Ladies' ballcap left on during dinner

[jkmmah]

I am asking for your thoughts on not taking my ballcap off during dinner. Let me explain...

I am a 30ish woman with very thin hair. Wearing a cap is a neccesity in the parks so my scalp does not get sunburned. Besides the sun, wearing a cap also just makes me feel more comfortable since I'm so self-conscious of my thin hair. I know it's good manners for men to remove their caps before dining, but what about a woman? Seeing my "hat hair" is even worse than seeing my thinning hair. My caps are cute ones, too, with iron on Disney characters on them.

Would you be offended at these dinner spots to see a lady keep her cap on? We'll be at Kona, Coral Reef, Captain Jack's, and 'Ohana.

 

[Disney with Triplets]

I have a couple of friends who are cancer survivors and both have had various hats, scarves, and just plain "thin hair days".

Also, while Disney has nicer, sit down, table service restaurants inside the parks and resorts, I think a lot of the etiquette police forget that the property is still a huge amusement park catering to families relaxing on vacation. A pet peave of mine is when Disney goers try to hold WDW properties and the Disney Cruise Line to the same level of dining etiquette dress as a 5 star restaurant in Manhattan that caters to a business or broadway crowd.

Wear your cute caps and enjoy your vacation!

 

[diskid@heart]

There are all kinds of reasons people wear hats. An older gentleman in our church wouldn't go to service because he had just had skin cancer removed and wore a hat at all times to cover the scars -he finally got it! We don't care if he wears his hat - we are just glad to see him. FYI - His scars are healing and he is feeling much better.

So - if I were next to you I wouldn't be offended to see you wearing your hat!! I also wouldn't be offended to see your "hat hair" or "thinning hair".
Just happy to see someone enjoying their vacation!!

Go and have FUN!!

 

[Uncleromulus]

Wouldn't bother me at all.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Where will you be dining? In a park, no problem - you will NOT be the only person wearing a hat. Granted, there may be fewer at places like Bistro de Paris or San Angel Inn... Counter service restaurants outside the parks, ditto. Buffets, yeah, same thing.
Boatwrights and places like that, sure. Maya Grill, maybe not so much. "Fancy-schmancy" places like Artist Point, Calfornia Grill - nope.
While your hats are cute and "Disneyish", what about a straw hat that coordinates with your outfit for the fancier places?

 

[NeverlandClub23]

I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. I wear a ballcap many times just because I like to (although my Dad's old fashioned and believes all hats need to be removed while at the table but he just needs to get over it ). I wouldn't feel comfortable wearing one at an upscale, signature restaurant but I would wear one at any of the restaurants you mentioned, and I have and have seen many people wearing them as well. You may have one or two people that don't agree with wearing hats in any restaurant while you are there, but oh well, there will always be people who don't agree with something other people do or wear. What may bother some people, will not bother others.

 

[tripplanner]

I say wear it. I don't like to see men/boys in hats at restaurants, just because I grew up with family that always made the boys remove their hats for "good manners". The rule didn't apply to girls. I'm never offended by girls in hats.

 

[MamaQuack]

Wear it! If it makes you feel better then that is what matters. Wearing a cap does not affect the taste of my meal or the attention my server will give me. You have every right to be relaxed and enjoy yourself. And, it is a "magical" place so let yourself enjoy that and don't fret over the fashion police. I would, however, be a little put off if you were only in your swimsuit

 

[Evil Queen]

Wouldn't bother us.

 

[splashmtnman]

wear your cap. I think most people wouldn't give it a second thought if you had on a hat. I've seen men and women wearing them in restaurants at WDW. Even in places like Le Cellier there were men w/ caps on. No big deal at all.

 

[camlace]

Slightly off-topic...I have never understood why the "rule" does not apply to girls In my house when you sat at the table the hat came off...boy/girl...didn't matter. I also take off my hat when the anthem is sung and girls are supposedly exempt from that as well. If all the guys around have to show their ugly hat head out of respect then I will too!

That being said...wear your hat with pride but I agree, a ball cap probably would not be appropriate at the signature restaurants

 

[NeverlandClub23]

Slightly off-topic...I have never understood why the "rule" does not apply to girls In my house when you sat at the table the hat came off...boy/girl...didn't matter. I also take off my hat when the anthem is sung and girls are supposedly exempt from that as well. If all the guys around have to show their ugly hat head out of respect then I will too!

That being said...wear your hat with pride but I agree, a ball cap probably would not be appropriate at the signature restaurants

I agree. I never understood that either.

 

[KCMiller]

It wouldn't bother me at all.

OT as well - I was at a football game last week, and rose for the National Anthem, hand over heart. Midway through, I felt a tap on my shoulder, and a man behind me was frowning at me and pointing to my baseball hat. "It doesn't apply to me" I said, and finished the song. I never thought it did - I thought it was like the old church rules - men take hats off, women leave theirs on. Now, I'm wondering. That was the FIRST time anyone ever suggested I take my hat off, though . . . .


KC

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Having lost all my hair at one point myself, it wouldn't bother me at all. If I did decide to take off my hat, I would probably try to get a table up against a wall. Do what's comfortable for you.

 

[MickeyMoz]

You should feel very comfortable to wear a hat.
Dinner at these places are what each person makes of it.
If you want to go dressed up and have a nice night you can, but you can also feel comfortable going to these places directly from a park, wearing a hat, shorts, etc.

Go. Wear your cap. Have a great time.

 

[Amyrlin]

Wear it, if you are worred at all, keep an eye out for a dofferent hat and then if you want to you can just swap over. It is your holiday, and ettique is also on your side, it is men that should remove thier hars indoors, not women.

 

[Dana49]

Wouldn't bother us. Have a great time!

 

[mickeywho?]

Googled this topic just for interest sake. I wondered where our funny traditions were based. (FYI - when on vacation I think it's perfectly acceptable for you to where your "daytime" hat to dinner - I wouldn't be bothered by it at all - especially since I was on vacation as well!)

"(Men's) Hats are removed when inside, except for places that are akin to public streets, like lobbies, corridors, and crowded elevators (non-residential). In a public building (where there are no apartments) the elevator is considered a public area.

You may choose to remove your hat in a public elevator, but in the presence of a lady your hat must be removed.

A gentleman takes off his hat and holds it in his hand when a lady enters the elevator in any building that can be classified as a dwelling such as an apartment house or hotel. He puts it on again in the corridor.

A public corridor is like the street, but an elevator in a hotel or apartment house has the character of a room in a house and there a gentleman does not keep his hat on in the presence of ladies.

Hats are removed for the National Anthem, passing of the Flag and funeral processions, outdoor weddings, dedications, and photographs.

Removed hats are held in hand in such a way that only the outside and never the lining is visible.

In places of worship head coverings are required for both men and women in Muslim mosques, and Sikh temples.

Men are required to cover their heads in Jewish synagogues, but only married women wear hats or scarves representing a display of her increased modesty towards those other than the woman's husband.

The small, round head covering or skullcap worn by men is called a “kippah” which means, “dome” or “cupola”. The Yiddish word for the cap is “yarmulke”. The wearing of the yarmulke is a reminder of humility before God, a mark of respect in a Jewish congregation, and a sign of recognition of something greater above oneself, which is why many male Jews wear a head covering whenever they are awake, with the exceptions of bathing and swimming.

It is acceptable for women to wear hats in Christian churches, (it was once required, but the custom has all but disappeared) but disrespectful for men to wear them.

A woman may leave her hat on indoors or during the playing of The National Anthem, unless it is considered unisex like a baseball cap. When wearing such a unisex cap, a woman should follow the same guidelines as for men.

Why are there different rules for men and women? It may have to do with the difference in the styles of men’s and women's hats.

Men's hats are easily removed, but women's hats with ribbons, bows, flowers and other decorations can be quite a production to remove, especially if they're anchored with hatpins. Women might also risk messing up their hairdos if they had to remove their hats. A lady, however, never wore brimmed hats after 5 PM, a fashion rule that developed because she didn't need a brim after sunset".

 

[TJ's Mom]

If you are going to a nice restaurant and are uncomfortable wearing a baseball hat, why not get a dressier hat? They have some really cool hats out there! At 33 I was bald from chemo treatment for breast cancer. I did not want to wear a wig but wanted something fun. Hats were a great solution. Remember it is your vacation - have fun and wear what you want. If you want to wear a baseball hate, wear it!

Mickeywho? - Love the history of hats!

 

[Deb & Bill]

Slightly off-topic...I have never understood why the "rule" does not apply to girls In my house when you sat at the table the hat came off...boy/girl...didn't matter. I also take off my hat when the anthem is sung and girls are supposedly exempt from that as well. If all the guys around have to show their ugly hat head out of respect then I will too!

That being said...wear your hat with pride but I agree, a ball cap probably would not be appropriate at the signature restaurants

Probably goes back to the days when ladies and girls had to cover their heads in church and men had to remove their hats. Unless you were Jewish. And I'm not, so I don't really know what they do.