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[franandaj]

Well, hopefully it'll be legal again soon I'm a big supporter of marriage rights, so I really really hope that Prop 8 gets overturned. I don't get why some people have to tell other people how to live their lives just because they don't agree with it.

If I ever get married, I want a Disney wedding, which is why I wander around on there. I'm planning on checking out a couple of the ceremony sites while I'm down there in October so I can daydream while I'm cleaning at work

Thanks for the support, I think if we just wait long enough the old bigots will die off and not be able to vote and the younger generation who know people who are affected and understand it will take over. Hope that wasn't too political to say!

Giving one part of the population rights, won't take away rights from the rest, but I digress. I could have had a Disney Wedding because the Disney people would do whatever the laws said were legal, so during the time they would have and probably did do quite a few same sex weddings. I looked into it and we had about 75 guests at our wedding. The cost of the ceremony and reception (which was at a lovely oceanfront hotel with a view of the Queen Mary and a view of the Long Beach cityscape for our vows) was around 5 digits or less. To do something like that with Disneyland would have been around $25,000+ rings and other non reception stuff I wasn't so interested in a Disney wedding when I did the math! In fact, if I'd known that only two months after our wedding we would have had to pay for 24-7 caregivers for Fran's Father for over a year, we would have had the wedding and reception in a whole different location without an ocean view!

I love Disney and if we become filthy rich, maybe we will repeat our vows once it becomes legal again in a Disney ceremony, but I'm OK with not having a Disney wedding when I know I have a beautiful ring and so far we're not in debt over our eyeballs!

 

[DisneyFirefly]

Thanks for the support, I think if we just wait long enough the old bigots will die off and not be able to vote and the younger generation who know people who are affected and understand it will take over. Hope that wasn't too political to say!

Giving one part of the population rights, won't take away rights from the rest, but I digress. I could have had a Disney Wedding because the Disney people would do whatever the laws said were legal, so during the time they would have and probably did do quite a few same sex weddings. I looked into it and we had about 75 guests at our wedding. The cost of the ceremony and reception (which was at a lovely oceanfront hotel with a view of the Queen Mary and a view of the Long Beach cityscape for our vows) was around 5 digits or less. To do something like that with Disneyland would have been around $25,000+ rings and other non reception stuff I wasn't so interested in a Disney wedding when I did the math! In fact, if I'd known that only two months after our wedding we would have had to pay for 24-7 caregivers for Fran's Father for over a year, we would have had the wedding and reception in a whole different location without an ocean view!

I love Disney and if we become filthy rich, maybe we will repeat our vows once it becomes legal again in a Disney ceremony, but I'm OK with not having a Disney wedding when I know I have a beautiful ring and so far we're not in debt over our eyeballs!

I really hope I see it legalized in my lifetime I just don't see why people keep bringing religion into it when I could grab any random guy and go to the courthouse and get legally married WITHOUT God in the picture. Yet my uncle can't marry his boyfriend, and your marriage was nullified because of religious bigots. But anyway...

Well, Disney actually does same-sex commitment ceremonies. They're not legal, obviously, but they do allow them. When I get bored, I look at people's wedding plans, and when I get lonely, it's nice to daydream about. I don't think it'll ever happen, because I'm sure that if I ever DO get married, whoever I marry won't want to do it at WDW. But such is life, right? I think the minimum for a Disney wedding is 10 or 12k, unless you have an Escape wedding, which is like $5k and a package, and then the Cruise weddings are a little cheaper, but require a cruise (obviously).

Yeah, I get bored...

What happened with Fran's father that he needed 24/7 care?

 

[franandaj]

I really hope I see it legalized in my lifetime I just don't see why people keep bringing religion into it when I could grab any random guy and go to the courthouse and get legally married WITHOUT God in the picture. Yet my uncle can't marry his boyfriend, and your marriage was nullified because of religious bigots. But anyway...

Well, Disney actually does same-sex commitment ceremonies. They're not legal, obviously, but they do allow them. When I get bored, I look at people's wedding plans, and when I get lonely, it's nice to daydream about. I don't think it'll ever happen, because I'm sure that if I ever DO get married, whoever I marry won't want to do it at WDW. But such is life, right? I think the minimum for a Disney wedding is 10 or 12k, unless you have an Escape wedding, which is like $5k and a package, and then the Cruise weddings are a little cheaper, but require a cruise (obviously).

Yeah, I get bored...

What happened with Fran's father that he needed 24/7 care?

Actually we are still legally married, everyone who did in the window still is married, but no one could do it after it was voted down. Sort of

Fran's father was a raging alchoholic. He drank like a pint or quart of vodka every night for 20+ years. He suffered from blackouts constantly, but what took him down was that he fell and broke his pelvis. Previously he had "helpers" (people we knew that had some amount of nursing knowledge) that would come in clean the house and make him some meals that he had in the fridge, three days a week, and would leave before he started drinking. I would also make him meals that he had in the freezer. But once he fell and broke his pelvis, we realized he had no primary care physician.

We got him set up with our Dr. who is a Conceirge Dr, flat fee per year and she is there for you 24-7. We set him up with the deluxe plan, she comes to you, no office visits. Before she would let him go home from the SNF, she set him up with 24-7 caregivers because he was too demented to take care of himself. We knew that, but had no idea how to handle it. She sort of stepped in and saved our lives. After that we had to take his car away and she helped us with that. He was an awful abusive man, and she helped us with getting him on drugs that mellowed him out. Evidently if a patient is not competent enough to take care of themselves, Fran, with POA could authorize powerful drugs to make him happy.

At one point we had to seize his assets and remove him from his own Trust. Imagine him taking a cab down to his bank (becase he always insisted we give him cash and a credit card, the card was just invalid) and finding out that there were Dr.'s notes saying he was incompetent! We knew he was on the way because the caregiver told us, but talk about drama!

Yeah, that's the reason for 24-7 caregivers, can you imagine him in your facility, "Give me a drink! God D*** **! Where are my cigarrettes?" No, he needed to be kept at home...

You asked

 

[DisneyFirefly]

Evidently if a patient is not competent enough to take care of themselves, Fran, with POA could authorize powerful drugs to make him happy.

Yeah, we have a resident like that at my facility. We're not set up for dementia patients, but they're trying to fill the facility, so they took her anyway and her dementia is getting worse day by day. Her daughter has POA for her medical, financial, and legal matters and authorized a stronger dose of her dementia meds. They're not working, though We have other residents whose family members have POA, but she's the only one whose family actually uses it.

That's awful that he was that way. Are things better now?

 

[PrincessInOz]

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[DisneyFirefly]

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Thanks!

 

[PrincessInOz]

Thanks!

Your welcomed!

 

[DisneyFirefly]

How are you?

 

[PrincessInOz]

Tired.

I spent the day doing a heap of boring background reading at work! How about you? Aren't you done yet?

 

[DisneyFirefly]

I'm all right. Just spent the evening puttering around at home. I'm not at work, actually, and am at home I had tonight off. I've just only been awake since about 5pm (about 12 hours), and I'm not tired yet I'm just watching Bones on Netflix and looking something up online.

Are you gonna go to bed soon?

 

[PrincessInOz]

Have you been checking out the rehab board?

IASM is closed until 22 October.

One Man's Dream and STar Tours is closed.

And we may get to see Captain Eo. I saw it many many years ago at DLR.

 

[DisneyFirefly]

I haven't, actually. I'm getting there two days after Small World opens back up (although that ride drives me insane), and I'm okay with missing One Man's Dream and Star Tours

What's Captain Eo?

 

[PrincessInOz]

I'm all right. Just spent the evening puttering around at home. I'm not at work, actually, and am at home I had tonight off. I've just only been awake since about 5pm (about 12 hours), and I'm not tired yet I'm just watching Bones on Netflix and looking something up online.

Are you gonna go to bed soon?

YES! It's 8.40 here and I'm already ready for bed! No ever ready battery for me.

 

[DisneyFirefly]

I'm probably going to go to bed in a while, since my parents are due home in the afternoon (it's 5:40am). I have this weird bite on my arm, though, and I'm trying to figure out what it is. I saw spiders at work the other night, so I'm hoping it's nothing bad and is just a mosquito.

 

[PrincessInOz]

I assume that you know better than to scratch it? Look after yourself and I bet that you are happy that your parents are coming home,.

 

[DisneyFirefly]

Oh yeah. I've had enough bug bites to know not to scratch them. I've been putting hydrocortisone on it whenever it itches to the point where I want to scratch. I've got super sensitive skin, so I've always got anti-itch creams around the house

And yes, I'm happy that they're coming home I've been rather lonely the last couple weeks

 

[PrincessInOz]

Well, if you were in Australia and saw spiders...and then had a funny bite, I'd be rushing you to ICU about now.

 

[DisneyFirefly]

Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's just a mosquito bite, but if it gets worse I'm definitely going to go to the ER. I don't live too far from a hospital, and I can actually take the bus to it if need be.

 

[PrincessInOz]

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[DisneyFirefly]