Larger women in bikinis?

[Social Worker Sue]

Dressing accordingly to the social norms is not dressing with fear in mind and I and sorry but your response to this seems just a tad dramatical!

You are the one that brought up dressing "for fear":

more reason why we should dress with a sensible level of decorum for fear you may end up on the cover of one!

 

[NHdisneylover]

Dressing accordingly to the social norms is not dressing with fear in mind and I and sorry but your response to this seems just a tad dramatical!

In pretty much any modern western culture, wearing a bikini to a pool or beach IS within the social norms.

Taking the bikini top off in the US or the UK is not, but wearing it IS very much within the norms. Pretty much every pool and beach I have ever been to in any western country has had many women in bikinis (women of all shapes and sizes).

 

[punkin]

A jerk. Sadly, there are lots of them around lately.

That is unfortunately true. I think there were always nasty, awful people in this world, but now they can hide behind computers and be anonymously nasty and awful.

I am not interested in giving jerks that kind of power. They don;t get to control me--and I think it is sad to encourage others to dress to make the jerks of the world happy. It is very much a blame the victim kind of thing on a small scale.



Really? I don't see that. Here are several photos of plus sized women in bikinis, that all came up near the top of the page in a google search. Do you really get that feel from them? And if so, you don't get that same feel from skinny women in bikinis?

I think those women look great (and confident). I don't like the bikini with heels look however (JMO).

 

[robinb]

Dressing accordingly to the social norms is not dressing with fear in mind and I and sorry but your response to this seems just a tad dramatical!

You are certainly allowed your opinion that only thin and fit women should wear bikinis. However, I think that is the point that people are making ... it's now the "social norm" to wear a bikini even if you are a double-digit size.

 

[donaldlovesdaisy]

A jerk. Sadly, there are lots of them around lately.

I am not interested in giving jerks that kind of power. They don;t get to control me--and I think it is sad to encourage others to dress to make the jerks of the world happy. It is very much a blame the victim kind of thing on a small scale.

Really? I don't see that. Here are several photos of plus sized women in bikinis, that all came up near the top of the page in a google search. Do you really get that feel from them? And if so, you don't get that same feel from skinny women in bikinis?

Yes IMOP these women looked like they are wearing clothing that does not fit ! I said earlier that not every body type is made for a bikini and that includes both skinny and overweight people! I just feel that bikinis were not made for everyone and there are more body types that aren't flattering in one then are!

 

[Social Worker Sue]

This girl looks great! I bet she is a size 16-18. I find her attractive

you don't get that same feel from skinny women in bikinis?

 

[luvmy3]

I'll jump in if you don't mind.
Do I care what others wear? no
Have I made comments when I see a dress style I guess you could describe as questionable? yes I have. Do I walk up to the person and say something? of course not.

You have never seen an outfit on some one and questioned whether or not they owned a mirror? (this is the dis so I'm sure some one will post how they never ever say any thing disparaging about strangers).

Well I totally admit to my bad habits.
I have seen folks in dresses three sizes too small and thought up the line from steel magnolias.

Truvey: I'll bet you money she paid 500 dollars for that dress and don't even bother to wear a girdle.
Claree: looks like two pigs fighting under a blanket.
Truve: Well I haven't left the house without lycra on these thighs since I was 14.

I fully admit to thinking that some people probably didn't look in the mirror before they left the house, however that doesn't mean I think they shouldn't wear whatever they want if they are comfortable doing it. What they choose to put on has absolutely no effect on my life. I may choose not to wear what I see someone else wear, but I don't care if they wear it. The pp I'm asking clearly doesn't think overweight people belong in bikinis for some personal reason. I'm just wondering what the reason is because it doesn't effect them on a personal level anyway.

To me, it sounds like someone who gave HIS OPINION. Same as you.

Nowadays it seems like some not only disagree with others opinions, they disagree with the notion that someone else should even HAVE an opinion.

This is a discussion board where people are free to have opinions and others are free to discuss those opinions. If one just wants to post an opinion without anyone asking them to explain/defend or whatever, maybe they should stay off DISCUSSION boards and start a blog

Because while it does not affect me personally there is a sense of decorum that we should follow in public places. I think you are reading too much into my opinions on this subject. It is just like the thread here months ago about offensive tshirts while no one is personally affected by it but it it was the opinion of many that it is just rude to subject people in public places to these shirts and yes having your lady parts hanging out in public because your bikini is two sizes to small is inappropriate which is why we have laws about indecency. What I see is you aren't in agreement with my opinions which is fine but because they are not your opinions they are wrong and I can't see how that makes you any better then me.

I may be reading too much into it, but you were the one who called it gross. You are entitled to that opinion, and you are free to not want to discuss it, but you did put it out there. So, if you aren't going to explain it, then you leave us to read into it, whatever we will.
And no I don't think I'm better than you, I think you may be reading to much into what I'm asking.
I'm just trying to understand how a person gets to the point where what other people choose to wear on the beach bothers them so much.

 

[M2B]

Those bikinis pictured above fit properly. I guess my peeve would be with poorly fitting bikinis no matter who is wearing them.

 

[luvmy3]

Yes IMOP these women looked like they are wearing clothing that does not fit ! I said earlier that not every body type is made for a bikini and that includes both skinny and overweight people! I just feel that bikinis were not made for everyone and there are more body types that aren't flattering in one then are!

All their girlie parts are properly covered so how can you say the suits don't fit? If a size 4 woman was wearing any of those suits, with the same girlie parts covered, would you feel the same?

 

[LiveYourLife]

Doesn't bother me. I'm too busy enjoying quality, non-work time with my family, a beautiful day, and some sort of frozen alcoholic beverage with an umbrella to notice or care what other people are wearing to the beach, pool, lido deck, etc.

 

[NoSoup4U]

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[NoSoup4U]

To me, it sounds like someone who gave HIS OPINION. Same as you.

Nowadays it seems like some not only disagree with others opinions, they disagree with the notion that someone else should even HAVE an opinion.

Good point! You get flammed on Dis for even having an opinion. Everyone is entitled to it. I understand what donaldlovesdaisy is trying to say. Is it wrong to think/say that overweight women should not be wearing a bikini? I cant really say because as I said, theyre entitled to an opinion. If s/he thinks its wrong, who am I to try and convince them otherwise? Who am I to start flaming that person? S/he is entitled to think whatever they want. I dont care either way. That person is entitled to their opinion and let me tell you, im pretty sure donaldlovesdaisy isnt the only one who thinks such a thing!

 

[LiveYourLife]

Wow! The Judgey McJudgerson's are out in full force! If I didn't know any better, I would think this thread was full of a bunch of sock puppets created by a poster who's username rhymes with "Sireprancer"!!!

 

[LSmith]

Wow! The Judgey McJudgerson's are out in full force! If I didn't know any better, I would think this thread was full of a bunch of sock puppets created by a poster who's username rhymes with "Sireprancer"!!!

Good thing that you don't judge people ever (looking at your previous posts).

It's ok to judge on the DIS but NOT when it concerns weight. Disers go nuts over fat acceptance. Probably, because like most of America, the DIS is full of overweight or obese people. It's a touchy subject.

Still can't figure out why the OP started it if not to pot stir.

 

[donaldlovesdaisy]

All their girlie parts are properly covered so how can you say the suits don't fit? If a size 4 woman was wearing any of those suits, with the same girlie parts covered, would you feel the same?

Why are you so set on bringing me around to your way of thinking??? I don't think it looks good or is good fit for those women bathing suit wise. I also don't think encouraging over weight women that is OK to be that way is a good idea because it is not good for their over all health. Am I running around passing judgment on strangers or knocking donuts out of their hands absolutely not but if a friend or my daughter were 50 pounds over weight and they came to me in a bikini and asked me if they looked OK I would tell them IMOP NO and they should choose something else. Sorry but those women with the exception of the first picture are not at a healthy weight and we should not encourage them to stay that way. Oh and before you even start I am also not saying we should belittle overweight people or bully them but to educate them and help them make better lifestyle chocies so that they can become a healthy weight.

 

[NotUrsula]

Eh, my feeling about it is that when an adult appears in public in clothing that is very unflattering to his/her figure (the figure the person ACTUALLY has, not the figure that he/she might wish for), then the person being hurt is the wearer. If you choose unflattering clothing, you simply look foolish wearing it in public.

So, are bikinis "wrong" if you are something over a Misses size 14? No, but once we reach that size it becomes time to consider that what you like best might not always be the most flattering option. If a larger person is fit (like those models) there are more options available that will be flattering, but for the most part, if you are *not* fit, and there is a lot of overall jiggle, coverage and containment is going to be the most flattering way to go.

FWIW, that also goes for men. If you're male and carrying a floppy gut, go for looser trunks that have a leg at least 10" long, and put the drawstring ON your waist, not under the apron of flesh. The "under the apron" look doesn't look anymore flattering on a man than it does on a woman.

One over-riding point, however: no matter what kind of figure you have, if I see you on the beach or at a pool playing on the sand and actually getting in the water, I am ALWAYS going to be silently cheering you on, no matter what you look like. The absolute WORST thing that an overweight person can do is hide inside and refuse to even try to get any exercise in a public place because some bored person might make fun of the fat guy/girl. No matter what you look like, get out and play ... ESPECIALLY if you have young kids. You really don't want them to look back on their childhoods one day and have their over-riding memory of the beach be that Mom would not come out and play with them because she was afraid that some stranger would laugh at her.

 

[Sam81]

I get the opposite. "Look at that guy, he's so muscular, what is he a Greek God?!" So I feel the pain.

People should wear what they feel comfortable in. As a man, if a woman walks by with giant *&%$@ in a bikini, I am going to look. Just like if a 300lb guy walked by in a Speedo. But I only think about it for a milisecond and then I am back into whatever I was doing.

 

[luvmy3]

Why are you so set on bringing me around to your way of thinking??? I don't think it looks good or is good fit for those women bathing suit wise. I also don't think encouraging over weight women that is OK to be that way is a good idea because it is not good for their over all health. Am I running around passing judgment on strangers or knocking donuts out of their hands absolutely not but if a friend or my daughter were 50 pounds over weight and they came to me in a bikini and asked me if they looked OK I would tell them IMOP NO and they should choose something else. Sorry but those women with the exception of the first picture are not at a healthy weight and we should not encourage them to stay that way. Oh and before you even start I am also not saying we should belittle overweight people or bully them but to educate them and help them make better lifestyle chocies so that they can become a healthy weight.

Did I ever tell you you need to think like me?
I'm asking you questions based on what you choose to post here, that is all. If you aren't willing to discuss the things you post, then why are you a member of a discussion board?

You are entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to think your opinion is whack (for lack of a better term) and question you about it.


Above, you say you aren't passing judgment, but all your posts here about overweight women in bikinis speak otherwise. Especially those Army wives you mentioned.

 

[Social Worker Sue]

Oh and before you even start I am also not saying we should belittle overweight people or bully them but to educate them and help them make better lifestyle chocies so that they can become a healthy weight.

Oh PLEASE! Dont start acting like it is all about health now. You are just mentioning health, as you are now back pedaling.
Prior to this post, you were all about how gross and what an eyesore larger women are in bikinis.

I am pretty sure that is belittling. Dont you? Your words were cruel.

These are all quotes by YOU, donaldlovesdaisy, none of which show your now false concern for health:

"Sorry but it is gross and I cringe every year:"

"if you are a size 10 with a giant muffin top then yes I think your bikini days should be over!"

"I am embarrassed for women who let it all hang out when they should not"

"if you have fat rolls keep them covered"

"it is kind of hard to ignore huge eyesore like that"

"Why set your kid up for failure like that in public?"

"What is shameful is not letting someone know when maybe they should be a little more reserved when it comes to wearing a bathing suit and encouraging them to go out and make a fool of themselves"

"don't cry when you end up on the people of wAl mart or fat girls in bikinis!"

 

[LiveYourLife]

Good thing that you don't judge people ever (looking at your previous posts).

It's ok to judge on the DIS but NOT when it concerns weight. Disers go nuts over fat acceptance. Probably, because like most of America, the DIS is full of overweight or obese people. It's a touchy subject.

Still can't figure out why the OP started it if not to pot stir.

Thanks LSmith! Like I've said before, I know I'm a celebrity in my own mind, but when other posters have to stalk past posts of mine to "call me out", well it just feeds into my ego. So cute and charming of you to do that.

With relation to THIS thread, I said that the Judgey McJudgerson's are out in full force. No where did I say that I never, ever, ever, in the history of everdom have ever judged here on the DIS. So let's keep it 100, and not get it twisted. You may want to stay in your lane, because I will own my behavior.

I don't care what people wear regardless of their size. Not going 'nuts' over fat acceptance. It's just that: I. Don't. Care.

LSmith you and I can agree on two things: weight is a touchy subject, and I'm not really sure the point of the creation of this thread either.