Kate Gosselin

[okeydokey]

I doubt that. It feels too good to all the haters. "Look how HORRIBLE she is" aka "Look how superior I am"

Edited to Add:

On second thought- you're right. I should have avoided this thread. I was however including myself in the "we keep having the same discussion" statement. Seriously, we are just rehashing the same things over and over.....

It's funny how someone can't criticize a reality star without being called a hater and accused of claiming to feel superior. I find Kate repulsive and selfish, but I certainly don't "hate" her. It's a free country, she can exploit her children for money if she wants to and it doesn't effect me in any way. But if she's going to put herself and her family in the public eye for some quick cash, she needs to accept all the comments that come with that.

 

[okeydokey]

What was Kate supposed to do? Terminate 4 or 5 of the sextuplets??? UH... I don't think so. I'm pro-choice (for the most part) but that goes with someone's choice to think termination is not an option, and I support that choice 100%.

If I had 6 kids coming on top of the 2 I have already then I would think $$$$ also in that how am I going to come up with all the money to support these kids. It's not as if she thought, or wanted, 8 kids. Having multiple multiples is extremely rare, even with help. They only thought they would have one more, not 6.

Kate's problem is that she expected right from the get go that someone else should support her children for her. She stated that since "society" enabled her to have this fertility procedure then society should be responsible for giving her support for her family.

 

[jiminyC_fan]

I am totally done with BOTH of them. I wish the media would move on.

 

[DMRick]

She stated that since "society" enabled her to have this fertility procedure then society should be responsible for giving her support for her family.

She did want the support to go longer than the time they allowed her. I think she lost that battle and has moved on. Now she is trying to support them in the manner they have gotten used to, and still be able to spend time with them.
For someone who is not an actress, can't dance or sing, isn't running for any office, she somehow has managed to get a lot more than her 15 minutes, and as long as we all keep talking about her and bringing her to the front pages of the web, read the mags, watch her even if we don't like her, she'll prob end up with even more time. For someone that isn't a real celebrity, she sure has turned into one, and because having her on a show brings in the audience, she is wanted on the shows.
I don't remember anyone else that wasn't some of the above, that has captured our attention. Sure, lots of people say they are over her, they want her gone, but as long as these same people buy the mags, read and respond to and about her, she is here to stay. Bad publicity is better than no publicity. She has had staying power, for no reason other than many people don't like her (and some do) LOL. We're talking about her, and as long as we are, she is here to stay! The media isn't about to move far from her, as long as she sells papers/mags/TV commercials.

 

[disykat]

Kate's problem is that she expected right from the get go that someone else should support her children for her. She stated that since "society" enabled her to have this fertility procedure then society should be responsible for giving her support for her family.

If I remember correctly, she made that comment when the extra nursing support was ending for her infants. I'm guessing there are a lot of parents out there who have wanted nursing support extended longer than it was provided by their insurance. I'll never understand why people can't be more forgiving about that. It's not like she sued, she just made a comment.

 

[Darsa]

Hmm, maybe she should make an album and run for office... Anyone can be made to sound goo nowadays with computers, and Sar... *ahem* other female "politicians" need someone to give her a run for her whiny-ness...

JMHO, of course. Never been a fan of either Gosselin

 

[wdwfan16]

What was Kate supposed to do? Terminate 4 or 5 of the sextuplets??? UH... I don't think so. I'm pro-choice (for the most part) but that goes with someone's choice to think termination is not an option, and I support that choice 100%.

If I had 6 kids coming on top of the 2 I have already then I would think $$$$ also in that how am I going to come up with all the money to support these kids. It's not as if she thought, or wanted, 8 kids. Having multiple multiples is extremely rare, even with help. They only thought they would have one more, not 6.

They had two the first time and that raised her chances of having a high order multiple tremendously.

She is an RN she knew the risk. Why couldn't two healthy girls been enough. They lived in a townhouse that could only house 4 people. Kate wanted more and she got them. Now she needs to work as an RN and support them.

Yes selective reduction should be used when you take drugs that can cause high order multiples.

 

[Mermaid02]

They had two the first time and that raised her chances of having a high order multiple tremendously.

She is an RN she knew the risk. Why couldn't two healthy girls been enough. They lived in a townhouse that could only house 4 people. Kate wanted more and she got them. Now she needs to work as an RN and support them.

Yes selective reduction should be used when you take drugs that can cause high order multiples.

That's your opinion- many people don't believe in abortion and it's not an option for them. I'm of the opinion that you need to care for the children you already have and if I were Kate, I would have stopped at the twins.

 

[daughtersrus]

If I remember correctly, she made that comment when the extra nursing support was ending for her infants. I'm guessing there are a lot of parents out there who have wanted nursing support extended longer than it was provided by their insurance. I'll never understand why people can't be more forgiving about that. It's not like she sued, she just made a comment.

Kate petitioned the State of Pennsylvania to have Medicaid continue to pay for nursing services for her children even after they were 1 year old.

To answer the OP's question.... No. I don't feel one bit sorry for John. He allowed himself to be treated in the manner Kate treated him.

I don't get the whole Kate bashing.

I have to wonder if you would feel the same way if it was reversed? If Jon was the one that treated Kate that way, most people would use the word "abuse".

 

[wdwfan16]

That's your opinion- many people don't believe in abortion and it's not an option for them. I'm of the opinion that you need to care for the children you already have and if I were Kate, I would have stopped at the twins.

You consider below to be taking care of her kids?

She would not have needed the care if she only had one or two more.

Kate petitioned the State of Pennsylvania to have Medicaid continue to pay for nursing services for her children even after they were 1 year old.

She chose to take the risk but did not want to pay after. The state did not make her take the drug but she wanted them to pay.

 

[Mermaid02]

Kate petitioned the State of Pennsylvania to have Medicaid continue to pay for nursing services for her children even after they were 1 year old.

And when she was turned down did she sue the state?

 

[Mermaid02]

You consider below to be taking care of her kids?

She would not have needed the care if she only had one or two more.




She chose to take the risk but did not want to pay after. The state did not make her take the drug but she wanted them to pay.

She asked and was turned down- end of story. And there are women who have baby after baby after baby who live 100% off the state- how do you feel about them? Nobody makes them have sex and have more kids- but they live off the working people of the state.

 

[daughtersrus]

And when she was turned down did she sue the state?

Not that I'm aware of. What difference does it make? Maybe she was already told that she didn't have a case?

She wanted the state to treat her situation as a special exception.

She asked and was turned down- end of story. And there are women who have baby after baby after baby who live 100% off the state- how do you feel about them? Nobody makes them have sex and have more kids- but they live off the working people of the state.

They were still getting Medicaid, just not the nursing services since it wasn't medically necessary.

Here's an interesting article.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_334106.html

Here's an excerpt.

"I might be able to meet their physical needs, but not the emotional needs. It is very difficult. I'm talking about time to talk about feelings, read books and the absolute bare necessities to get done. I cannot do it five days a week."

What 1yo talks about their feelings with their mom?

 

[DMRick]

But if Kate had had a crystal ball, would she have taken the fertility drugs? "If I could have looked into the future, I would not have done it," she admitted.
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I figured she was prob overwhelmed and scared at the prospect of being responsible for 6 little lives, once she realized the nurse was done, and they were now a year. She asked, they said no, life went on. It was five years ago. She's taking care of them now, not the government. Nothing lost for the asking (except to have people still talking about the nerve of her 5 years later, for being afraid to take care of her 6 babies (and 2 toddlers) without the nurse..they said no. That story is over.
Which of the 6 should she have reduced, so she wasn't a burden on the state that paid for a nurse for a year?

 

[Grandmouse]

I don't feel sorry for Jon one bit.

 

[mousey]

After being blessed with twins with the help of fertility drugs, Jon & Kate seek out a different fertility dr. than the one who helped with the twins and apparently didn't read the risks that you could have multiples so the state of Pennsylvania should take care of this family for life?? Didn't Jon get fired from a job because he was spending too much time on the internet trying to get some network to follow their lives with lots of kids and pay them?? Jon & Kate made the decisions that are affecting their lives today.

 

[DMRick]

They did make the decision to have at least one more child. She did have a higher chance to have more than one child. Jon was reported for being fired because he was spending time on the computer trying to find sponsors to give him free items during work hours (although he allegedly lied and said he left because they wouldn't continue the kids insurance). I don't believe they were asking the state to take care of them for life. That was all 5-6 years ago.

Other families with multiples such as the Dilley's had to count on help with the medical bills. That mom did go to work part time as a nurse and the dad stayed home, so I'm sure the money from their specials and books came in handy. TLC and other TV stations didn't seem as interested in these reality shows when their kids were born, and I thought someone had posted that Kate really pushed it with pictures and reasons why their show (as a regular show) about their family would work and that had a large part of why they ended up with a reality show, and not some of the others. I have no idea how life would have turned out for them (Dilley's), if they had been offered the same choices as K & J. I'm sure seeing the mess J & K turned out to be, they are now thanking their lucky stars they didn't have the same opportunities.

After being blessed with twins with the help of fertility drugs, Jon & Kate seek out a different fertility dr. than the one who helped with the twins and apparently didn't read the risks that you could have multiples so the state of Pennsylvania should take care of this family for life?? Didn't Jon get fired from a job because he was spending too much time on the internet trying to get some network to follow their lives with lots of kids and pay them?? Jon & Kate made the decisions that are affecting their lives today.

 

[wdwfan16]

She asked and was turned down- end of story. And there are women who have baby after baby after baby who live 100% off the state- how do you feel about them? Nobody makes them have sex and have more kids- but they live off the working people of the state.

That is a different subject so I did not go there but since you did - I have the same opinion of them s I do of Kate.

 

[mousey]

I agree that these women who keep having babies and have no support but the state is ridiculous. You almost wish they would have mandatory birth control to stop these women from reproducing.

I put the Gosselins in the same boat as someone who won a big lottery and spent it all and now have no money to pay the bills. Its pretty sad that the only show that accepted Kate is one that you actually have to perform and learn new things even though you don't have one bit of experience. The jokes about her lack of dancing skills and photos must be very hurtful for her. The network only cares about drawing viewers and they don't care who they make a fool out of to do it.

 

[AustinTink]

The woman is a shrew.

Perfectly stated.