Kids walking through quiet cove area

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Kids walked through the adults area frequently on the Wonder. I didn't mind, but I could always tell when a child walked behind me as they seemed to always stomp for some reason.

When I was sitting with my 18 year old a cast member came up and asked if my daughter was 18. So, I don't think any kids would be able to sit for very long there.
 
Kids walked through the adults area frequently on the Wonder. I didn't mind, but I could always tell when a child walked behind me as they seemed to always stomp for some reason.

When I was sitting with my 18 year old a cast member came up and asked if my daughter was 18. So, I don't think any kids would be able to sit for very long there.


It really depends on the crew. One day of our first Fantasy cruise a preteen was in the adult pool. Their parents kept telling them to dunk under water when ever a CM came by. Finally a guest must have pointed the kid out because a CM came over and asked her age and when they said she was an adult they asked to see her room card because they didn't believe it. The family quickly rushed off after that.

The worst one I saw was the unaccompanied 5ish year old you was in the hot tub. He was only in for a minute or two but the CMs asked where his parents were and he said I don't know but they said I could go swimming with a vest. I was shocked if his parents did indeed say that to him. The CMs quickly started tracking down his parents to let them know their child should not be swimming unaccompanied.
 
um, don't go outside of my home altogether b/c i expect an "adults only" area to be adults only?!?!?! riiiiiiight.

Okay, one more time the individual who started the thread asked for opinions about walking through a pool deck area that does not need a key/special password to access. As many have clearly stated sometimes it is just easier to WALK THROUGH to get to certain areas on the ship where kids are allowed. I did not tell you to never leave your house, we are all adults here so i am sure you know this, however my opinion was clearly stated in response to the question posted not to you directly. And I WALK THROUGH this pool deck area with child in hand and when I see the same I barely even notice since I am enjoying my vacation. Your opinion is just that, YOURS to have as is mine. :thumbsup2 :wave2:
 

DCL did mess up in designing the space because unlike the small ships the doors are in the middle rather than on the edges. Personally I like it better when kids aren't even walking through. They get almost the entire ship, I like a few places without them. And more often than not (in my experience) kids aren't just passing through, but they stop and I do find it annoying. But I know families avoiding the area isn't the reality (again, DCL screwed this up, not parents). Its why I now rarely go to Quiet Cove except to pop in to the Cove Cafe. I go up to Satellite Falls instead as there's no reason for kids to be on that deck at all and therefore nothing to annoy me.

That said, since OP was looking for opinions, my recommendation would be if you walk through with your kids, stick to the outside edges (even though it does not seem like the natural walking path) rather than walk directly through the middle. I think this is probably slightly easier to do on the side with the bar than on the side with the hot tubs because people tend to move the chairs around on the hot tub side and its difficult for anyone to walk much less families. But due to the bar on the other side furniture obstructing walkways is less of an issue.

We had a room in front of the forward elevators for the WBPC and every once in a while I would forget to walk to midship to take the elevators up to deck 9. I hated it when the doors opened and I was like...crap, spa! I wouldn't take the kids back down to avoid going through, but I did hustle them through as fast as I could and told them they weren't allowed to talk. Luckily that only ever happened a few times.
 
I've only sailed on the Dream & Fantasy, so I can't speak for the older ships. That having been said, I agree that this is primarily a design problem.

If the kids pass through quickly, I have no problem with that. I certainly don't expect someone to take their kids to the midship elevator (or stairs), go down one floor, walk underneath the adult area, and then come back up to get to their Deck 11 rooms or Senses or whatever.

I think what is a relatively minor issue is exacerbated by rude self-entitled parents who don't think the rules apply to their family.
 
Okay, one more time the individual who started the thread asked for opinions about walking through a pool deck area that does not need a key/special password to access. As many have clearly stated sometimes it is just easier to WALK THROUGH to get to certain areas on the ship where kids are allowed. I did not tell you to never leave your house, we are all adults here so i am sure you know this, however my opinion was clearly stated in response to the question posted not to you directly. And I WALK THROUGH this pool deck area with child in hand and when I see the same I barely even notice since I am enjoying my vacation. Your opinion is just that, YOURS to have as is mine. :thumbsup2 :wave2:

re-read your post. you did say not to leave my house.

and i state my opinion again.... obey the rules. adults only means adults only, not "i want to just walk my child through so i am entitled to ignore this rule". OP wanted opinions and that is mine.
 
I spent a bunch of time in the adult's area when on the Dream this past May. When I was there families were constantly walking through which I could understand as the stairs lead into the adult area I don't see another way aside from re-routing which I think is fine if people choose to do that & fine if they choose not to. I had no problem with families & kids moving through the area to get from A->B providing the kid wasn't screaming or causing some kind of disturbance. I didn't have problem if the kids talked or walked on their own but I was happy that the staff moved along any family or kids that stopped in the area not because they were causing any issue but just to be fair & consistent to all the families that had organised themselves within the posted rules.

Having never cruised before my expectation was that there would be no kids allowed to walk through the area, as my only experience with adult only areas was in Las Vegas when I was under 21 & wasn't allowed to leave the "coloured carpeted" walkways through the casino on my way to & from the pool, if I wanted to go to somewhere just the other side of the slot machines I had to walk around but not through as the slots were in an adult only area.

For me it's a non-issue & how it is right now is just fine with me. But I can understand the position of anybody who wants a steadfast application of the rule & I think that even if a small % of folks wish Disney to enforce 100% no kids in the adult only area then I think they should, or in a perfect world change the location of the adult area so there is no need for through traffic.
 
Thank you all again. I appreciate the various viewpoints. We will likely try to minimize walking through this area, but will use the walkway (respectfully) when going to deck 11.

Based on comments, it sounds like some will consider us "entitled people who don't think the rules apply" but that is ok, as I am willing to take this risk and accept the consequences. I can't help but believe that everyone in this world has broken a rule at some point. Just not sure I would say they were acting entitled or rude, though.
 
Thank you all again. I appreciate the various viewpoints. We will likely try to minimize walking through this area, but will use the walkway (respectfully) when going to deck 11.

Based on comments, it sounds like some will consider us "entitled people who don't think the rules apply" but that is ok, as I am willing to take this risk and accept the consequences. I can't help but believe that everyone in this world has broken a rule at some point. Just not sure I would say they were acting entitled or rude, though.

"entitled people who don't think the rules apply" - well if you know the rules and choose to blatantly disregard them what else would you call it? I am honestly curious.

Think of this too, you are also teaching your children that the rules don't apply to them.
 
"entitled people who don't think the rules apply" - well if you know the rules and choose to blatantly disregard them what else would you call it? I am honestly curious.

Think of this too, you are also teaching your children that the rules don't apply to them.

I actually call it "I am aware of the rule. I understand there may be consequences if I break the rule. I am willing to accept those consequences." The rule still applies to me, and I completely understand that. If folks give me stink eye or a CM says to go another way (the consequence), I am willing to accept that risk to not trek all the way back to the mid-ship elevators, go down a floor, trek back to the front and go up a floor. Like, if I choose to go one mile an hour over the speed limit, I accept that I could be pulled over and get a ticket -- we all make decisions, and I have yet to meet someone who is perfect and has never broken a rule. In this case, I was curious about opinions -- trying to figure out if it was behavior of those walking through or simply walking through. There are folks on both sides, and I respect that.

I am not teaching my children that rules don't apply to them....but I will teach them to make informed decisions and accept consequences when they break the rules (but I certainly did not ask for parenting advice in any of my posts, thank you).

ETA: Definition of entitled: believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment. This definition doesn't apply here, as I know the rules and consequences still apply.
 
Are you SERIOUS?
I just looked at PrincessShmoo's photos that she so kindly posted and the signs imply that walking through is ok, as long as you don't use the facilities in the area. Now, I didn't go to lawyering school, and my interpretation isn't a legal one, just a common sense one. However, I would still prefer children traversing the area not speak. I acknowledge it is not practical in all cases for an adult to carry them through the area, so I guess I'm ok with them being allowed to walk.
 
We had a room in front of the forward elevators for the WBPC and every once in a while I would forget to walk to midship to take the elevators up to deck 9. I hated it when the doors opened and I was like...crap, spa! I wouldn't take the kids back down to avoid going through, but I did hustle them through as fast as I could and told them they weren't allowed to talk. Luckily that only ever happened a few times.

Your boys are also impeccably well behaved! I would love if all kids onboard were as good as the boys.

I think its nice when people try and avoid walking through by using the mid ship elevators. There's not a long walk between forward and mid ship. if you are going to do it anyway, why not do it before you get on the elevator. Similarly, I hate walking between midship and aft on the pool decks because of all the people (kids and non-kids) so unless I'm already up there I walk back to the aft elevators. But sometimes we forget - me included. :)
 
I just looked at PrincessShmoo's photos that she so kindly posted and the signs imply that walking through is ok, as long as you don't use the facilities in the area. Now, I didn't go to lawyering school, and my interpretation isn't a legal one, just a common sense one. However, I would still prefer children traversing the area not speak. I acknowledge it is not practical in all cases for an adult to carry them through the area, so I guess I'm ok with them being allowed to walk.
Now, see, I read them as "this area is for 18 and over only". I don't see "unless you are just walking through".
 
Thank you all again. I appreciate the various viewpoints. We will likely try to minimize walking through this area, but will use the walkway (respectfully) when going to deck 11.

Based on comments, it sounds like some will consider us "entitled people who don't think the rules apply" but that is ok, as I am willing to take this risk and accept the consequences. I can't help but believe that everyone in this world has broken a rule at some point. Just not sure I would say they were acting entitled or rude, though.

I appreciate you bringing this up as it is an awkward subject that I've concerned about myself. We are staying in deck 12 on the Fantasy with 3 kids and the deck plan poses a difficult logistical dilemma. I fully understand those who are upset by children being noisy or hanging out in this area and I'd want them to say something to the kids, or complain to the staff, if that were to happen. There is no trait that I hate more than an inflated sense of entitlement and we are constantly emphasizing to the kids that need to obey the rules and be polite in the shared areas. In this case, however, I simply cannot ask them first to go down to the 10the floor and back up to the 12th to get to the room: it's not reasonable as long as they move quickly and quietly through the adult area. On the other hand, they absolutely have to stick to those rules every time or they will lose the privilege.

This is obviously a heated topic. I understand those who have expressed strong opinions about staying to the rules. Please just take note that some of us go to great lengths to comply with the rules and explain to our kids what is expected of them when rules clearly are too stiff and have unintended consequences. If you see children politely and quietly beelining through the Cove area to the doors, please think an extra time before ruining their day by saying something nasty: the only alternative for them would be to take a significant detour.
 
This is obviously a heated topic. I understand those who have expressed strong opinions about staying to the rules. Please just take note that some of us go to great lengths to comply with the rules and explain to our kids what is expected of them when rules clearly are too stiff and have unintended consequences. If you see children politely and quietly beelining through the Cove area to the doors, please think an extra time before ruining their day by saying something nasty: the only alternative for them would be to take a significant detour.

Just curious - why would they need to go down to 10? Why not go up from 11 to 12 at midship instead of walking through quiet cove first to walk up the flight to 12? There's nothing signficant about that - its the same distance as walking through quiet cove.
 
the "rules are rules except when it inconveniences me" is the very definition of entitlement. sigh.
 
I appreciate you bringing this up as it is an awkward subject that I've concerned about myself. We are staying in deck 12 on the Fantasy with 3 kids and the deck plan poses a difficult logistical dilemma. I fully understand those who are upset by children being noisy or hanging out in this area and I'd want them to say something to the kids, or complain to the staff, if that were to happen. There is no trait that I hate more than an inflated sense of entitlement and we are constantly emphasizing to the kids that need to obey the rules and be polite in the shared areas. In this case, however, I simply cannot ask them first to go down to the 10the floor and back up to the 12th to get to the room: it's not reasonable as long as they move quickly and quietly through the adult area. On the other hand, they absolutely have to stick to those rules every time or they will lose the privilege.

This is obviously a heated topic. I understand those who have expressed strong opinions about staying to the rules. Please just take note that some of us go to great lengths to comply with the rules and explain to our kids what is expected of them when rules clearly are too stiff and have unintended consequences. If you see children politely and quietly beelining through the Cove area to the doors, please think an extra time before ruining their day by saying something nasty: the only alternative for them would be to take a significant detour.

IF you are on Deck 12 they could take the elevator or stairs up to 12 and walk across the walk way there which is not an adults only area at any point. The only people that should logistically be annoyed by this are the concierge level rooms on deck 11. To be honest I'm not even sure why Disney put those rooms there. They could have put other adults only things in that space but I guess concierge rooms make them a ton of money.
 
I appreciate you bringing this up as it is an awkward subject that I've concerned about myself. We are staying in deck 12 on the Fantasy with 3 kids and the deck plan poses a difficult logistical dilemma. I fully understand those who are upset by children being noisy or hanging out in this area and I'd want them to say something to the kids, or complain to the staff, if that were to happen. There is no trait that I hate more than an inflated sense of entitlement and we are constantly emphasizing to the kids that need to obey the rules and be polite in the shared areas. In this case, however, I simply cannot ask them first to go down to the 10the floor and back up to the 12th to get to the room: it's not reasonable as long as they move quickly and quietly through the adult area. On the other hand, they absolutely have to stick to those rules every time or they will lose the privilege.

This is obviously a heated topic. I understand those who have expressed strong opinions about staying to the rules. Please just take note that some of us go to great lengths to comply with the rules and explain to our kids what is expected of them when rules clearly are too stiff and have unintended consequences. If you see children politely and quietly beelining through the Cove area to the doors, please think an extra time before ruining their day by saying something nasty: the only alternative for them would be to take a significant detour.

This! Thank you, you have said this very well! If you have a room forward on deck 11, this is challenging. I agree about the rules, which is why we keep a very tight leash if we choose to go this way.
 
This! Thank you, you have said this very well! If you have a room forward on deck 11 or 12, this is challenging. I agree about the rules, which is why we keep a very tight leash if we choose to go this way.

Why 12. If you use the stairs to go up to 12 and then walk across the deck it is the same distance and going all the way front on 11 to use those stairs as well.
 
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