Lay Off The Cleaning Lady Pete!!

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I have been feeling this way about the "cleaning lady" name, too. I completely respect Pete's venom about Crofton's running of WDW, but the way he says "cleaning lady" like it equates to "leper", just upsets me and makes me feel less respect fro the person using the term in that way.

Yes I totally agree. I don't care if Pete doesn't like her and wants to vent on his podcast, that's his right. I think he could handle it better and not put down a whole group of people who have nothing to do with her :)
 
Yes I totally agree. I don't care if Pete doesn't like her and wants to vent on his podcast, that's his right. I think he could handle it better and not put down a whole group of people who have nothing to do with her :)

Agreed. The term is being used in a manner to insinuate that she is in no way qualified to hold a high level job since she is just a "cleaning lady".

To me, if someone in her position had started as just a "cleaning lady", I would take it as a positive since it would show that she was able to work her way all the way up the chain and could relate to many different levels of employment.

As far as the job she and Disney has done, if you look at Disney's Earnings Reports over the last year and a half, they have done a very good job of keeping occupancy at the resorts and attendance at the parks steady, while many other vacation/leisure businesses have greatly suffered.
 
I thought I was a sheep?

That's funny. People post and call regular posters "sheep", then in their next post they say " Why are you offended? I didn't specifically call you out, this is just my opinion!" If you wouldn't say it face to face, you shouldn't type it. Everyone is bold and brave on the internet. :sad2:
 

Agreed. The term is being used in a manner to insinuate that she is in no way qualified to hold a high level job since she is just a "cleaning lady".

Even though I don't post very often and I absolutely love the podcast and the team, I must agree that hearing Pete use the term "cleaning lady" in the manner that he does is upsetting. Some of our grandmothers, mothers, daughters, wives, sisters and best friends are or have been "cleaning ladies" and hearing the term being used as he has been, hurts. It seems to convey that doing this type of work is somehow an indicator of your intelligence and that if you are someone employed in a low-wage, entry-level job, that must be all you're good for.

I think it is far better to respect the fact that the world needs all kinds of people to do all kinds of work and that anyone performing honest work whatever it is, deserves respect.
 
Even though I don't post very often and I absolutely love the podcast and the team, I must agree that hearing Pete use the term "cleaning lady" in the manner that he does is upsetting. Some of our grandmothers, mothers, daughters, wives, sisters and best friends are or have been "cleaning ladies" and hearing the term being used as he has been, hurts. It seems to convey that doing this type of work is somehow an indicator of your intelligence and that if you are someone employed in a low-wage, entry-level job, that must be all you're good for.

I think it is far better to respect the fact that the world needs all kinds of people to do all kinds of work and that anyone performing honest work whatever it is, deserves respect.

So well put. I think that if Pete reads that, he will certainly understand especially condsidering how much he seems to respect his own mother.
 
someone always has to take the fall for decisions being made. That's just how it works. With PI closing, it was Kevin Lansberry. With the resort decisions, it's Meg Crofton. The reality is Disney has been pushing "guest hostile" policies for the last couple years.

stroller price increases, premiums during busy times for dining(and now those are on the dining plan too!) increase the tickets, increase the parking, decrease fantasmic showings, the list goes on and on and on. I don't wanna hear excuses about how they are expanding the parks because they just dropped 4 billion dollars on marvel. Disney has very deep pocket books. Unfortunately all they do is raise prices and cut budgets. If you want a perfect example, wait until SM opens and see just how little was actually done to the ride. DL gets a huge makeover and we get crap.

Pete's rants are right on. They don't know what guests want, but that's largely because they simply don't care. As President of this resort, yes, it IS her fault and she should be held accountable. They only think about how to raise the next quarter's earnings, but they are hurting the long term profits and view of the company.
 
someone always has to take the fall for decisions being made. That's just how it works. With PI closing, it was Kevin Lansberry. With the resort decisions, it's Meg Crofton. The reality is Disney has been pushing "guest hostile" policies for the last couple years.

stroller price increases, premiums during busy times for dining(and now those are on the dining plan too!) increase the tickets, increase the parking, decrease fantasmic showings, the list goes on and on and on. I don't wanna hear excuses about how they are expanding the parks because they just dropped 4 billion dollars on marvel. Disney has very deep pocket books. Unfortunately all they do is raise prices and cut budgets. If you want a perfect example, wait until SM opens and see just how little was actually done to the ride. DL gets a huge makeover and we get crap.

Pete's rants are right on. They don't know what guests want, but that's largely because they simply don't care. As President of this resort, yes, it IS her fault and she should be held accountable. They only think about how to raise the next quarter's earnings, but they are hurting the long term profits and view of the company.

I totally agree! You can blame her. I however, don't enjoy hearing the name calling. But hey, I still listen and haven't turned off the podcast because of it so that is okay I guess. I also still go to disney despite the price increases, so those most be okay too....right??
 
Words are powerful.

When Pete used the term “cleaning lady”, he meant something specific. Many of us misunderstood and define the word differently. A cleaning lady is the person who cleans our homes, hotel rooms, offices. It defines the woman’s job, not her intelligence or potential ability.

Here at the public library, we encourage good use of language. Sometimes teens use the word “gay” when they mean something that is stupid or undesirable. We tell them that it means happy or in good spirits. Or it means someone who in a same-sex relationship or prefers same-sex partners. (The two definitions could apply to the same person)


I didn't see anything in Meg Crofton's biography that indicates she was involved in cleaning. I do not know about the business of running WDW, but I do enjoy learning about it from Pete and other sources.

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I totally agree! You can blame her. I however, don't enjoy hearing the name calling. But hey, I still listen and haven't turned off the podcast because of it so that is okay I guess. I also still go to disney despite the price increases, so those most be okay too....right??

Right....you can make an argument against her actions without the name calling. I am also with you that this is not something that will make me stop listening to the Podcast. When you put out as much content as the crew does you are bound to have slip ups or mistakes or things you probably shouldn't have said. It happens.

As far as the price increases, I can't count the number of times in the past 5-7 years where Disney has done something that creates outrage right away with people saying that "this is it" or "Disney is going to destroy their business" and yet somehow people keep showing up and keep spending their money hand over fist.

I disagree with alot of things Disney has done and I sure don't like price increases but I don't think there has been any signs that Disney has done anything to destroy their business. Maybe this move is it, but so far Disney has not put that straw on the back of the camel which breaks it.
 
There is a good possibility that Pete is making very good arguments when he discusses Meg Crofton. And, there is a good chance I would be a follower of what he is ranting about. However, he lost me when he decided he needed to personally attack her as a person. Pete has earned himself an amazing platform in which to fight his fights and tell the WORLD what he thinks of the policies. If you have to fight your fight with personal accusations, then maybe you do't have that strong of a fight. It might be funny to call her the cleaning lady to some. What a good little chuckle. But, at the end of the day, she's still a person who holds a very high position and worked her way up to that position, and you're meaning for calling names. And, there is a good possibility, that if she were listening, you've hurt her feelings. Is that really what you want to stand for?
 
New topic....bad clothes people wear to Walmart...

Discuss....

lmao - Mike, you just completed both Susan and me.

:lmao::rotfl2::lmao::rotfl2::lmao::rotfl2:

What has two thumbs and a new homepage??
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THIS GUY!!!!!! :rotfl:
 
I got that email a few weeks ago Mike. No comment. :scared1::scared1::scared1:

It is definitely not board friendly.

Notice, no link. :cool1: My brother sent that to me the other day. :scared1::scared1:

I was throwing it out there as a general topic of hijack...

But, I did complete Jason and Susan!! :love:
 
I thought I was a sheep?

That's funny. People post and call regular posters "sheep", then in their next post they say " Why are you offended? I didn't specifically call you out, this is just my opinion!" If you wouldn't say it face to face, you shouldn't type it. Everyone is bold and brave on the internet. :sad2:


I am going totally off topic but.....
Wow, I am really confused. Aren't you two good friends? Is this a joke but I am just so confused that I'm missing the humor?
 
Is Meg allowing you to have your meet at Toy Story Mania?

Disney is allowing to pay an wildly exorbitant price for the right have the Toy Story Mania party.

If that's what you meant...the asnwer is yes.

If you are asking if Disney is being benevolent and offering us a discount....the answer would then be no.
 
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