see that there are at least THREE levels of adult supervision above the resident assistants, and two of those levels are present 24 hours per day and resident in the halls. In addition, if you click on policies you will find that the rules and regulations are quite numerous, specific, and enforced. Many, many schools are far more stringent and much more parental than this randomly chosen large state university. Obviously, with "kids" this age, you try to do things in as unobtrusive and overbearing a way as possible, but the suggestion that there is neither adult supervision and oversight nor rules and regulations is simply not borne out by the facts at most, if not all, residential colleges and universities.

 

[jodifla]

With due respect, you must not be familiar with many colleges and universities. I randomly selected the first university that came up when I Googled "residence halls". It happened to be the University of Texas at Austin. Here is a link to their residence life page: http://www.utexas.edu/student/housing/index.php?site=2&scode=0&id=248

You will see that there are at least THREE levels of adult supervision above the resident assistants, and two of those levels are present 24 hours per day and resident in the halls. In addition, if you click on policies you will find that the rules and regulations are quite numerous, specific, and enforced. Many, many schools are far more stringent and much more parental than this randomly chosen large state university. Obviously, with "kids" this age, you try to do things in as unobtrusive and overbearing a way as possible, but the suggestion that there is neither adult supervision and oversight nor rules and regulations is simply not borne out by the facts at most, if not all, residential colleges and universities.

I think you are the one who is out of touch. My DH and I had none of this at our different colleges in the 80s. One a private school, one a big public university. None of my friends, either.

 

[acpalmer]

I'm going to have to agree with Doctor P on this one, having worked with lots of colleges and universities the past few years as part of my job. There are plenty of adults around, even if the college kids don't realize they are there, they spend a lot of time in the background watching. And to say there are no rules at universities and colleges? Honestly, that's absurd. Any college or university worth it's salt has rules and regulations.

And maybe it's just me, but the last time I checked a calendar, it was not the 80s, but rather 2006--I would think it is likely that things just might have changed a bit in the last 20 years. That said, again, just because the college age kids don't see the adults or realize that they are there doesn't mean that they aren't.

 

[jodifla]

I'm going to have to agree with Doctor P on this one, having worked with lots of colleges and universities the past few years as part of my job. There are plenty of adults around, even if the college kids don't realize they are there, they spend a lot of time in the background watching. And to say there are no rules at universities and colleges? Honestly, that's absurd. Any college or university worth it's salt has rules and regulations.

And maybe it's just me, but the last time I checked a calendar, it was not the 80s, but rather 2006--I would think it is likely that things just might have changed a bit in the last 20 years. That said, again, just because the college age kids don't see the adults or realize that they are there doesn't mean that they aren't.

Looking up the rules, they don't seem all that restrictive to me. Looks like you are just supposed to respect your neighbors and not burn the place down.

You still can have guests, etc. Of course places are going to have "rules." But I don't see ANYTHING that prevents someone from being out all night, for example. Or having a boyfriend/girlfriend in their room. Or having to live on campus, for that matter. Lots of kids live off campus, where they are only bound by the rules of the apartment or parents or whatever.

I see nothing that stops kids from drinking, having sex, not studying, whatever.

 

[jodifla]

Gee, looks like things haven't changed much since the '80s at UF, Florida's largest university.

Not sure where you think all these "adults" are. We lived off campus, went to class, led our own lives, all from the age of 18.


From the UF web site:
Am I required to live on campus?
You may choose to live on campus or off campus. All freshmen beginning at the University during the summer terms must live on campus during the summer in order to be eligible for on campus housing for the Fall/Spring academic year.

 

[mitzelf3]

Hi, I found this thread interesting and just thought I would share my .02 as well. I think the idea of high school seniors going on spring break or a graduation trip with parents in the general vicinity is a smart idea. There is the issue of liability, plus I think that this is a good way for young people to test what it is like to be on their own, while still having mom and dad nearby in case of any problems.

For my senior year spring break, myself and two friends went on a cruise, and one set of parents went as well. We only saw them at dinner, but they were there when we needed them, and the fact that they were there definitely influenced their daughter's decision to forego alcohol on the trip. My husband (who was my boyfriend at the time) went with his friend's family to WDW. They had their own room, and basically only saw the rest of the family for dinner, but similarly it was good that they were there if anything had happened.

Also, on a related note, when my husband and I were in Italy studying abroad, a student on our trip was pushed off a local bus and broke her leg. We had professors to help with this situation, and it highlights for me that you never know what might happen, and it is good to have a mature adult around.

 

[Dean]

Gee, looks like things haven't changed much since the '80s at UF, Florida's largest university.

That would explain it.

 

[jodifla]

That would explain it.

Well, not sure about the slam, but my point was to respond to the poster who said things may not be the same as they were 20 years ago.

Most state universities are set up the same way....you don't have to live on campus anymore. Even those who want you to live on campus don't go beyond the freshman year.

 

[Dean]

Well, not sure about the slam, but my point was to respond to the poster who said things may not be the same as they were 20 years ago.

Most state universities are set up the same way....you don't have to live on campus anymore. Even those who want you to live on campus don't go beyond the freshman year.

LOL, just funning with ya. We live in Tallahassee, not FSU though.

 

[zurgswife]

I think I would much prefer my dd and friends to head to WDW for a week after graduation then other potential cities. Also, hadn't thought about making it a vacation for me as well...... I have a few more years to sort this one out.


OT- The college supervisory thing. I went to JMU over 20yrs ago. I stayed in resident halls and the sorority house. The oldest person that was in charge was a grad student usually no more then 25 but 80% of the RA's in the dorms were Jrs and Sr. I just went to there website today and could find anything about who the RA are but I can't imagine they changed too much. The sorority house only had the members no other supervisiory position.

 

[Sammie]

With due respect, you must not be familiar with many colleges and universities. I randomly selected the first university that came up when I Googled "residence halls". It happened to be the University of Texas at Austin. Here is a link to their residence life page: http://www.utexas.edu/student/housing/index.php?site=2&scode=0&id=248

You will see that there are at least THREE levels of adult supervision above the resident assistants, and two of those levels are present 24 hours per day and resident in the halls. In addition, if you click on policies you will find that the rules and regulations are quite numerous, specific, and enforced. Many, many schools are far more stringent and much more parental than this randomly chosen large state university. Obviously, with "kids" this age, you try to do things in as unobtrusive and overbearing a way as possible, but the suggestion that there is neither adult supervision and oversight nor rules and regulations is simply not borne out by the facts at most, if not all, residential colleges and universities.

With all due respect to you, the schools I am familar with do not have adult supervision in the actual dorms. Yes they have the same setup as Texas but these adults are not in the dorms 24/7. In your link I saw no mention of anyone living in the dorm except the RAs. Those that supervise the RAs might have an office in the dorm but most at are located at the Housing Office.

As to the rules I also did not see anything that restrictive. Sure there are rules but it's kinda like Disney, they are seldom enforced. They are on the websites, they are in the brochures and they are told to the parents at orientation, but later in the real world, its not that way. At least at the schools I know of.

I am sure there are some schools that are stricter than others but many are not.