Just my observation....

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We don't either but surprisingly on our last cruise on the Dream a couple of weeks ago we got seated with the best 2 couples as table mates. We're actually looking to cruise with them again hopefully. It came at a time when we needed some friends so it was a great surprise and really made our cruise even better.

Thanks for your thoughts on Celebrity. I'm definitely going to look into some of theirs since they got high marks!

I think it's the solstice class ships (whatever the Reflection and sister ship are) are just gorgeous and have a very refined feel. Also my favorite solarium of any ship I've sailed to date.

The green space on the top deck is quite unique as well.
 
I certainly hope you reported this to the ship's pest control officer either directly or through guest services and that they followed up with you.

While I'm sure all cruise ships have had an unwanted vermin or two (rats and ships have a long history). All cruise ships have fairly extensive pest control operations and procedures they have to follow.

I certainly think that your experience is not the norm. I can also guarantee that Disney ships are no more immune to pests than any other line.

While everybody has their favorites and opinions, I can't help but laugh as sometimes these boards make it seem as though every other cruise ship out there is a floating tetanus infection just minutes away from simply disintegrating into the ocean with every passenger wishing they were on the Disney ship.
I reported it several times, and they were unhelpful.
 
A year or so ago, we were on the Fantasy in Cozumel and there was an older "Funship" ship next to us. They had a couple of workers with blow torches lit up working on the satellite dish. Ah yes, flames shooting out of the blow torches and everything.
The good news is that I think it was for the TV systems and NOT the GPS. lol
 

When we were on the Dream a couple of weeks ago, they took the lifeboats off in Nassau and Castaway and were driving them around to test them. They certainly are in way better shape then the ones we saw on the ships beside us lol

It is my understanding that all ships from all lines test their lifeboats weekly, in the water, and while DCL may test in Nassau and Castaway Cay, there could easily be loyalists to Carnival, RCCL, or other lines thinking "When we were in port in XYZ, I couldn't help but notice that our ship was dutifully checking out the lifeboats in the water but that DCL line was keeping theirs on the ship. I'm glad I cruise ABC line, because they are so much safer..."

There may be some cut-rate lines out there that don't train as thoroughly, but I highly doubt that RCCL and the other mass-market lines (of which DCL is one) are ducking out on mandatory training.


Ever notice passengers on other ships parked adjacent to your DCL ship just staring at it?

We were on the Dream this week nestled between Carnival and the Magic.... all those Carnival cruisers were just standing at the rails wishing they booked DCL. We said the same thing about the condition of the exterior and wondered what the interior was like... could not imagine it was much better.

Likewise, I can imagine a parallel thread started by cruisers from those ships smugly saying "Did you ever notice in port how all the people from DCL stand on their verandahs staring at us, thinking about how they overpaid for their cruises and are stuck with overly cloying service?..." It's the definition of solipsism and it afflicts people from every walk of life.

Perspective is a funny thing. People look at the other adjacent ships in port, both because it is what one can see when in port and because it's a natural curiosity. That is evidenced by the fact that people on this thread notice other people staring at their ships, which implies they must be looking at the ships that contain the people looking back at them. I'm sure some of those people wish they were on DCL, but I suspect most are not thinking that at all but are just staring into space and enjoying their vacation.

Personally, I think the DCL ships look very nice from the outside, but I find them fairly boring and lacking in some of the more advanced amenities on the inside. I cannot look at the outside of my ship when I'm sailing on it, so I don't find their design particularly compelling as a reason to sail. We have sailed with them several times because we enjoy Disney, and I'm sure we will sail with them again, but after several cruises over the past two years we have come to find their itineraries exceptionally boring, their theater shows repetitive and boring after multiple viewings, and their service cloyingly over the top, so we are looking forward to trying a new line over spring break in a few weeks. We're spending the same amount as we would have on the cruise we'd booked and canceled for the same time on DCL, so it was not a budgetary decision, but we are getting a more interesting itinerary, more amenities on the ship, and a better room, AND we get to try something new, which is exciting for our family.
 
I reported it several times, and they were unhelpful.

Not sure how long ago this was, but I'd suggest you post over on the cruise board (not sure if I can mention the actual name). They have a lot of people that post there regularly that are familiar forwards and backwards with the maritime law for cruise ships.

They (and others) will definitely be able to provide you with who to contact to report it to higher authorities both inside CCL and out.

If they are not following proper protocol and/or ignored the report and a situation (like I said I'm sure ALL ships have them at some point) goes unchecked, it's a huge health and safety concern for both the ship and the ports.
 
Every Carnival ship I've seen in any port looks like it was slapped together by a beginning welder's class and maintained by the D-average graduates of the Tennessee School for the Incredibly Inefficient and Unobservant. They're usually visibly rusty, their hull panels look like the ship is quilted and the whole boat looks like it would have that old, unrenovated motel smell. Like disinfectant, stale cigarettes, cheap laundry detergent and moldy air conditioner.


This made me laugh out loud. This is exactly what I think when I see some of the other ships. Maybe they are nice inside? But the outside presentation doesn't make me want to risk it.
 
A year or so ago, we were on the Fantasy in Cozumel and there was an older "Funship" ship next to us. They had a couple of workers with blow torches lit up working on the satellite dish. Ah yes, flames shooting out of the blow torches and everything.
The good news is that I think it was for the TV systems and NOT the GPS. lol
So when DCL maintanence workers are busy in port fixing things it's a good thing, and when other lines are making repairs in port it's something to be laughed at?
 
It is my understanding that all ships from all lines test their lifeboats weekly

There's also those that do "just enough" to get by and those that go above and beyond what's "required". ;-)

It's funny though, even the 2 couples we had as table mates at dinner after Nassau had the same observation as others on this thread about the shape of the other ships in port (and this was both of their first Disney Cruises).

At the end of the day a first impression is everything and for many of us the first impression we get of the other lines is when we see them in Nassau (or another port).

I can't say that I won't ever try another line but I will definitely do my research before I do. The results speak for themselves:http://www.cruisecritic.com/memberreviews/cruiserschoice_index.cfm?Category=Overall&sort=large

To each his own. For right now I'm very pleased with both DCL cruises I've had and thoroughly enjoy every minute and every experience on board. I'm sure one day I'll try another line but for now I'm pleased as punch.pirate:
 
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There's also those that do "just enough" to get by and those that go above and beyond what's "required". ;-)

It's funny though, even the 2 couples we had as table mates at dinner after Nassau had the same observation as others on this thread about the shape of the other ships in port (and this was both of their first Disney Cruises).

At the end of the day a first impression is everything and for many of us the first impression we get of the other lines is when we see them in Nassau (or another port).

I can't say that I won't ever try another line but I will definitely do my research before I do. The results speak for themselves:http://www.cruisecritic.com/memberreviews/cruiserschoice_index.cfm?Category=Overall&sort=large

To each his own. For right now I'm very pleased with both DCL cruises I've had and thoroughly enjoy every minute and every experience on board. I'm sure one day I'll try another line but for now I'm pleased as punch.pirate:

Like I said, we enjoy DCL and I'm sure we will sail on them again. We'd particularly consider it if they expand their fleet, change up their shows, and add new itineraries (the seeming lack of their intention or motivation to do any of the three indicates their emphasis on first-time/one-time cruisers and brand loyalists, both of which are valid market segments but are not two into which my family and I fall).

At the same time, I am very cognizant of false consensus bias and selection bias, particularly as they manifest themselves on this board and others like it. This thread is nicely emblematic of those cognitive biases, at least in my opinion. For example, how does one differentiate between "just enough" and "above and beyond," except to assume that DCL does the latter and the others do the former? Is there empirical evidence of that line and which corporations are on either side of it? By the cruise critic rankings, should we assume Disney Magic is not good, because it did not make the top 10 while its sisters did in their respective categories?

Just my useless musings as I get the day started...DCL is great, other cruise lines are also great, and the whole world goes round with happy people enjoying happy lives...
 
For example, how does one differentiate between "just enough" and "above and beyond,"

That was a general statement about most things in general ;-) You can find the same thing with employees at any business, even Disney. There are those that do enough just to get by and those that go out of their way to give you a great experience. The ones that wow us keep us coming back and the places that don't is hit or miss.

Just my useless musings as I get the day started
Enjoy your day! It's a beautiful one here in NW Florida.
 
My last Princess cruise, the railing on our balcony gave us all splinters. 2 separate rooms, 4 adults. We also noticed that the ship was not as clean nor maintained as well. But others have had different experiences.
 
My last Princess cruise, the railing on our balcony gave us all splinters. 2 separate rooms, 4 adults. We also noticed that the ship was not as clean nor maintained as well. But others have had different experiences.

I've gotten railing varnish chips under my nails on the Disney ships on a couple of occasions. It's like getting a big splinter under your nails. It wasn't very nice.
 
on my daily walk about deck 4, I notice the maintenance team working hard to keep the ships looking good. One that stands out is the guy touching up the small white dividers on the plexiglass wall. He taped off the plexi, and then applied a fresh coat of paint using a tiny quarter inch brush. He did it alllll along deck 4. It's the little things like that that keep it fresh.
 
on my daily walk about deck 4, I notice the maintenance team working hard to keep the ships looking good. One that stands out is the guy touching up the small white dividers on the plexiglass wall. He taped off the plexi, and then applied a fresh coat of paint using a tiny quarter inch brush. He did it alllll along deck 4. It's the little things like that that keep it fresh.
It also keeps the metal underneath from rusting. Keep the rust away and the ship will be safer to sail.
 
Likewise, I can imagine a parallel thread started by cruisers from those ships smugly saying "Did you ever notice in port how all the people from DCL stand on their verandahs staring at us, thinking about how they overpaid for their cruises and are stuck with overly cloying service?..." It's the definition of solipsism and it afflicts people from every walk of life.

I was going to say the same thing. We were on Jewel of the Seas and the Magic was parked behind us in San Juan in 2014. We were in the 2-bedroom suite (concierge) and I kept looking at the Magic and thinking "we paid so much less than you guys to sail the same itinerary". We knew exactly what that difference was because we started out booked on the Magic and then jumped ship when we could get the 2-bedroom suite for over $1000 LESS than our standard balcony room on the Magic.
 
So when DCL maintanence workers are busy in port fixing things it's a good thing, and when other lines are making repairs in port it's something to be laughed at?

I have never in all the DCL cruises I have been on, watched any crew member on the top deck where the satellites and in full view of customers hanging out at the pool, with a blowtorch fusing or welding together anything.
I have seen them wash down decks 11 and 12 at around midnight though. And I have seen them right outside our verandah before we set sail on embarkation day. I have even seen them hanging off the back by Dumbo pressure washing. But not ever a blowtorch to attach something to a satellite dish.
 
I have never in all the DCL cruises I have been on, watched any crew member on the top deck where the satellites and in full view of customers hanging out at the pool, with a blowtorch fusing or welding together anything.
I have seen them wash down decks 11 and 12 at around midnight though. And I have seen them right outside our verandah before we set sail on embarkation day. I have even seen them hanging off the back by Dumbo pressure washing. But not ever a blowtorch to attach something to a satellite dish.
Ok, but considering ships are in use pretty much 24/7, chances are stuff has to be fixed when guests are on board. For the safety of crew members I'd rather suffer through the horror of seeing someone fix a satellite in broad daylight than them risk their life trying to do it at midnight while at full speed in the middle of the Caribbean.
 
We were on the Dream this week nestled between Carnival and the Magic.... all those Carnival cruisers were just standing at the rails wishing they booked DCL.

Actually, they were thinking, "I am so thankful I'm not stuck with all those unruly hoards of kids and uppity parents who dote on their 'special little snowflakes'! I'm so happy I'm on my fun ship! Let's go on the waterslide and then enjoy a Guy Fieri Burger."
 
Actually, they were thinking, "I am so thankful I'm not stuck with all those unruly hoards of kids and uppity parents who dote on their 'special little snowflakes'! I'm so happy I'm on my fun ship! Let's go on the waterslide and then enjoy a Guy Fieri Burger."

Oh man! Thanks for reminding me how pathetic the Disney hamburgers are.
 

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