Kate Gosselin

[Toad_Passenger]

There are so many reports of her diva-ness that it's hard to ignore. Are all of these reports wrong? I'm sure some are exagerrated but still, she seems to have a less than warm and fuzzy reputation.

Respectfully snipped.

This reminds me of a "behind the scenes" type show that looked at the world of reality shows. People like Jerri Manthey (from Survivor) were upset that they were given a "villian" type edit on their respective shows.

The basic response from the producers was that it is IMPOSSIBLE to give someone an "villian" edit if they are always nice. In other words, Kate was never asked to "act" controlling, she is that way and the cameras didn't lie. I think of the whole "water bottle" incident. It wasn't staged, or scripted. It was HER personality that came shining through in the instant she declined to give water to a thirsty child, while drinking from the bottle herself 2 seconds later.

So, I don't believe Kate's cried of being a victim. If she were a super-nice, ultra-great mother, than the gossip shows and the cameras would never have those bad moments on tape.

 

[dislaney]

I think they deserved each other! I am getting tired of hearing about both of them.

 

[solotraveler]

I always sympathized with him when they were together, because I think he was emotionally abused by Kate for a long time. There were so many times she beat him down, that he didn't even want to talk anymore in their private interviews (not that I think she'd let him get a word in anyway!).

I remember when they were building a new room for the twins and she told him it had to be done by a certain time. So he spent hours upon hours working up in the room, and he told her not to let the kids go up. Of course the kids came up and tracked drywall dust through the house. Ultimately this was Jon's fault. She then asked him why he wasn't down there making sure the kids weren't playing upstairs! Okay so he was supposed to get the room finished, guard the doorway, and be downstairs helping her at the same time! Of course she didn't really need help anyway, given the number of nannies and helpers she already had.

Unfortunately for Jon, his choice of an avenue to "act out" was completely immature and uncalled for, so I lost a lot of respect for him because of that. Lately, though, I've seen that he's dropped out of view (as much as TMZ & the gossip rags will let him), yet she seems to still try and usurp as much TV time as she possibly can. Meanwhile, the kids are still with nannies.

I completely agree.

I think if anything her actions on DWTS shows that she appears to be EXACTLY the person she was portrayed to be on her show.

 

[MerMom60_94]

No I'm with you. I think Tony took an insult where there wasn't one. She was trying to ask for help and he got high and mighty throwing the "I'm a professional dance teacher and no one has questioned my teaching EVER" card. I though he was kinda babyish about the whole situation.

She isn't a dancer. She has NO experience and no rhythm so maybe, teaching methods DO need to be changed for her. I can't go into a class with people and start calling out dance terminology and expect students to know what to do. She wasn't going to get the actual technique. IMO he did need to show her what it was supposed to look like so she could at least fake it better.
I didn't really watch Jon & Kate + 8 but from what I've seen, I totally get why she treated Jon that way. Man-Child is totally appropriate. She'd be working hard with the kids and he'd waltz in and torpedo the entire thing. Truthfully, he reminds me of my 8 year old with his 2 year old sister. I'll just get her settled and eating and he'll bring up going outside or a bath and BAM, she'd done with her dinner and all gung ho to do what he mentioned. It's frustrating with 2 kids...imagine 8!

Let me preface by saying I have been in and out of watching DWTS this season, but I have caught bits and pieces. Beyond Kate's interactions with Jon and with Tony and whether they have been nice to her or fair to her, I am also reacting to how she has responded to criticism from the judges. All of the contestants get critiqued and some get hit harder than others. I, too, am not a dancer (as much as I wish I were). For goodness sake, I can't even handle the coordination it takes to do zumba. But, I know that about myself. When Kate gets constructive feedback she just has a puss on her face. She doesn't look like she is handling it gracefully. It's the "poor me, why is everyone picking on me AGAIN" look. Lots of dancers throughout the season have received harsh criticism. Most of them manage to put on a smile and work through it. Kate just doesn't seem to receive it for what it is.

As for Jon, I haven't said my opinion about him because this thread is about Kate and the OP asked about our opinions of Kate. If somebody wants to start a Jon thread though, I promise not to be any nicer about him - the big weenie!

 

[stashbin]

This is what I think....

Kate is a perfectionist, so it's understandable that she would be frustrated when she couldn't get the steps.

Jon is a DB.

IMO there is NOTHING wrong with Kate earning money for her kids. Lots of actors and actresses spend blocks of time away from their kids to make the money.

She & those kids have become accustomed to a certain lifestyle, and I don't blame her for trying to keep it up! It's not their fault their dad is an out of work DB!
BTW...If Jon wouldn't have ticked off TLC, Kate would still be on the air with her kids by her side instead of having to moonlight on other programs.

 

[cheermom1]

I always sympathized with him when they were together, because I think he was emotionally abused by Kate for a long time. There were so many times she beat him down, that he didn't even want to talk anymore in their private interviews (not that I think she'd let him get a word in anyway!).

I remember when they were building a new room for the twins and she told him it had to be done by a certain time. So he spent hours upon hours working up in the room, and he told her not to let the kids go up. Of course the kids came up and tracked drywall dust through the house. Ultimately this was Jon's fault. She then asked him why he wasn't down there making sure the kids weren't playing upstairs! Okay so he was supposed to get the room finished, guard the doorway, and be downstairs helping her at the same time! Of course she didn't really need help anyway, given the number of nannies and helpers she already had.

Unfortunately for Jon, his choice of an avenue to "act out" was completely immature and uncalled for, so I lost a lot of respect for him because of that. Lately, though, I've seen that he's dropped out of view (as much as TMZ & the gossip rags will let him), yet she seems to still try and usurp as much TV time as she possibly can. Meanwhile, the kids are still with nannies.

This is how I feel. all I ever saw on their show was Kate whining about how tired she was while drinking coffee and sitting on her butt. I NEVER saw her doing much of anything other than shopping or the occasional cooking dinner! Along with berating Jon so much so that he felt he had to leave. doesn't excuse his behavior but still can see why it happened.

 

[tink1969]

I used to watch their show from when it began to air. I always thought Kate was so mean to Jon. She was always belittling him and he could never do anything right in her eyes. I don't blame him for wanting out of the marriage. He is obviously rebelling big time now!
They are both idiots if you ask me. I just feel sorry for all those kids!

 

[okeydokey]

This is what I think....

Kate is a perfectionist, so it's understandable that she would be frustrated when she couldn't get the steps.

Jon is a DB.

IMO there is NOTHING wrong with Kate earning money for her kids. Lots of actors and actresses spend blocks of time away from their kids to make the money.

She & those kids have become accustomed to a certain lifestyle, and I don't blame her for trying to keep it up! It's not their fault their dad is an out of work DB!
BTW...If Jon wouldn't have ticked off TLC, Kate would still be on the air with her kids by her side instead of having to moonlight on other programs.

I can guarantee you that giving up that life stlye is not hard on the kids but on their spoiled mother.

 

[stashbin]

I can guarantee you that giving up that life stlye is not hard on the kids but on their spoiled mother.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I know my own kids would freak out if we had to leave their home. I can imagine Kate's house cost a lot more than mine so it takes work to pay for it.

Plus, I don't care if she's spoiled or not. She opened her life up for years to get that money and house and to lose it all because her ex is a DB....it would all be in vain.

 

[airhead]

So with the way this nutjob has been acting on Dancing with the Stars, anyone starting to sympathize with her husband??

Nope. And I don't think there's anything nutty about her.

 

[Toad_Passenger]

We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I know my own kids would freak out if we had to leave their home. I can imagine Kate's house cost a lot more than mine so it takes work to pay for it.

Plus, I don't care if she's spoiled or not. She opened her life up for years to get that money and house and to lose it all because her ex is a DB....it would all be in vain.

Pretty much all of her homes, vacations, and other amenities have been given to her. Please don't equate her going on DWTS and other shows with what other Moms of 5, 6, 7, 8 kids do everyday...which is actual work! And, no, I don't count Kate's favorite occupation, sitting in her Adirondack chair sipping Starbucks, as work.

If those kids actually had 2 parents who gave a hoot about raising them, then there should be no issues about how big of a house they live in, if they're shopping at the Gap, or any other parts of their "lifestyle." Unfortunately their parents have switched the importance of love and material goods/fame in their lives.

 

[disykat]

I haven't been watching DWTS, so I've only seen some of the footage. I saw the part where Tony got mad at the interviewer and stomped off because they were saying Mary Hart said he was tough. Kate then tried to say tough was good and defend him, but he left. In what I saw, SHE was the professional one in that instance. Tony appears to be a bit difficult too and the combination is just bad!

I also keep seeing in the celebrity news that Jon has spent most of the time Kate is at DWTS with the kids - but the DIS keeps claiming differently.

I get why people don't love Kate, I just don't get why the DIS differs so strongly from what I'm reading/seeing.

One thing is clear from the footage I have seen - she is NOT a dancer! I kind of feel bad for her and some of the other people who are really not dancers. Obviously they have very different levels of talent coming on the show. Former skaters and people who have danced in their careers (boy bands, variety shows, etc.) have a huge advantage. There are also a lot of people with natural ability. The assumption seems to be that the experts can take someone with "two left feet" and make them a winner. I don't think that's true.

 

[stashbin]

Pretty much all of her homes, vacations, and other amenities have been given to her. Please don't equate her going on DWTS and other shows with what other Moms of 5, 6, 7, 8 kids do everyday...which is actual work! And, no, I don't count Kate's favorite occupation, sitting in her Adirondack chair sipping Starbucks, as work.

If those kids actually had 2 parents who gave a hoot about raising them, then there should be no issues about how big of a house they live in, if they're shopping at the Gap, or any other parts of their "lifestyle." Unfortunately their parents have switched the importance of love and material goods/fame in their lives.

1. Those homes and vacations were given to her because her JOB was to be the star of J&K+8.
2. Most people don't have 8 kids in which 6 are the same age.
3. Her "work" may not be what YOU consider work, but to her it is. Since Jon ruined her ability to continue with TLC, she has had to take up other means of "work". Again, most actors/actresses have to leave for blocks at a time. Even some "real" people have to leave to work out of town for blocks of time. Think about those folks who work on oil rigs etc.
4. Those kids have NEVER had 2 parents who consistantly cared for them so what she is doing now to continue what they already know is nothing new.

Kate is not my favorite person to be honest. But I do feel sorry for her at times and I do get tired of seeing her get bashed for doing what lots of other stars do! Leave her be for Pete's sake! It's not anyone else's job to raise those kids but hers and Jon's. If they screw it up, then that's on them.

 

[wdwfan16]

agreed. I felt bad for him since the first season of the show...she was always so horrible to him...can't believe the people of the US were stupid enough to vote her through to another week, cause look at her...she's horrible and she's already treating her partner horribly

That is why she was voted through. They want to see another one of her meltdowns and dead body dances.

 

[wdwfan16]

1. Those homes and vacations were given to her because her JOB was to be the star of J&K+8.
2. Most people don't have 8 kids in which 6 are the same age.
3. Her "work" may not be what YOU consider work, but to her it is. Since Jon ruined her ability to continue with TLC, she has had to take up other means of "work". Again, most actors/actresses have to leave for blocks at a time. Even some "real" people have to leave to work out of town for blocks of time. Think about those folks who work on oil rigs etc.
4. Those kids have NEVER had 2 parents who consistantly cared for them so what she is doing now to continue what they already know is nothing new.

Kate is not my favorite person to be honest. But I do feel sorry for her at times and I do get tired of seeing her get bashed for doing what lots of other stars do! Leave her be for Pete's sake! It's not anyone else's job to raise those kids but hers and Jon's. If they screw it up, then that's on them.

Her only claim to fame was giving birth to a litter. Octomom had 8 at once so she must be way better than Kate. And she has 6 others. So Octomom must win hands down.

 

[stashbin]

Her only claim to fame was giving birth to a litter. Octomom had 8 at once so she must be way better than Kate. And she has 6 others. So Octomom must win hands down.

Yeh, but Octomom PLANNED to do the same thing that Kate did by accident and it backfired in her face.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

So with the way this nutjob has been acting on Dancing with the Stars, anyone starting to sympathize with her husband??

Not even a tiny bit.

 

[sharlon]

One thing we have to remember is that we are only seeing clips that producers WANT us to see. We are not seeing the hours of practice time (or in the case of J&K+8, "family time") where everyone got along.
Now, as for Kate, I'm sure she is not the easiest person to get along with, but I wouldn't wish what she has been through since Jon's escapades on my worst enemy. He took a large amount of money from their bank accounts and pilfered it away very quickly, and she couldn't pay the mortgage or other bills. At the same time, he stopped her only form of income, the show on TLC.
She is trained as a nurse, but even she has admitted that there is no way she could go back to that, earn what she would need to support 8 kids, and have any time with her kids. With DWTS, she flies to L.A. on Sunday, does the show and flies back to her house on Tuesday night after taping. Tony goes with her and they practice in her basement, as mentioned previously. She is home during that time with those kids should they need anything. According to an interview I saw with Kate, Jon is staying with the kids when she is in L.A. and she encourages that. She said that she wants the kids to have time with their dad.

So, all of that said, I don't think she is the nicest person on Earth, but ultimately, right now, everything I've seen her do has been with her children's well-being as the number one priority. She has to support them, she has to feed them, she has to provide for them and DWTS allows her to do that, at least temporarily, with as little time away from home as possible.

Also, Kate is not an entertainer, like so many of the other celebrities. That entire world is new to her. It's not the same as having TLC follow her around. That alone can provide a whole lot more stress. And, as for her hair, I read that DWTS did the hair change with the two sets of extensions because they wanted to be able to style it differently with the different types of dances.

 

[SaraJayne]

We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I know my own kids would freak out if we had to leave their home. I can imagine Kate's house cost a lot more than mine so it takes work to pay for it.

Plus, I don't care if she's spoiled or not. She opened her life up for years to get that money and house and to lose it all because her ex is a DB....it would all be in vain.

She hasn't "worked" for anything ~ it's all been given to her by TLC.

 

[luvmy3]

We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I know my own kids would freak out if we had to leave their home. I can imagine Kate's house cost a lot more than mine so it takes work to pay for it.

Plus, I don't care if she's spoiled or not. She opened her life up for years to get that money and house and to lose it all because her ex is a DB....it would all be in vain.

She didn't open up her life, her and Jon exploited their kids for money, thats how they paid for that house, who cares if she has to go back and live like she did before she realized she could use her kids to get herself a big nice expensive house.