Keith Olbermann

Although I agree with him I don't agree with the way he made Gay people sound like poor lost puppies....
 

[QUOTE="Got Disney";28653734]Although I agree with him I don't agree with the way he made Gay people sound like poor lost puppies....[/QUOTE]

You are entitled to that opinion, but I feel he was expressing his emotions and thoughts on this important issue and using comparisons for people who still don't get it.
 
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You are entitled to that opinion, but I feel he was expressing his emotions and thoughts on this important issue and using comparisons for people who still don't get it.

unfortunately the people that don't get it are not going to...no matter what he says....many are attached to the church and even those that are not and are not against Gay people per-say feel that marriage is to be between a man and a woman only....

They are also entitled to there opinions....weather we agree with them or not.
 
[QUOTE="Got Disney";28653921]unfortunately the people that don't get it are not going to...no matter what he says....many are attached to the church and even those that are not and are not against Gay people per-say feel that marriage is to be between a man and a woman only....

They are also entitled to there opinions....weather we agree with them or not.[/QUOTE]

Yes, they have the right to their opinions. Do they need to turn their opinions into law and make them constititional amendments? I say Rove will pay for this one in some significant way. I sincerely hope it's public. To use such an item to possibly change other election issues is evil.
 
Yes, they have the right to their opinions. Do they need to turn their opinions into law and make them constititional amendments? I say Rove will pay for this one in some significant way. I sincerely hope it's public. To use such an item to possibly change other election issues is evil.

I think this is the biggest part of the issue. Why is their opinion being made into law? If they don't like gay marriage- Don't have one!
 
I think this is the biggest part of the issue. Why is their opinion being made into law? If they don't like gay marriage- Don't have one!

All laws start from someone's opinion.
Obviously in CA there were enough people to sign a petition to get the issue on the ballot, then a majority voted.
 
All laws start from someone's opinion.
Obviously in CA there were enough people to sign a petition to get the issue on the ballot, then a majority voted.

Yes, I do understand that. But when their opinion turns into a law that infringes upon my rights, that is wrong.
 
As stated before, all laws start from opinion. I have a right to go 80 mph on the highway, the law says no. My rights are infringed too, but I have to live by the law.
 
Sounds like drug users complaining their rights are being violated by the laws...

Don't like it??? Move to a country that has laws that fit your lifestyle..

And in a list of Top Ten wack jobs, Olbermann is right near the top, that guy is a goof ball..
 
As stated before, all laws start from opinion. I have a right to go 80 mph on the highway, the law says no. My rights are infringed too, but I have to live by the law.


That makes no sense. In your example, your rights are "infringed upon" but so is EVERYONE else's. The law is the law for EVERYONE.

Would you think it was not big deal if they created a law that said 'Everyone but those that go by the screen name KYDISNEYFANS can go 80 mph on the highway'?

These laws infringed upon the rights on SOME PEOPLE. They say that SOME PEOPLE do not have the same rights as OTHER PEOPLE. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE.
 
Sounds like drug users complaining their rights are being violated by the laws...

Don't like it??? Move to a country that has laws that fit your lifestyle..

And in a list of Top Ten wack jobs, Olbermann is right near the top, that guy is a goof ball..

You are comparing gay rights to drug users?

Taking away someone rights by simple majority is ludicrous. By that reasoning we could just vote out the republican party. Make it illegal. Why not, most of us are democrats.
 
[QUOTE="Got Disney";28653921]unfortunately the people that don't get it are not going to...no matter what he says....many are attached to the church and even those that are not and are not against Gay people per-say feel that marriage is to be between a man and a woman only....

They are also entitled to there opinions....weather we agree with them or not.[/QUOTE]


And at one time, some people (who created laws) said that marriage is only between people of the same "races". They are entitled to their opinion and they don't have to marry people of a different "race" or of the same "sex". But it should not give them the right to take away the rights of some other people.

As much as people want to talk about people's opinion and the majority rules, people (even if it is a "majority") should not have the right to make laws that apply to some people and not to other people.
 
That makes no sense. In your example, your rights are "infringed upon" but so is EVERYONE else's. The law is the law for EVERYONE.

Would you think it was not big deal if they created a law that said 'Everyone but those that go by the screen name KYDISNEYFANS can go 80 mph on the highway'?

These laws infringed upon the rights on SOME PEOPLE. They say that SOME PEOPLE do not have the same rights as OTHER PEOPLE. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

No, the law states that NOBODY is allowed to have a same sex marriage, not sure what law you are reading..
 
I saw that rant last night and found it to be dumb.

Now I do understand the feeling behind it however looking at the Hispanic voting population numbers, it should not have shocked Olbermann or the people of CA at the result.

It is a numbers game. Gay marriage will be limited to the east coast as far as gays gaining rights at this time in history. If they can eek it out.

Eventually gay people will get their rights, I do believe that. It just won't be until the religion is purged from politics, which I don't foresee anytime soon.
 













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